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November 07, 2008 10:09 PM UTC

An Examination of the GOP Bench; 2010 Gubernatorial

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  • by: Haners

We’ll be examing various aspects of the approaching 2010 statewide elections.  Please comment how you would like, but please only vote in the Polls for your Party.

The race for the Republican nomination for Governor appears to be under way.  At least three candidates have publicly expressed interest, and that field will probably get bigger.

Please examine each potential candidate.  If you feel I missed one, please say so.

And if you’re Republican, please vote as to who is your preferred candidate.

Potential 2010 GOP Candidates:  Governor

Bob Beauprez- The 2006 Republican nominee looked good on paper.  As a sitting Congressman for Colorado’s premier swing district, former State GOP chair, and banker he seemed to be the best candidate to retain Bill Owens seat.  One huge loss and four years later, is he the Republican Party’s comeback kid or Adlai Stevenson?

Marc Holtzman- The runner up for the Republican nomination has the “I told you so” factor to try, but he’s completely fallen off the radar since his loss.  Is he quietly plotting a comeback, or is he still sulking?

Tom Tancredo- The soon-to-be former Congressman from the 6th Congressional District has high name recognition and a national fundraising network.  But he also has high negatives and could be viewed as a one dimensional candidate.  And one issue candidates only get so far…(see Bruce, Douglas)

Josh Penry- The frequently touted rising star of the Republican Party is probably going to run for higher office at some point.  While his name recognition statewide is low, his new position as the Senate Minority Leader could help bump that up.  But his new position will be both time consuming and precarious-can he do his job and run for higher office without making a blunder?  Would he be better served to wait until Gov. Ritter is term-limited?

Tom Wiens-  Soon to be “former Senator” Wiens has the sole distinction of being the only candidate who has made a solid move to run for Governor by declining to seek a second term.  However, that distinction has been lost in Tancredo and Beauprez’s public positioning for a run.  Could Wiens be a dark horse candidate to keep an eye on?

Bentley Rayburn- Fresh off of his defeat in the CD-5 primary Rayburn has been rumored to be considering either a run for Governor or Senator.  The retired General has a strong resume, but the question remains as to whether he burnt or built bridges with statewide donors.

John Suthers- On paper, the Attorney General is probably the strongest statewide Republican candidate.  But Suthers hasn’t made a public move to run and seems content to remain Attorney General.  Could both Suthers and Penry be waiting until 2014?

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      1. He rejected playing in the worst environment to a slightly better environment. And then patiently endured year after year of Bronco mediocrity and playoff blowout losses until his patience was finally rewarded.

        I don’t have any reason to think Elway has many smarts, but he did go to Stanford – as opposed to Sarah Barracuda.

        The rest of the field is pretty darn weak!

  1. Wiens isn’t running.  I don’t know how to be more clear. I know he SAID he was running – but that was months ago, and before Tancredo decided to jump in.

    Bently intends to run for the US Senate.

    Penry is looking at Treasurer or Secretary of State.

    Beauprez will get NO support for a run.  He has his new book – and he can have fun with that.

    Suthers will go private and write detective novels.

  2. Holtzman was a Finance Chair for both Rudy Giuliani and then John McCain.  Perhaps to the general run-of-the-mill activist, he’s dropped from the radar. But he is certainly NOT sulking; personally raising more than $2mil over the last 18 months demonstrates that point.  

    1. I obviously struck a nerve!  🙂  That’s fine, Holtzman has to have his fans out there-but you missed the big point.  Re-read is section there, and you’ll realize that it was a question:

      Is he quietly plotting a comeback, or is he still sulking?

      So do you think he is quietly plotting his comeback?

      1. Just please be mindful – raising money has been (and is) difficult in this environment; it should never be considered as an “afterthought”. Simply because you haven’t seen someone at rallies doesn’t mean they aren’t working hard for our Party and its candidates.    

        That being said – of all these guys you list, only two can raise the necessary money to take down a popular incumbent.  

        1. Raising money is difficult, and will be something that has to be overcome if we’re going to take on Ritter.

          Having said that, being able to raise money for McCain may not necessarily translate into support.  It remains a large question in my mind is how do the big donors feel about Holtzman’s run in 2006 when some wanted him to run for Treasurer.  

          Maybe he’s mended fences in the last couple of years.

           

          1. I just can’t see the average Republican getting too excited about either of them.

            Maybe a little more so for Tancredo, until all those wonderful statements and appearances he made in the past come back to haunt him.

            Literally “singing Dixie” in front of a Confederate banner and a bunch of secessionists may have played a little better a couple of years ago in South Carolina. But things have changed.

  3. None of these choices are a clear favorite for me, can we get the Governator to move to Colorado???

    Bob Beauprez — Go away, you have done enough damage for one man in one lifetime

    Josh Penry  — Has some possibilities, but I would suspect that what he is really doing is positioning himself to become the president of the senate when it goes back to GOP control

    Tom Wiens   — Has been saying for years that he was going to run for governor, but always seems to back off in the face of any adversity.  Also, since he declined to re-run for senate due to the lobbyist fundraising rules, he has positioned himself to raise the cash, but at the same time risks losing the name recognition

    Bentley Rayburn — He’s a good man with an impressive military record, but you would think to become a viable candidate, he would want to start a little smaller.  2 congressional primary losses does not a governor make

    Tom Tancredo  — God loves him and so do I, though I just can’t see him being a viable statewide candidate

    John Suthers – No opinion really, neither bad nor good.

    Marc Holtzman  — Seems to continue to travel in the right circles, I am just not sure about how viable the head of the lollipop guild is as a gubernatorial candidate.  If nothing else, should he decide to run I hope he has a different campaign team.

    1. I’m surprised McInnis didn’t make the list. (He’s probably sulking about it right now.)  But I suspect Scooter is sans huevos insofar as any real contest is concerned but likes to keep his name out there as a measure of importance.  Also, I don’t believe he can use that federal money still in his war chest in a state race, can he?  

    1. (and that is a big if. We’re talking monumental odds stacked up against the idea.)

      But if he ran, I think I would vote for him. I have a deep respect for Senator Brown.

      And the problem with Wayne Allard running is that the only place he’s been for the last 20 years or so has been Washington D.C.–so he would have to run on (and defend) his record. 10 years in the senate, with 6 years in the House before that, gives a TON of ammo to 527 groups to hammer specific votes.

      He does have one huge card to play against Tank though; because he voted against the bailout twice, but Tank voted for it, that might sway primary voters.

  4. on the bench. He’s dying to play. Won’t you let him play? I realize he’s a two time loser but still…nothing wrong with playing the 3rd string every once in awhile, right?

          1. Gardner is the best the Rs have but face it, Markey will homestead this district until the 2012 gerry mander makes it safe for the Democrats. The power of constituent service and the frankling privilege makes most incumbents unbeatable unless, like MM, they alienate an important section of their base.  it took mucho millions over six years of attack ads by Strykker/Gill to weaken Marilyn to where the Obamistas could put Markey over the top.

            Who’s going to make a similar crusade to take out Markey?  She can sign a long-term lease on that condo in Georgetown.

            1. If Schaffer chooses to run for the seat he should still have, he will win, hands down. Markey won, at least in part, because many Republicans in the 4th CD just got tired of MM’s schtick. At the Palin Rally in Loveland, MM said, “Some are calling me the Sarah Palin of Colorado! … ” Huh? No one ever called MM the Sarah Palin of Colorado. MM won when she ran first because Schaffer took himself out of the game and bequeathed the seat to her. MM was never an entity unto herself, until 2008 – and in 2010 Markey won’t have the luxury of running against MM.  

                1. but if it leans pretty hard R and a better R comes along, Betsy might end up sipping Chai with Bernie and wondering what went wrong.  Pelosi better give her cover or those votes will come back to haunt her.  

            2. In case you forgot the Cook PVI for CD 4 is R+9, the only reason Marilyn lost was because she was a terrible candidate (and in my opinion always was).  Cory will destroy Markey in 2010, the pendulum will begin its swing in the other direction in 2010.

              1. It’s easy to rack up lots of yards when your opponent in in a prevent defense.  MM was embarrassing to many of us R’s.  Hard to defend, and not very likable.  I have to be honest, though, Markey’s ads were pretty nasty and put her in nearly the same boat as Musgrave in my eyes in terms of the ‘ick’ factor.

                Amazing how many things that happen in the world that are negative that can be used as ammo when you’re not the party in power.  Things will never be better for the Dems either Statewide or nationally than they are between now and January.

              2. My family has had a farm there for 121 years and I still own it.   Schaffer won’t win because Cory will get the nomination, but Markey by 4 points is a pretty safe prediction for 2010.    

                1. Simple answer, if shit doesn’t get better, i.e. standard of living (good luck, by the way, on that one), then people will look to something different.

                  How long will you run against Bush 2200?  Sooner or later voters will ask: “When will you stand on your own two feet?”

                  1. That is the most hypocritical thing a ‘pub could ask.

                    If you didn’t have Carter to run against in 1980 blah blah blah. And he blamed Carter for stuff well into his second term, even prompting the 39th President to come out and – you guessed it – tell Reagan to stand on his own two feet. You must have absorbed that into your subconscious back then.

                    BTW, even if it weren’t hypocritical, it is premature. After all, Bush is still president in case you didn’t know.

                    And keep in mind that rolling back all the damage done under his administration is going to be a monumental task, especially if the minority Senate ‘pubs play obstructionist. Under those circumstances complaining about the ‘pubs or Bush policies may be well justified.

                    So, are you going to be one of those worthless ‘pubs who is going to jump on every single little thing that goes wrong under Obama as an excuse to attack him? You know, the same kinds of things you gave Bush a pass for the first 6 or 7 years?

  5. Suthers won’t run.  He has a good relationship with Ritter.  This was one of the reasons the speculators never understood why Salazar didn’t run against Owens.  They have a good working relationship, which makes both better at their jobs.

    Troy Eid’s name should be thrown in to the ring.  I’m not the first to mention it.  As a Dem, he’s the guy who scares me most (accepting my Suthers logic holds-up).

    1. …and the alleged good working relationship was irrelevant to any of the analysis anyway.  It simply made no sense, from a practical perspective, for Salazar to challenge Owens in 2002.  

  6. As a Dem, I admit that Russell George ranks right up there as someone whom I fear could pose a credible threat to Ritter if Ritter doesn’t close some big deals. George may have been out of the political ranks for some time, but I’m sure he’s amassed a number of friends throughout his long political and policy career who would  quickly support his candidacy should he decide to throw his hat into the ring. Ritter appointed him executive director of CDOT in the spirit of bipartisanship and to reflect Western Slope concerns in his Cabinet. Between George’s tenure at CDOT and his 4 years at the Department of Natural Resources, he has a very in-depth understanding of two of the major issues confronting Coloradans: infrastructure needs (and shortfalls in transportation funding) and management of the environment (water, energy-environmentalist tentions, etc.). He served a number of years in the Legislature, including as Speaker of the House, and he hails from the Western Slope. Perhaps even more critical for a Republican Party that needs to reposition itself in the wake of the 2006 and 2008 election debacles, he’s no Dick Wadhams — by which I mean willing to accept the social conservative idealogues who have hijacked the state party. A moderate Republican can appeal to the disaffiliated Republicans who wonder when their party deserted them, as well as the fickle independent voters that constitute a hefty block of Colorado’s electorate. The elite campaign strategists on both sides of the aisle will study Obama’s brilliant field organizing efforts as a successful way to introduce a relatively unknown player to swing voters; the smart campaign strategists will figure out an economical way to duplicate that strategy on a much smaller budget. If that’s Colorado’s Republican Party, Russell George could be the unknown candidate whom Coloradans get to know during a long gubernatorial race that begins quietly in 2009 in living rooms and coffee shops across the state.

    1. Russ would be the candidate Democrats need to fear most…if he stood even one chance in Hades of getting any statewide nomination from the wingnuts that control Colorado’s GOP.  He’d have cleaned John Salazar’s clock in 2004 when the 3rd CD was open and given Ritter a real test in 2006.  A class act and one of the smartest, most principled players in Colorado politics.

  7. However, he probably has had a belly-full of partisan politics. A moderate, he was told to sit in the sidelines time and time again by his party. It had to be painful for him to see it self destruct with the conservatives at the helm.

    George is still a faithful party member, but he may be content to retire from politics to pad his pension working for the oil and gas industry, which is at his doorstep in Rifle.

  8. heck Hickenlooper could convert to the darkside just to run against Ritter. Cover could be provided by statements from Ewegen and the Denver Chamber that this action is not an official divisive move and thus subject to approval from the Left, Center and Right.

    Come on Ewegen whine … I mean opine it is your Party.

    1. but he still thinks like a pig!

      Come on, boy, cut and paste 5,000 copies of the right to work initiative or something equally stupid. You know you want to.  This trying to think on your own is hard work for a shill.

      1. The Hick comment was written to smoke your fat ass off the bench. “Mission Accomplished” 😉

        Here is the net: unless Ritter is sub 45 approval and susceptible to easy negative growth the GOP can’t flip the Mansion. He walks out of the Mansion in 2014 having accumulated $720,000 and a crap load of soon to be underfunded PERA benies.

        1. that no one, and I mean no one, takes your comments seriously when you pretend to know something about Colorado politics.  But I do accept your invitation to fuck your wife tonight! It’s time she met a real man instead of a weenie shill.

          1. Boy are you dumb. Your party has few players on the Bench, the Denver Chamber loves itself some Ritter and he has his Democrat business crew intact (Ikard, Isenberg, Hammil, Farber, etc…)

            The business community is divided and has been since Ref C, the Dems own the influential and all important non profits, this state is blue boy … doesn’t your RINO ass get that?

            1. You are straight right-wingnut Rush Limbaugh neo-fascist.  The business community just whipped your sorry ass and you’re still whining about it. I love it.

              Grovel, right-wing scum, grovel and hope we’ll take you back to the GOP.  

                1. and say that the honorable Ms. Lauren Bacall has returned to the fold.

                  Welcome back!

                  And yes, I’m glad that Libertad hasn’t gone anywhere – the verbal smackdowns have been most entertaining.

                  1. I’ll probably wax and wan again, but I had to come in and soak up the post election banter.  I can see now I missed some pretty funny rumbles.  Did most of your wishes come true this cycle?

                    1. All the candidates I voted for won (except the ‘pub running against DeGette – I had to throw LB a bone and vote for one GOPer…); most of the initiatives came out to my satisfaction except 58 and 59; A lot of out of state races went the way I wanted, except for Prop 8 in CA. So, not a blowout or a sweep, but a good night.

                      You missed some primo shilling in September. Allegedly the McCain campaign was giving away toasters and the like to bloggers to come onto blogs like Pols (which was specifically listed under “liberal” blogs, right there with DailyKos), so it was good fun taunting them. The “best” (I use that term loosely) was one Nancy L Baldwin who claimed to be a disgruntled Dem who thought Obama was sexist; but otherwise made very conservative points and thus belied ever have been a Dem.

                      But Libertad took the cake, always posting Yes on 47 junk, no matter the thread topic, no matter what a polster he was responding to was talking about. Bob obviously decided to let loose on him and the fun is still going on.

                      I hope you’ll wax more than you wane here…

                    2. but all in all it turned out to be a pretty good night.  I’m really bummed I didn’t get a toaster though.  Nobody ever offers to pay me to blog, and I’m the real deal, baby!

                      I want to hear all about the CoPols meeting.  Maybe Jason Bane will spy behind a potted plant.  (Is he still around?)

              1. How is the offshoring of US jobs going? Feeling the pinch with your tax breaks evaporating. That squeeze margins to the point they send you to Manila without an expatriate package.

                p.s. 54 passed, although you and Grueskin will be loading up the strategy to fight this in state court. Way to respect the peoples vote champ!

            2. All this public flirting between BobE and Libert_ _ just takes up electrons.

              Why don’t you two just number your standard taunts and shorten up your posts.

              Or, get a room and do whatever a shill and an editor normally do together in the darkness.

                    1. How’s that core principle working out for you?;-)  A lot better than “huge organ” I’d bet!

      1. that Sen. Ken Gordon doesn’t even have a page.

        My favorite disclaimer ever.

        This article or section contains weasel words, vague phrasing that often accompanies biased or unverifiable information. Such statements should be clarified or removed.

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