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October 11, 2008 05:23 AM UTC

McCain booed defending Obama to angry crowd

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  • by: Danny the Red (hair)

(What alcoholics refer to as a ‘moment of clarity’ – promoted by Colorado Pols)

Today I was thinking how disappointed I was in McCain.  How far my opinion of him had fallen and how dangerous the tone of his campaign was becoming.  Today I think McCain realized how ugly it was getting.

Fearing the raw and at times angry emotions of his supporters may damage his campaign, John McCain on Friday urged them to tone down their increasingly personal denunciations of Barack Obama, including one woman who said she had heard that the Democrat was “an Arab terrorist.”

Each time he tried to cool the crowd, he was rewarded with a round of boos.

“I have to tell you. Sen. Obama is a decent person and a person you don’t have to be scared of as president of the United States,” McCain told a supporter at a town hall meeting in Minnesota who said he was “scared” of the prospect of an Obama presidency and of who the Democrat would appoint to the Supreme Court.

“Come on, John!” one audience member yelled out as the Republicans crowd expressed their dismay at their nominee. Others yelled “liar,” and “terrorist.”

One woman, in the course of a question to McCain said, “I’ve heard that Sen. Obama is an Arab terrorist.”

McCain, who had shared his wireless microphone with her, yanked it out of her hand.

“No, ma’am,” the Arizona senator assured. “He’s a decent family man and citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that’s what this campaign’s all about. He’s not [an Arab terrorist].”

The public display of fear and unease over Obama comes at the end of a week in which other Republicans at McCain and Sarah Palin events expressed similar frustrations, a product of exasperation at the prospect of the Illinois senator becoming president and their own nominee not doing enough to prevent it.

http://www.politico.com/news/s…

Thanks John, thanks for reminding me why I supported you in 2000.

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79 thoughts on “McCain booed defending Obama to angry crowd”

    1. There have been some times where he’s let his campaign advisors run roughshod over what I still believe are his more rational sensibilities.

      But for this time, anyway, and for whatever reason, I’ll go with the crowd; this was a needed move on McCain’s part, and I thank him for having the decency to back away from the precipice towards which this conversation has been driving in the past week.

      1. Echoing Danny and PR, this is the reason I used to respect McCain and wish he had been the ‘pub candidate back in 2000. We’ll see if his new buddy Dobson will say anything like this…

        2. Here is John McCain finding himself unable to continue down a path he knows to be dishonorable and he gets booed by the base he has given up so much of himself for. So many moderates, independents and even Democrats who used to admire him have been turned off for the sake of this base.

          His own campaign has been relentless in whipping up fear, contempt and even hatred toward Obama and connecting him with a scary Muslim world and with terrorism. The base is totally invested in this view.   His running mate, wife and political operatives, too.  So now, McCain’s simple and admirable insistence that Obama be recognized as both a decent person and an American is so far off message he gets booed for it.

          Another case of McCain not a speaking for his own campaign?  He must be in a very lonely place right now. The monster has been created and is in no mood to be tamed. This can’t be the way John McCain envisioned his run for the White House.  

          1. I hope to hell that McCain can hose down the mob. But, he has created a scapegoat and when times get ugly, that is what the mob needs.  It is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. Only, that economic  crisis developed over many many years and the Jews were consistently targeted. We are looking at a real live example of classic political theory.  

            So, boys and girls, take notes. Hope to hell that McCain is still a real hero and who in the final analysis will put country first.  He needs to pull all the ayers ads. Let us see if he can.

      2. but will Palin follow McCain’s lead? Or is this just part of a bifurcated strategy on the part of the McCain campaign: McCain is the good cop, Palin is the bad cop.

        We ought to know within a few days…

        1. I don’t think this is evidence of honor. I think it’s just a strategy.

          McCain’s been a dumbass all through this campaign, making really nasty attacks on Obama and putting his name (“I approve this message”) all over them. The attacks were often so stupid that they failed completely to bring down Obama’s favorability, but they DID bring down McCain’s.

          He’s finally realized that attacks should only be made by campaign surrogates, not by the candidate at the top of the ticket. As you say, it’s a “good cop/bad cop” strategy.

          2. I am no McCain fan but believe he has become uncomfortable with this, that this isn’t the way he sees himself.  He doesn’t mind being seen as tough and likes to indulge his temper but is not happy about being seen as a fellow traveler with ignorant hate mongers

    2. Tom Daschell, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, moveon.org, mediamatters, et al have been vilifying Bush and the GOP and dividing the country for 8 years.

      Now you’re seeing the feedback, the giveback and the hatred that will come your way in a few weeks if Obama wins.

      I”m predicting you’ll see hatred and racism like we haven’t seen in decades. It will be open and scary, and the left will have brought it on itself.

      Michael Barone warns of “The Coming Obama Thugocracy.” I’ve been worrying about this for months, because Obama wants to shutup anyone who disagrees with him. h/t http://www.powerlineblog.com.

      http://townhall.com/columnists…

          1. of branding the Obama campaign (and presidency) “uppity” than AS’s viciously bigoted argument? AS not only ignorantly forgets the eight years prior to the Bush Administration, when Republicans made divisiveness a national pastime, he turns a blind eye to the race-baiting, fear mongering and hate-stoking campaign McCain has turned to. AS is a sad excuse for a human being.

                2. That’s an interesting concept.

                  People of African descent in America fought for years to be known as Negroes or settle for Colored.  Then, as that was attained, those words were shunned almost joining the use of Nigger.  At least the NAACP didn’t bend with the winds of correctness.

                  I’m still puzzled why the about face.  Up came the new hyphenated African-American as the correct, preferred label.

                  African-Americans, pre-Obama, were mostly individuals with all African lineage who happen to be living in America.  (I’m overlooking the interjection of Caucasion genes for this observation.)

                  Now we have Obama, who is indeed literally an African-American, one parent from each continent, but not one whose ancestors came to America as slaves.  

                  So is Obama a real African-American? Or not? Or our fellow Americans descended from slaves aren’t? Or are? Am I a German-Italian-American?

                  Or are we all Americans and damn the hyphens, full speed ahead?  

                  1. Naming rights belong to the individual or the group..not other people.  It is the American way.

                    Don’t forget for the longest time, it was whites who named the black, the nigger, the colored.  The heart of being an American is you get to define yourself; not anybody else.

                    I am an old fart. You seem more cynical in your recent posts, old friend.  I hope all is well.

                    1. for Obama, having an African born father and American born mother, African American is pretty accurate, don’t you think?  

                    2. I didn’t say anything about those “rights.”

                      My questions were multi-layered.  First, how did Negro and Colored, fought for so long as respected group names, very suddenly wind up in the trash heap?  Not just alternatives, but “Don’t you dare!”

                      Second, just linguistically, what is an African-American?  I remember some dolt of a “journalist” speaking about the people of some African nation.  She called them African-Americans!  

                      And you wonder why I’m cynical?  🙂

                    3. Are the people of Liberia African-American-Africans?

                      Trust me, this whole naming convention is best not belabored.

                      As a member of the LGBTTQQI community (that’s lesbian, gay, bisexual, transsexual, transgender, queer, questioning, and intersexed), I know how insane this can get.

                      20 years ago we had the GLCC (The Gay and Lesbian Community Center). Then the lesbians had a fit that they were listed second, so it became the LGCC. Then the bisexuals had a fit and it became the LGBCC. Then the transgenders had a fit and it became the GLBTCC. Then the suburban and rural people had a fit that it was too Denver-centric so they added “of Colorado” and it became GLBTCCC. Then we got sick of alphabet derangement syndrome and now it’s called “The Center.”

                    4. ….for its total lack of logic and consistenchy.

                      As dwyer points out below, then the descents of the Irish just call themselves that w/o hyphen.  

                      Frankly, I’m not much inclined to hypenated surnames, either. I feel all hypenated names represent indecision or unwillingness to commit!

                    5. We would have to ask an “African-American”

                      For what it is worth, one of the many colors in my house, says “I am Irish,” not “Irish-American.”  I have no idea why, except just to give the Irish a wide berth…:))

                    6. Every Black person has a different take.  I will be damned if I let anyone take America from me by hyphenating it.

                      I am an American.  This country was built on the backs of and with the blood of my family.  It is a source of pride and I am not hyphened.

                      I am simply an American who happens to be Black.

                    9. Most of them aren’t even from the Caucasus. (Yes, I know McCain thinks we’re all Georgians now, but that doesn’t count.)

                      Why can’t they just call themselves Salmon-Americans?

                      And what ever happened to the perfectly good slur “honkey”? It took forever to come up with a good name for them, and now they don’t want to use it anymore.

      2. I have no doubt there will be a firestorm of anger and hatred expressed against President Obama, the left, moveon.org, and all the rest.

        For more than a decade the Republican party, specifically the anti-intellectual thugs who celebrate that which Stephen Colbert parodies, have predicted doom and apocalypse to get out the votes. That unless every bit of government were strangled, if any bit of socialism were allowed, it would lead us inevitably to a totalitarian state. These predictions have reached a fever pitch against Obama with commentators predicting a socialist disaster should he be elected.  

        Added to this the undeniable racism of a few Americans and the wink and a nod disinformation campaign accusing Obama of not being American, hating America, being an Muslim, and so on there is the possibility of rioting and mob action.

        But to blame it on the left is like blaming the victim of a beating for being outspoken. It is the same old, “Unless you agree with me don’t express your opinion.”

        If speech is thuggery then the right has had a Thugocracy for more than a decade in all the loud mouthed pundents on AM radio, conservative columns, and cable infotainment channels. The whole conservative movement is exactly what Michael Barone describes and far less tolerant of dissent or contrary opinions than is the left.

        In short, you should take the plank from your own eye before you should attempt the draw forth the splinter from your neighbor’s eye.

      3. Last year (in March) a national news org. poll reported that 58% of respondents wished the Bush presidency were over.  Most of those, I’d wager had never HEARD of MoveOn.  Give us a break.  

        Recall that the American Conservative Union repudiated Bush a couple of years ago?  I wonder why?

        The ‘chronically inexperienced Mr. Bush’ has got to be the most witless, guileless President we’ve ever had.   How a President with all daddy’s friends ready to carry his water managed to let his VP outmanuever him in crafting a foreign policy…  it’s astonishing.   He fired Rumsfield only after he’d ignored the insurgency and formed no strategic response to it for… what 18 months?   Bush acts like he’s never really believed that he IS the President, in my view.  [Exept for the keen helicopter rides and giving unwelcome backrubs to the German Chancellor.]  He’s too unprepared to actually take responsibility… makes Gen Petraeus his “Iraq Surge and Savior Czar.”  Now he’s got Henry Paulson to be his “Credit Crisis Czar.”  Remember when Presidents actually took responsibility?  

        Talk to some Republican neighbors (there are plenty) and find out what a loathed character he is.  Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, MoveOn are bit players in the Bush Presidency.

      4. You have ignored how the right have vilified the left for 25+ years, ever since Newt Gingrich made the scene.

        Either you’re so biased that you block out anything that doesn’t fit you’re preconceived notions, or you’re just playing troll and making shit up for your own amusement.

        1. Republicans do a lot better for themselves when they’re in the minority. He’s looking forward to being an obstructionist again after 8 years of failed policies.

  3. Look at the ads here on ColoradoPols: they don’t even show McCain’s face anymore! They just show Palin: “A Proven Maverick.”

    Can you imagine the Democratic ads showing just Biden, and not Obama? This is just pathetic.

    McCain is being tooled by his own political consultants who are now actually working for Palin 2012.

    Palin is like Prime Minister Putin to McCain’s President Medvedev.

    Sad.

    1. If McCain/Palin doesn’t win now Palin will never be a player again.  She’ll be a rightie celebrity at best. They just hope that Palin and racism can still win the election, that’s all.

      2. Virtually everyone I talk to on the far right is presently planning on Palin 2012 and they think she’s the greatest thing ever. I think she is going to have the Republican base charged up that their problem was not their message, it was who they had leading the charge.

        So expect to continue to see the far right running the party for at least the next 4 years. On the flip side, this means we Dems will continue to win in the next 2 elections.

        2. in the GOP universe if McCain/Palin loses.   Nationally, she will be nothing more than a celebrity with the has-been wing of the GOP if they don’t win the White House.  She won’t have a serious political career left on the national scene any more than Pat Buchanan does.  

  4. swamp12:48PMOct 3rd 2008

    Barack Hussein Obama actively sought and received the stamp of approval of a Marxist third party that operated briefly in Chicago between 1992 and 1998.

    The New Party was a Marxist political coalition whose objective was to endorse and elect leftist public officials — most often Democrats. The New Party’s short-term objective was to move the Democratic Party leftward, thereby setting the stage for the eventual rise of new Marxist third party.

    Most New Party members hailed from the Democratic Socialists of America and the militant organization ACORN. The party’s Chicago chapter also included a large contingent from the Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and Communist Party USA members.

    swamp12:48PMOct 3rd 2008

    PLEASE HELP TO GET THIS OUT TO EVERY AMERICAN VOTER.

    This video may help make up your mind on who’s more to blame for the economic crisis. It’s excerpts from a late 2004 hearing to investigate Fannie and Freddie’s illegal bookkeeping.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…

    Don’t be afraid to check it out libs, watch your leaders in action.

      1. It is about caring I know to many people from the heart of the Middle East some of which are family.It has nothing to do with the man(Obama).It has to do with how the Middle East radicals  view him.I have lived through extremely hard times.I will be okay but I don’t want to see others who haven’t have to face it.The good Muslims are not the ones in control over there if they were Muslim would not be coming here.Talk to some real Muslims not what the media tells you.We are there Roman Empire.I am so sorry Americans are so divided and hard headed.

  5. But, he has been allowing and encourageing the toxicity for the last several months, hoping it would profit him. This is not an honorable man. I once thought highly of him, but I can’t anymore, even while respecting his military service and his sacrifice.

  6. He’s been using fear to stir up his crowds.  It’s been increasinly ugly, rabid responses.  Could be some of the facts of life have been sinking in to McCain, one who professes unbounded patriotism:  Seeding a time of crisis with enough right paranoia to retard the next president’s ability to manage its global foreign policy crises and defuse a credit crisis at home is… well… not much of a capstone to a public service career.  

  7. we don’t hate McCain. We may fundamentally disagree with him, but we respect and (at least somewhat) admire the man.

    When I read what Senator McCain told the crowd, I was happy. But I would have been happier if he was saying stuff like this BEFORE some of his supporters turned into bloodthirsty, raving lunatics.

    But it’s nice to know that McCain admits that Obama would make a fine president, and that Americans shouldn’t be afraid or angry by the prospect of having him in the Oval Office.

    1. …whether directly or indirectly.  Either way, he his ultimately responsible for encouraging the bloodthirty, raving lunatics.  The campaign has been throwing red meat at them like lion feeding time at the zoo.  

      So, while it is good that they are trying to get things under control, he doesn’t get a pass for being the one who turned up the heat on the racism and hate in the first place.

      1. People need a scapegoat, and right now for some folks on the far-right Obama is that scapegoat.

        It doesn’t matter what McCain says, or how nice he starts being, they will still think Obama is whatever myriad things they believe him to be.

        1. of the party ever supported McCain in the first place.  They have settled for him.

          His standing up for Obama as a decent and admirable person won’t change the trajectory of hate.  It will just make them hold their noses that much tighter to vote McCain, comforting themselves with the possibility that he might kick the bucket and give them their beloved harpy Sarah.  You won’t hear any nonsense about Obama being decent or admirable from HER.

            1. Any real demonization of Palin coming from the Obama campaign itself.

              They haven’t played the AIP card in response to the Ayers card.  Her associations with a party whose founder absolutely hated the USA, before managing to blow himself up, and which advocates allowing Alaskans to opt out of the USA are, if anything, less tenuous than Obama’s connections to  domestic terrorism through Ayers. But they haven’t gone there.

              They could be talking about HER very scary pastors and church speakers, including an actual witch hunter, but they haven’t, not even in retaliation for the smears coming from the McCain/Palin campaign and threats to bring up the whole Rev. Wright thing again.  

              There is simply no comparison on the fear mongering front between the two campaigns. Personally I AM scared of Palin.  Not crazy about the idea of an end-timer who thinks Armageddon would be peachy possibly becoming president and being in charge of Middle East policy.  But that’s just me. And I don’t speak for the Obama campaign.  

  8. Negative campaigning is one thing.  Being the catalyst for violence is quite another.  I have a hard time believing that any elected official would be OK with that.

    Maybe the Secret Service final said “chill”, the Palin / McCain camp may be responsible for an increase in credible threats on the Obama family.

    1. Why wasn’t this happening before? I didn’t read any stories about people getting inflamed and saying inflammatory things at campaign events until a few weeks ago at most.

      Is it solely because they’re trailing in the polls and it’s so close to the election? Is it because of Palin’s stump speeches where she says Obama “pals around” with terrorists?

      Or is there another explanation?

      1. and remember how well demonizing the opponent as other, not really American, not really loyal, has worked in the past.  With Obama having a foreign name from a Muslim  father and being mixed race they are most of the way there with their base from the get go. Hoping to get beyond the base as they have in the past.

        Issues haven’t worked for them.  GW was never elected on the basis of issues.  Goodbye issues, hello hate and fear, Rove’s dearest buddies. But is the country still in the mood for scorched earth politics? So far the polls say no. Maybe folks are tired of being scorched, looking for somthing a little more healing.  Fingers crossed.  

      2. He asked me why Michelle didn’t like America. I was really upset and responded to him harshly in a flurry of racial facts about this country and how easy it is for Black person to love their country, but realize we have a distance to go before we all can say we have leveled the playing field. I now realize how much emotion is playing in this election.

        This is not an election about issues.  Yeah, Yeah, some of us can intellectualize the differences with the candidates in terms of ideology.  But the only difference that is front and center is race.  

        We have danced around it, talked about it, polled it, done CNN Specials on it, and every one of you have had more personal conversations about race than you have any other issue in this election.

        And after all of that, the clear answer is race is still America’s greatest challenge.

        And, if for half a minute you think it is not, did you see the ballots that went out in NY County with Obama spelled Osama.

        Mistake? Oversight? Or done with clear intention? http://politicalticker.blogs.c…

        1. I have no idea. B and S are not that close on the keyboard. I want to believe it was a typo, but who knows.

          Even Matt Lauer once slipped and called Bin Laden “Obama” on the Today Show.

          Your point about race is very insightful Wanda. I have been thinking about it more this year than I ever have in my entire life. I think that America has largely ignored the issue for many years, but I am happy that it is in the discussion again because that is the only way we are ever going to make things better.

          I also don’t want people to think that if Obama gets elected that the problem has gone away. We still have people like the ones who are trying to get Amendment 46 passed (incidentally, I fear it will.)

        2. will be that FINALLY we can put this “race” issue behind us. When Obama is elected to the highest political office in the land, it will prove that there are no longer racial “barriers”, requiring affirmative action laws, to participation by members of “historically disadvantaged minority groups” in this country. At last, we will be able to set aside all the discriminatory laws and statutes mandating and/or granting racial preferences for awarding government jobs, contracts, grants, etc.

          No longer will people of color have to rely on 8a programs or other so-called “affirmative action” programs to succeed in America. For, by electing Obama in a free and open election from border to border, from coast to coast, across this land, the citizens of the United States of America will have proven that such laws and statutes are no longer needed. Finally, we will be able to set aside ALL laws granting special priveleges, benefits or advantages to one group of citizens, based on the color of their skin or their ethnic heritage, to the disadvantage of any other group.

          1. A single person can often overcome barriers that remain in place in society throughout and after their rise to prominence.

            An Obama presidency will certainly help, by beginning to break down the barriers of distrust that block minorities from a position of equality.  Of course, that could all be undone by the rabid but vocal musings of those who do not want him to succeed and are willing to insinuate that his race is part of his problems in the Oval Office.

          2. ..I admit, you had me going for a while there.  But then this particular brand of nonsense rang a bell…and…ding, ding, ding… here you are.  Keep up the insanity, girl!

  9. McCain is in Wisconsin pushing the same “Ayers” message onto the crowd. I’m sorry, but I can’t applaud a man who “approves this message”

    1. Brining up his relationship with Ayers is a legitimate political issue. I don’t think there’s anything there, but it’s legit.

      What is not is encouraging the comments about how Obama is a terrorist or hates America. And McCain does seem to be trying to stop those.

          1. These people are morons (there goes my vote for most civil). They play upon the ignorance and fear…..for power and profit. It’s despicable. In Buddhism it’s called the Hell Realm. In the Catholic church, it’s simply called lying, a menial sin, and worthy of purgatory.

            People like AS have no conscience. They have no sensitivity for truth, justice or the American way. They are, simply, ignorant assholes. They couldn’t imagine an enlightened global society if it presented them on a silver platter.

      2. The people calling Obama a terrorist and an Arab aren’t the one’s who have done their research. They’ve been watching their TVs and developing their beliefs on media bits and messaging. By hearing Palin refer to her opponent as “Barack Hussein Obama” and asking how well we know his relationship with a known terrorist, the audience is making connections in their heads.

        It frightens me how stupid some people can be, but McCain has done nothing to quell their beliefs that have been formed on nothing but a few 30 second radical commercials, and speeches by the campaign.

  10. This sure lays all those Great Guy myths to rest: http://www.rollingstone.com/ne…

    With some personality trait exceptions, you can see he is truly another 4 years of Bush. All the comments that Danny has made about respecting him through 2000 now becomes apparent.

    Many people who know him well say that a McCain presidency will be a disaster.  His lack of judgement, his spoiled personality comes through time and again.

    If you liked the last four years, you’ll love a McCain presidency….even more.

    1. It contains many comments about his service that many vets are finally speaking out about.

      I am pleased we are going move forward with an Obama victory and take on the next round of “whatever comes next”.

    2. Have heard a lot of the stories before but not with such solid sourcing or all in one well laid out article.

      Am a bit incomfortable with the part that’s critical based on his giving in to torture.  I hate it when someone like me, a Dem safe in American suburbia, brings up McCain’s confessions under torture in a critical way but understand and respect the exasperation of someone who was tortured and didn’t give in and had a friend who died under torture because he wouldn’t give in seeing McCain portraying himself as the baddest POW hero in the Hanoi Hilton.

      How this guy got to be the darling of the press corps doesn’t say much for the press corps.    

      1. I think that it’s not the comfort and safety of the writer, but the comparison with other POW’s.  

        Personally, I would understand anyone saying anything under torture, codes of conduct be damned.  Apparently other POW’s did much better, though.

        When you compare his story with the other POW’s, McCain’s is rather un-brave.

        1. and it’s no dishonor to McCain that he did.

          However, his waffling on the Bush Administration’s torture program — which produces predictable results, including outlandishly false confessions and broken, insane prisoners — is dishonorable and doesn’t speak well for McCain’s backbone standing up to fellow Republicans. He knows better and should have gone to the mat over this stain on his country’s honor.

          1. What I was saying was that the quoted source, a guy who DID stand up to torture, had every right to be disgusted with McCain’s positioning himself as the biggest POW hero on the block and the writer had every right to include it.  

            I’m not uncomfortable at all with that but when someone who has never faced anything like that criticizes McCain for his confession, THAT makes me un(not in, of course) comfortable. And I’ve heard it from many fellow liberals, including my own brother, who have never faced anything worse than cheap scratchy toilet paper in their sheltered lives. I always call them on it.

            1. BC and RG, you guys are right on.

              I would probably last about three seconds under torture. They could probably just tickle my feet with a feather like in the old cartoons and I’d spill the beans. The fact that McCain was able to undergo daily torture for years and years is truly amazing and inspiring.

              Anybody who criticizes him for confessing anything is a freaking moron, and I’d like to see them stand up to 15 minutes of what McCain underwent for years.

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