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January 05, 2009 09:03 PM UTC

Big Line Updated

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  • by: Colorado Pols

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  1. Why is Gardner ranked so highly? Nobody knows who he is, outside of the de-populated rural counties. I think we have to see if his glib schtick works for him in Weld and Larimer before he can be seen as a viable candidate.  

        1. A couple of high-profile sessions playing to the base (privatized colleges anyone?) will make him a star in the population center of the district, Larimer County.

        1. but he’s still got the pulpit in ways Lucero, Lundberg, Brophy and others don’t. If Mark Hillman had compared a liberal judge to Dick Cheney, do you think anyone would’ve noticed?

          I’m not saying he’ll do well with it, just that he’s well positioned to shout a lot.

    1. but Coffman has been changing up every couple years for a while now. At some point, that becomes a campaign issue itself. And saying he’s the strongest Republican, while true, sidesteps the fact he hasn’t been tested in a real race against  a viable Democrat in a long time. Of course, he’ll be in roughly the same situation as Bennet in 2010, both running on a single session of Congress’ worth of votes.

    2. That pays well. He’s not going anywhere for awhile. He wouldn’t run for Senate because it’s too big of a risk for him – he’d have no office left to move to, and Coffman needs a job that pays well.

      1. I mean his wife makes six figures in the AG’s office.  How much income does it take to live in the ‘burbs these days? What, does he have a habit to support?  Dish it!

        1. That don’t pay much. We’re not saying he needs the money, but he finally has a good job that pays well, and he isn’t likely to lose his seat anytime soon. Our guess is that he stays where he is for awhile. Don’t forget, also, that he’s been a candidate for office for most of the last 4-6 years; he’s probably happy not to be running again soon.

            1. In response to the notion that a congressman took the job of representing you in Congress only because he really needed a well-paying job, one could have any number of less than positive reactions.  But you have found a positive one.  Kudos, I guess.

  2. He was such a bad candidate, which is too bad, because he’s a pretty good guy. I just don’t see how he can recover, unless he goes up against a weakling.

    And I don’t see weaklings on the Dems’ bench.

  3. I’d like to see Al White and Josh Penry on the Governor line.  I don’t think Al can win a primary, but his name has been floated quite often recently.  And we all know the Golden Child will be running for some higher office in 10′.  

    1. Penry has been the “rising star” for years. Everybody talks about him running for something higher every year. He never does. We’ll believe it when we see it.

  4. I would put Tancredo’s odds at about 25-1.  McInnis is a more viable candidate for the GOP nomination.

    If anything, I could see Tancredo making a third party bit that acts as a spoiler for the Republican candidate, leading both Tancredo and the Republican to defeat.

    1.  He has almost as much of a reputation as a hothead as Doug Bruce, and has never taken much interest in state issues.

    2.  He has alienated almost everyone potential GOP donor or big wig at some point.  This is the guy who proposed a tax increased that fell 90% on a business without his own district (a tax on reimittances that impacted First Data owner of Western Union among other money transfer companies).

    3.  Tancredo’s very weak support in his Presidential bid, even in Colorado, illustrates how far down the totem poll he is with Colorado Republicans.

    4.  By 2010, given reasonable forecasts in the economy, Colorado will be in its third year of falling number of undocumented immigrants who are returning to their countries of origin as jobs dry up.  And, there is a good chance that a federal immigration bill will have further shuffled the deck.  His signature issue, immigration, will be a cold, low priority issue by then with the general public.

    5. Tancredo doesn’t have many accomplishments to run upon.

    1. 1. Tancredo has GREAT name recognition, good or bad.

      2. Why would anyone see McInnis as viable for anything after how many times he’s passed on races? There’s lots of skeletons running around in that closet.

      1. McInnis might not be likely to join, and he might have some secrets ready to make problems for him when he does… but seriously, can he really have any secrets that compare to Tancredo’s desire to nuke Mecca, or his propensity for slipping off to participate in white-power meetings?  We’re talking about a guy who is not as well known as he could be, versus someone who is a complete joke on a national scale (literally… see Dave Barry).  Can there really be any comparison here?  If those are your choices, of course you pick McInnis.

        Now, I live in the Springs, and Tancredo would do great here, just as he would in his former congressional district.  But as for the rest of the state?  Well, let’s just say quite a few people might write in Bob Beauprez.

    2. Also, if anything I’d see Tancredo more likely to take a shot at Senate rather than Governor. He doesn’t want the responsibility of actually RUNNING something. He’s pretty much admitted that he likes just being a loudmouth.

        1. Good one, Libertad.

          There might be a legislative seat he could win, but the notion Frazier represents the great hope of the suburban GOP seems to rest entirely on his own whisper campaign. He couldn’t even beat Pam Bennett in the 7th CD portions of Aurora when he ran for council at-large, and that was as a well known incumbent.

  5. Keep in mind she beat MM by 10 points. The district has changed and she is a superb campaigner. Looking back on the campaign, they did so well they made it look easy.

    I think CD-4 is Betsy’s as long as she wants it.

    1. The RNCC was tired of Musgrave’s narrow victories year after year, and they only half-heartedly supported her in 2008. They’ll be hell-bent on getting this seat back in 2010 and in the hands of someone who won’t be so self-destructive.

      It’s not that Markey is weak so much that the GOP will throw everything and the kitchen sink at her.

  6. If the economy is clearly recovering then it will be another terrible year for Republicans. Because the campaign will be about don’t let the Republicans go screw it all up again.

    If the economy is still in the toilet, then all bets are off.

    1. If recent electoral history is any indicator, then if the economy isn’t recovering significantly, the Republicans will win back both houses. Thankfully, we still have 22 months.

  7. for the “magic” Rerpublican candidate for Governor. According to my source, there’s still one major candidate who hasn’t announced yet. I’d tell you all, but my source won’t tell me who it is.

    Maybe I need to get new sources…

  8. He has more name recognition than Tancredo, and unlike Tancredo, has a generally favorable reputation.

    He has shown increasingly keen interest in Republican politics.

    He has a clean slate record and lots of experience at speaking to the press and saying nothing while doing so.

    He looks much better in a photo shoot than John Suthers, and can run against government as a businessman.

    1. …you mean the auto dealerships that he ran with hands on?  or the restaurant for which he cooks regularly?  He runs businesses like the Broncos play defense.  In name only.

      Plus, better in a photo shoot?  Perhaps in dim, very indirect lighting.  Horseface sans botox ain’t suitable for framing.

    2. Stack Elway against any of the other “majors” – Tancredo, Suthers, etc. – and Elway wins in a landslide.

      I’m not saying he’s any good – it’s more a reflection on the other candidates’ badness.

  9. I know, I know, any challengers are 1,000 to 1 unless DeGette or Lamebrain get caught with the proverbial “dead girl or a live boy” – but don’t the districts at least deserve mentioning?

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