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(R) Greg Lopez
(R) Trisha Calvarese
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(D) Joe Biden*
(R) Donald Trump
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CO-01 (Denver)
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(D) Diana DeGette*
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CO-02 (Boulder-ish)
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CO-03 (West & Southern CO)
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(D) Adam Frisch
(R) Jeff Hurd
(R) Ron Hanks
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CO-04 (Northeast-ish Colorado)
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(R) Lauren Boebert
(R) Deborah Flora
(R) J. Sonnenberg
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CO-05 (Colorado Springs)
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(R) Dave Williams
(R) Jeff Crank
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CO-06 (Aurora)
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(D) Jason Crow*
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CO-07 (Jefferson County)
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(D) Brittany Pettersen
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CO-08 (Northern Colo.)
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(D) Yadira Caraveo
(R) Gabe Evans
(R) Janak Joshi
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35%↓
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November 05, 2008 07:35 PM UTC
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I became political in the 90s under Clinton, and attended a lot of protests against his policies (mostly the wars). It took George W. Bush to make me a loyal Democrat.
So yes, now that Democrats are in power we’ll probably bicker with each other. Some of us will tune out, at least for a while. The lefty blogs like Kos will most likely focus more on policy fights than elections now, which will bore some people.
I seem to remember you claiming a couple weeks ago that much of the recent mortgage crisis was the fault of Jimmy Carter, and I don’t think our side’s memories are going to be that short either.
Most things that have gone wrong actually were his fault.
🙂
We had a genuinely good man, a devoted Christian who was true to his faith, who was honest and open with the country, who treated everyone with respect, and thereby commanded respect around the world, who won a Nobel Prize for his tireless work in the Middle East peace progress…. and such a person could have been President of the United States.
I’m honored to have had Carter as a President. Can you honestly say you preferred Clinton, for example? (I’ll understand that your political allegiance forces you to claim a preference for all Republican presidents since.)
But he has his good traits, I’m sure.
He is though, in my view the worst ex-President this country has ever had.
He was ruthless in his run for GA Governor, was a terrible leader as President in the face of the Embassy takeover, and has turned markedly anti-semitic in the last few years. He and Stansfield Turner gutted our intelligence services, and led us down the road to where we are in the Middle East at this point, IMO.
Mostly though, it’s his post-Presidential meddling in places like DPRK and Venezuela that are a problem for me.
Obama appears to be ten times the leader Carter was.
Even if you disagree with him on Israel, there’s no way you can paint him as anti-Jewish.
One of the most critical parts of being a president is to lead the country. Carter did not have that skill at all – and that hurt – a lot. Being president is not a collection of policies, it’s getting the country to travel along on a path you paint.
He was also terrible at resolving the big problems he faced. He thought solutions were having a bunch of policies in place. He was all tactics and no strategy.
The subtext of your post is that the Dems are going to be on the defensive now that they’re in firm control; that they’re going to make major mistakes and missteps that are the equivalent of anything Bush has done. While that may well happen, there’s no good reason to assume it will.
Nonetheless, I will make this prediction: that the right-wing blogosphere will become a shrill and unpleasant place on par with the worst the left wingers have done the past 4+ years. You can already see that at redstate, where the impending loss has made the diary authors as bad as “Not a Queer Dude” or LIAS here.
And if, in the case your assumptions come true, I think you’ll be right. Again, look at the right wingers. They went through some amusing rationalizations in defense of Larry Craig, the selection of Sarah Palin, and countless other Republican mishaps and missteps. You can count on the same from many left wing sites because, if you see right and wrong through a political prism, that’s how you end up judging things.
I read a diary on RedState that wasn’t anything like that. Of course some of the commenters are just as idiotic as some of the freaks on Kos, but I think we know that the fringe isn’t owned by one party.
Link to diary. Check it out.
there’s also this.
Yeah, that’s rational.
I’m not going to bother digging up all their “Obama is a socialist” shit. They lost all their credibility with anyone who isn’t a dyed in the wool wingnut. At least they never played the “he’s a muslim who’ll take your guns away” card like others did (at least, that I know of). But they staked their claim as being of and for the hard-right perspective, and I predict that they’ll jump on every little setback and downplay every success unless it’s too huge to be ignored.
I think it’s fair to say that being vague at times was of benefit to President-Elect Obama.
about almost any recent 1st-term victory. What did W run on? “Compassionate conservatism.” What did McCain run on? “Obama is too liberal” – but not specific as to why, other than the Joe the Plumber junk.
“Junk” being the quote “Spread that wealth around”?
The Joe the Plumber thing is a real danger for PO (President Obama). He will get crucified if he tries to pick off his opponents in a similar fashion.
He went to a rope line in his neighborhood and asked a question. For that, his private records were accessed illegally four times.
For some reason, I don’t hear the ACLU screaming about it like they do about overseas calls from suspected terrorists being listened in on.
I was thinking of his “I’m Joe the Plumber” ads, not the incident. We’re talking about the campaign here, not what happened at meet and greets.
If you mean the punditry’s “He’s a socialist” canard, yes, that was junk. Baseless junk. Utter junk. If you think otherwise you would not have voted for Obama.
Keep on topic here – Obama did not have Joe the Plumber investigated, and even if he had a hand in it it wasn’t part of the campaign.
That that ads were stupid.
“Joe” was investigated by an Ohio State Government Employee who was a max Obama donor. He’s going to have to be very clear that politically, stuff like that isn’t appropriate or it’s going to get out of control.
and that’s fucked up, to be sure. Some people just can’t help abusing authority, I suppose. But my point was just that McCain was pretty vague overall too.
McCain & Obama in their debates were bashing each other over the specifics of their health plans, their tax plans, etc. A lot of the negative advertising was also over substantive items – Obama did say “share the wealth” and that is a clear difference between the two.
Yes they’re all vague whenever they can be. Remember McCain knew how to get Bin Laden – but wouldn’t tell us how. But there were tons of specifics in this race.
Or will it remain forever a secret?
If I knew where to find bin Laden, I think I’d tell someone.
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McCain already has a platform to get people to listen to him, so of course he could tell Obama his secret plan, and Obama would listen. If there really IS a secret plan.
But you, little tiny private citizen sxp, why would anyone elected to federal office listen to you ? Why would someone in charge of some federal program in an executive agency take the time to hear you out ?
Try meeting with your Senator or Congressman to tell them your plan to fix healthcare. Try explaining to a State Department official your plan for bringing modernity (and the writ of government) to the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan’s North West Frontier Province.
Until you try, you may continue to believe that those folks value your input and want to do the right thing. Once you try, perhaps you, too, will run for office.
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the far left bloggers will just start calling DINO. I used to watch this crap and report for a living. The less popular Bush became, the more “Democrat” he became. It won’t make sense, but it will be plenty fucking obnoxious.
BTW, case and point for crazy right disavowing Republican, The Outlander. Hilarious blog. He’s not a Republican, he’s a Conservative, blah, blah. He’s even pissed off Gecko.
I called out Udall for being a DINO at times. Granted, I shut up about it when it looked like the race might become competitive, but we’ll do it.
I think the blogosphere will continue to thrive for the left, and will stay the territory of the left, just as talk radio has stayed the territory of the right under both Clinton and Bush.
Here’s why in a nutshell – the blogosphere is a communication amoung many where all have a voice and discussions are won based on substantitive arguments. The left celebrates intellectual curiosity and the triumph of the better idea. The left loves to argue policy, in fact to argue anything.
On the right you have a large chunk that is anti-intellectual, a large chunk that believes in a clear order/system that rules, and many who don’t want to question their beliefs.
This is why talk radio works so well for conservatives and fials for liberals – it’s uni-directional top down listing of viewpoints that are repeated, not questioned.
This is why the blogosphere works so well for us liberals – we’re happy arguing over what the best approach is, how our reps should attack problems, etc.
Don’t worry, within a day of Rahm accepting as Chief of Staff there will be a giant argument in the left blogosphere over is he a wonderful or terrible pick.
Your opinion is much the same as mine on why liberals like blogs more than conservatives. Though, I think, it might partly be an age effect as well. Younger people tend to be more liberal due to goalposts moving as people age and some return to traditional values as people get older. So whatever is the new communication technology might always be liberal with someday blogs being for old foggeys who are against robot liberation (or something).
Actually an open invitation to everyone here, anytime you are up in Boulder – I’m in the phone book and my email is david@thielen.com. Always happy to share a beer or coffee or whatever.
thanks – dave
The mantra of that site is more and better Democrats. Because so many of the “democrats” in Congress (both houses) are oftentimes more of a detriment than an aid to the party and its legislative agenda, sites like Kos that exist to try and make the party better will continue to thrive. Huffingtonpost is more of a newspaper than anything else. It’s “bloggers” are basically more frequent columnists. Plus, Republicans will always be getting caught lying, stealing, and cheating, whether its in a Minneapolis bathroom, or in a Louisiana whore house. So, we’ll always have them to bat around, oh, and Lieberman, too.
Moderate and conservative Democrats are a “detriment?” Would you rather that conservative far-right Republicans held those seats? So as a minority party in the House Democrats could take the moral high ground on every issue – and lose? Or would you rather that a smaller number of important Democratic issues pass and the entirety of the far-right agenda fails? Count me in the latter group.