Tuesday Open Thread

“The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions.”

–Leonardo da Vinci

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  1. exlurker19 says:

    Don't faint or anything, but I wanted to thank Pols for how nicely the site is working.  No spam threads posted in Serbian or anything old thing.  I love me some edit button too.  (Of course, the absence of the almost porn Russian videos from David T might be why no Serbian spam. . . but I digress.  Come to think of it, I don't miss those, either!)

    Thanks for all your hard work.

  2. Gadfly says:

    Link below to a good article pointing out how numerous Progressive African-American Mayors re joining major AFL-CIO unions to oppose the EPA's proposed ozone regulations.  The EPA totally mishandled the Animas River spill and they have issued proposed ozone regs that are nothing more than a pie in the sky wish list.  Senator Bennet needs to join his friends in Labor and the African-American Community and stop these job-killing regulations. 

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/epa-smog-rule-battle-lines-drawn-in-poor-communities-213481

  3. BlueCat says:

    As for today's quote, Drama Queen Kim Davis is certainly deceiving herself but nobody with a lick of sense by presenting herself as having a tragic, tearful, never stint on the histrionics choice between her beliefs and jail. There is a much less dramatic option.

    If the ruling that same sex couples have the same right to marry as everyone else makes it impossible for her to issue marriage licenses as required according to her official duties as an elected official she can just resign and find a job that she can perform according to her own unique, personal, cafeteria style religious belief selections, to which she's perfectly entitled. After all, nobody claiming to be Christian or Jewish follows every rule in the Bible. Not even the most fundamentalist or orthodox. I imagine it's mostly the same for other religions and their ancient books of rules. The choices make some jobs unsuitable for some people. Not a tragedy. Nobody's right for every job regardless.

    And she should have no trouble supporting herself without this job that probably doesn't pay a whole lot anyway. Her fellow wacko supporters ought to be very helpful in coming up with alternate employment for her. She can even become another C-list wacko rightie celebrity, work shorter hours and make more money. Win/win. See Sarah Palin. She happily quit the hard job of being Governor without anyone forcing her to and has been making great money just regurgitating meaningless word salads ever since.

    But I do see that milking as much drama from the situation as possible is the way to go. You can't very well aspire to C-list celebrity status if you don't first make a big splash over a good many news cycles, the more the better. So maybe less self deception, more self promotion?

  4. MichaelBowman says:

    Ronald Reagan, Heretic

    If only the candidates were truthful to the man and his record. For the real Ronald Reagan — serial tax-raiser, illegal immigrant amnesty granter, deficit creator, abortion enabler, gun control supporter and peacenik — would never be allowed on the stage. The party has moved so far to the right from Reagan’s many centrist positions that the guy would be told to go find a home among the Democrats.

    Did I mention that he sold arms to terrorists? That he supplied money and sophisticated weapons to what would grow into the Taliban and create the monster of Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan? Or that perhaps the worst foreign policy debacle on his watch — the death of 248 Marines at the hands of terrorists in Lebanon, resulting in a shameful retreat — makes Benghazi look like a game of pinochle?

    Want to hear another round of catcalls? Let’s talk guns. Shot by a crazy man, Reagan became an advocate of sensible firearms legislation. He backed the Brady Bill — named for his wounded press secretary — that was signed by President Clinton. It required background checks for criminals, and a waiting period. He also supported an assault weapons ban, as most Americans still do. His words against assault weapons are credited with helping the ban pass a reluctant Congress in the Clinton era.

    • BlueCat says:

      Just as with Trump,  this facty stuff doesn't matter to devotees. I once tried to explain the whole tax raising thing to Conti when she was running for my neighborhood's HD seat and was met by stubborn disbelief that it could possibly be true that that Reagan ever raised taxes or that it could possibly be true in 2010, that Obama hadn't. Her entire campaign was about  bringing down sky rocketing taxes, blissfully ignorant off the reality that taxes hadn’t even inched up, much less skyrocketed. The wealthiest still had their hefty Bush tax cut that was supposed to expire but never did. Taxes were down for middle income workers because of the payroll tax cut, the only tax cut Republicans opposed and insisted be allowed to expire, unlike the tax cut for the top.

      Total disbelief. It was like I was telling her Santa Claus isn't real. A million and a half dollars later she won by a few hundred. They really wanted that seat back. I sent her info with links and everything. May as well have sent them to my cat. A tiny majority of voters fell for it hook line and sinker. They just liked the hating on Obama and bringing down (already historically low) taxes rhetoric.

      On the plus side Reagan did do more than any Republican before him to destroy the American middle class so they can still  believe in his sainthood for that.

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