Weekend Open Thread

“Stupidity is doomed, therefore, to cringe at every syllable of wisdom.”


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  1. Nurse Chaps says:

    Rick Perry tweet, re-tweeted by Ann Coulter:   After @SenSchumer votes to uphold the Iran treaty, maybe Planned Parenthood can get him some replacement foreskin.

    • mamajama55 says:

      That patented Coulter toxic mix: personal attack, political point, and a little anti-Semitism thrown in. Crude, nasty, and mean-spirited. What a great decision by Perry to re-tweet – it shows his desperation to do something outrageous enough to get him onto Fox's debate stage.

      And don't tell me that a reference to circumcision directed at one of Congress' only Jewish members isn't anti-Semitic.

      • FrankUnderwood says:

        If Rick Perry really needs attention that badly, he should assemble a posse of Texans, ride across the Mexican border, and take out that ISIS campaign Ken Buck told us was there. Or they could track down El Chappo so Donald Trump could sleep more soundly at night.

    • DaftPunk says:

      Hospitals are disposing of tons of it from newborn baby boys.  We don't need no stinken' Planned Parenthood!

      Seriously, I thought pundits and politicians were above references to an opponents' genitals.


  2. exlurker19 says:

    I just want to thank all of the early risers in CoPols who have supplanted AC as the first poster in the Open Threads.  He used to bum my day out, even though I just hit the scroll button.

  3. Zappatero says:

    Why isn't Michael Bennet's name ever associated with proposals like this?

    Washington, DC – Today, U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) joined Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Representatives Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.) and Bobby Scott (D-Va.), and nearly 80 of their colleagues to introduce the Schedules that Work Act in the Senate and House. The legislation addresses unstable, unpredictable, and rigid scheduling practices such as placing workers "on-call" with no guarantee of work hours, scheduling them for "split shifts" of non-consecutive hours, sending workers home early without pay when demand is low and punishing workers who request schedule changes. 

    These scheduling practices disproportionately affect low-wage workers and workers in retail, food service, and cleaning occupations, and make it hard for these workers and their families to maintain stable child care, care for other family members, pursue career development or other education, get or keep a second job, or take care of their own health. Variable schedules can also lead to significant fluctuations in income for workers. As a result, workers struggle to manage their household incomes and balance professional responsibilities with individual and family needs.

    Will the law pass in this congress, with Republicans still running off the rails and Senate Republicans, especially, still determined to stifle any productive or responsible proposal by the Appeasing, Apologetic, anti-Business, America-hating, Iran-loving Tyrant in the White House:?

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren could have brushed [the question] off with a blithely confident statement. Instead, perhaps tired of hearing this kind of thing, she wanted to make a larger point.

    "Let me say a word on that," she said, stepping up to the podium. "It is hard. I understand. And our party is not in the majority. But you don’t get what you don’t fight for. And that’s what this is about." Warren warmed to her oratory, which might as well be the Democrats' anthem this term.

    Oh, you mean you have to fight for it? And can Bennet be seen fighting for something to help workers or something supported by labor groups, unions, and others? 

    For Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), it's about pushing a package of reforms that adapt to how the relationships between workers and their employers have evolved.

    "The world has changed. For the new people who are growing up, the protections that were once built into the workplace by just the way the workplace worked, by unions, are gone. So we have to change things," Schumer said. "This is not only an important piece of legislation that I’m proud to co-sponsor, but it’s a very important step that we as Democrats who care about the middle class realize that new kinds of protections, new kinds of thinking are needed."

    OK, so only Dems in Blue states can sponsor this kind of thing. Those in "purple" states, with D activists who love the color purple, need to play it safe and not do anything that will tick off the moderate middle, undecided, or independent voters.

    But, what if those voters need some help in deciding? What if they see Democrats who unabashedly stand up on issues where there is a clear problem and an obvious solution?

    We may never know, because guys like Bennet are so afraid of the mysterious middle, so enamored of that bipartisan unicorn, that they constantly err on the side of caution and the status quo. And because he's so busy acting like a Republican and pretending to be a Democrat, bills with obvious appeal to Democrats that show a dedication to long-held principles and that voters support get nothing from the Democratic senator from Colorado.


    • mamajama55 says:

      I love that "Schedules That Work" Act. I myself, my kids, my friends, have all been kept in poverty hanging on a company's or boss's whim to schedule under 20 hours, under 30, whatever improves the company's bottom line and hurts the workers. It puts workers at the mercy of favoritism, sexual and racial harassment, punishment for union organizing, etc.

      With Obama's executive order on paying overtime, this will make a real difference in the take-home pay and living conditions of millions of working people.

    • Civics101 says:

      It is ironic, at this stage of Colorado's 2016 Senate race, that the announced Republican candidates are, respectively, black and Hispanic.  The rich, white guy, in the race, is the Democrat.

      • BlueCat says:

        Let's see how many black and Hispanic voters vote Republican. 

        • Civics101 says:

          The more salient point may be "Lets see how many black and Hispanic voters vote at all in 2016."  They are generally the most unreliable voting blocks and Hillary is nowhere as inspiring as Bill Clinton or Barack Obama.

          • mamajama55 says:

            But Bernie is……devil

            I meant to post this earlier. In Arizona, Sanders drew a crowd of 11,000 people, to almost no mainstream news coverage.

            Meanwhile, we're talking about stupid Donald Trump. I'm going on a Trump diet. No more writing about him at all, or if I do, I will post on Bernie twice. Here ya go, Civics, because I know you just want to feel the Bern…




            • BlueCat says:

              Because news has become entertainment and Trump is a constant source of outrageous stupid statements that people can get in a lather about. Bernie is just exceeding all expectations and turning conventional wisdom on its head.  And that's another thing the media doesn't care for; having its conventional wisdom challenged.

              The crowds that grumpy rumpled old Jewish socialist Bernie Sanders is drawing, even in red states, and the degree to which he's forcing HRC to adjust her message should, by all rights, be the big political story right now. Instead the media has chosen to cooperate with the Donald in his latest reality TV show.

              With so many R candidates to choose from and a low info public doing the choosing in these polls, all you need to be the front runner is to break into very low double digits. Trump is a big enough celebrity to do that. And how hard can it be to find a low double digit constituency for his bombastic idiocy within the ranks of 21st century Republican voters?

              When there are no longer 17, or twenty or whatever it's up to now, splitting up points, that will be the end of the Donald's presidential campaign. Unless he wants to self fund as a third party choice. Please, please, please! He could chose that thing on his head as running mate.

    • DaftPunk says:

      Because his background in business (resurrecting the value of Anschutz' cinema holdings) sees labor as a line item in a budget.


    • Conserv. Head Banger says:

      Zappatero writes:  why isn't Michael Bennet's name ever associated with proposals like this?    Answer:  because Bennet is a smart and intelligent senator who represents all Coloradans, not just liberals like Zapp. 

      No doubt that life can be tough in these low-wage professions. I know, because I worked in them at one time. But Zappatero overlooks the fact that for the employers, availability of work is often cyclical, spotty, dependent on local economic conditions. One should not mix up business giants like Wal Mart with small businesses. Bennet has been a friend of small business, agriculture, and miners. As mamajama points out, the executive order will help many of these low wage employees.

      Despite the rhetoric of the Murray press release, I don't believe that government should be the entity that always bails people out due to their poor life choices (that philosophy comes from having spent 25 years working in a government social services program).   C.H.B.


      • BlueCat says:

        How about government making it possible for Walmart and others to pay people less than a living wage (one on which a person can actually stay alive, eat, etc) by forcing tax payers to subsidize those companies' workers through social programs?

        Let them take other jobs, you say? Poor life choices? Poor life choices aren't the reason why so may American workers have to take those jobs. The fact is that the lost living wage jobs that the majority of those working in the Walmartisized job market used to have available are no longer there. They can't find better jobs. There aren't enough of them available despite decades of promises that conservative economic policy, such as cutting taxes for the rich, would create good jobs. The taxes were cut long ago. The good jobs never materialized.That's simple fact.

        As far as life choices, you can only fit a given number of those making good life choices into the limited number of jobs available for those with better education and more training. There will never be enough of those jobs to employ most Americans, regardless. Put simply you can only have so many doctors, lawyers, scientists, entrepreneurs, mid to upper level management positions, etc.  Even if every single person is educated to qualify they couldn't all find those jobs.  So how do the rest to support themselves without adequate living wage job availability?

        Do you not see the contradiction in the right simultaneously railing against government hand outs and not only having no problem with but lauding the companies accounting for such a huge chunk of those hand outs to subsidize their work force or with the business models of those employers based on those very hand outs? Without those handouts people like the the Walmart family would never have become billionaires in the first place. They built their fortune on the backs of taxpayer funded subsidies.

        And they did so quite cynically with orientation including sit downs for the purpose of directing incoming employees to the government services they were going to require to make up the difference between what they would need to live and what they were going to be able to earn. Also an anti-union propaganda video.

        Why all the railing against government handouts but not against the less than living wage business model that has depended on those hand outs, demanded them, built fortunes on them for decades? Talk about welfare queens. The Walton family is the world's penultimate Welfare Empire. And no, there is nothing radical or socialist or anti-business or rich-bashing about recognizing that simple demonstrable objective reality. And the reality is socialism for the rich for the purpose of transferring a much wealth as possible from the majority to a few thousand families. It's the conservatives who are always at the barricades defending that tax payer subsidized transfer.

        • notaskinnycook says:

          Do they still keep the forms to apply for social assistance in the break-rooms at Mal-wart? I've known people who worked there who said they were strongly encouraged to apply for assistance to make up for the living wages the company didn't want to pay. 

          • BlueCat says:

            Don't know but know they not only had those forms in the break room years ago but walked new hires through them as part of orientation along with the scary union organizers are bad video every new hire was shown.

            My kid briefly had an after school job there and for literally years after we kept getting notices of class action law suit. None applied to him for his brief part time stint but they we very interesting. One was about locking their  (mainly undocumented) stock room workers in the store over night. Kid knew this to be true. One was about forcing workers to  punch out after a certain number of hours but continue to work for free. A variation on this was for management to go over their time cards and change them by subtracting hours. We got notices involving both practices. Either way this prevented any of the very rare full time workers from getting overtime and the rest of the workers never had enough hours to qualify as full time and receive benefits. Another was a gender discrimination suit. There were others but those are the ones I remember. They just kept arriving in the mail for years.

            Walmart pretty much has always lost and had to pay up but it's part of their business model. What's few million in settlements here and there to them? In the hours stealing cases they found it much cheaper to continue to steal hours from workers on a massive scale and pay the occasional millions in settlements. These are truly evil SOBs.

        • Conserv. Head Banger says:

          BlueCat: let me reply to you in this way, not because I don't have a strong case against what you write (JUly 18, 12:46 PM), but because I don't have a lot of time right now. I've assumed that your party affiliation is Democrat? If correct, during the past 25 years, your party has held both houses of congress, the presidency, and sometimes both at the same time. If there is such a concern for low wage workers, why was your party not more active, especially in dealing with the WalMart issue that you describe (note that in the Sunday Denver Post business section today, article about Wal Mart looking to buy much more from American manufacturers and suppliers).

          A major anti-poverty tool, at the federal level, has been the Earned Income Tax Credit. Enacted in 1975 by the Ford Administration (Republican); altered, generally for the good, by the 1986 tax reform act by the Reagan Administration (Republican), with strong Democratic support (Gephardt House sponsor; Bradley Senate sponsor). Further expanded in 1990 by the G.H.W. Bush Administration (Republican) and also in 2001 by the G.W. Bush Administration (Republican). Also expanded in 2009 by the Obama Administration.

          Obviously, when he made the remark about the 47% in the 2012 presidential campaign, the Mittster had not done his homework, or his staff had not,

          An article in the December issue of the Atlantic estimated the total cost in 2015 of the EIC at $70 billion.

          • BlueCat says:

            The Dem party wasn't more active because of the lasting fear that the Reagan revolution put into them. For decades the conventional wisdom has been that the country is really conservative and Dems can only win by being conservative lite. So the failed policies, the voodoo economics have largely continued although all economic progress and improvement has been made under Dems who have at least toned it down and mixed in some good, sensible policy.

            Bottom line, conservative subsidize the rich, trickle down, anti-union, anti-worker policies have had decades to work and have failed miserably whether at full strength or watered down and yes, it's been with the cooperation of scaredy cat Dems.  The more Dems are willing to trust the polls that always show the public preferring progressive policies and completely reject the utterly and totally discredited conservative economic policies that have relentlessly transferred wealth from the middle and lower income majority to a few thousand families enjoying incredible wealth, the better off the majority of Americans will be. The elite at the top have not invested in ways that create well paying jobs or benefit anyone but themselves, bringing legendary American upward mobility to a grinding halt.

            Dems like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are will be joined by others in having the  guts to speak out and clearly explain to the public that the measures they approve of in polls are the policies they can only get with Dems. It's already happening. We're already seeing movement in the Dem establishment away from Republican lite and toward the policies that have always worked, always made the American people better off, have always enriched and expanded the middle and in every instance made us all better off under Dems.  

            Even in watered down form as witnessed by our having been better off under triangulating Clinton than we were under Reagan or GHWB, then taking another nose dive under GW to recover to an admirable degree under Obama. When we have Dem pols with the guts to go all out without fear of being called too socialist or too mean to the poor rich, to pint out that they are  not job cratrs at all, that  ordinary people with the money to buy ordinary things are the job creators,l see even greater economic progress.  

            Neo, phony or classic, all the iterations of conservative economic policy are discredited garbage. Sorry.  None of it works as demonstrated by decades of decline for the majority and a dangerous  degree of concentration of wealth in the hands of a tiny non-job creating elite. The theory behind it has been proved dead wrong and Dems erred tragically in trying to be almost as conservative as conservatives instead of calling out the Emperor's nakedness. Trump is no aberration. Trump is the logical conclusion to conservative economic theory. He's all yours. 

  4. MichaelBowman says:

    Sweet, #RepublicanJesus…a call to arms?  (although I'm not sure I'd equate the number  '200'   to an Army).  These people are sociopaths. 

    Evangelical policy activists raise ‘God’s army’ at Colorado Springs conference


    “There is an army of God rising up,” Cowart said Monday to a chorus of amens from the crowd.

    As this week’s speakers made abundantly clear, that army is staunchly heterosexual, proudly politically incorrect, devout to Fox News and ready to war with big-government, Muslims, atheists, homosexuals, Ivy League intellectuals and anyone else who doubts the fundamentalist vision of the Bible.


    • mamajama55 says:

      These evangelical politicians have the nerve to paraphrase Martin Luther King out of context. For the record, MLK never said, "America is a Christian Nation." In his 1956 writing,
      [url=http://kingencyclopedia.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/documentsentry/doc_pauls_letter_to_american_christians]Paul's Letter to American Christians/url], in the midst of extensive critiques of the different sects of American Christianity, MLK wrote:

      The misuse of Capitalism can also lead to tragic exploitation. This has so often happened in your nation. They tell me that one tenth of one percent of the population controls more than forty percent of the wealth. Oh America, how often have you taken necessities from the masses to give luxuries to the classes. If you are to be a truly Christian nation you must solve this problem. (emphasis mine)

      That was MLK, foreshadowing the anti-capitalist message of our modern Pope Francis. It really chaps my hide that these folks, who have probably never read MLK's work, blithely use bits and pieces of it to further work which MLK would undoubtedly have roundly condemned.

    • itlduso says:

      I'm not worried about them.  Let's go down the list:

      –Muslim – nope

      –Homosexual – nope

      –Ivy League intellectual – I wish

      –Atheist – uh, oh….

      • MichaelBowman says:

        This quote made a few of my neo-con Catholic friends heads explode…

        • notaskinnycook says:

          That will set their hair on fire, Michael. I'll bet those people liked the last guy a whole lot better than this one. 

        • BlueCat says:

          Greatest Pope in all of history. Yes he won't agree with libs about choice or birth control but that's not the stuff he's most interested in talking about. For decades it seems like all we've heard from the Catholic Church mainly concerns things like how candidates who don't oppose choice shouldn't be allowed to take communion and how Catholics must never vote for pro-choice candidates no matter how good on every other issue and need to vote for the anti-choice Republican no matter how terrible on every other issue. It's really refreshing to hear from a Pope with a completely different set of priorities: The general welfare, dignity, and well being of all the people, no matter their religion or lack thereof, and how we should strive to be better, kinder, fairer, more respectful and supportive of one another and of the planet we call home.

          If he ever comes to Denver, this old Jew, who honestly never gave a rat's ass about any other pope of my lifetime, would be thrilled to go see him.


        • Civics101 says:

          I cannot imagine how such a concept would translate into Islam, as ISIS members go about their war on humanity.

          • mamajama55 says:

            Islam has its liberals, moderates, and fundamentalists, just like Christianity or any other religion. ISIS are criminals who use their religion to justify their crimes – not unlike people who go out and shoot abortion doctors or shoot up a Sikh temple in the name of Jesus.

  5. Voyageur says:

    Just a word about the slanderous attack by Donald Trump, a yellow-bellied draft dodger attacking the military service of Sen. John McCain, who was imprisoned and tortured in North Vietnam, for being captured after his aircraft was shot down over enemy territory.   McCain was the son and grandson of two famous American admirals a fact that led the North Vietnamese offered to set him free as a propaganda ploy.   But despite constant torture — to this day he can't comb his hair because the Communists hung him from his wrists tied behind his back until he was crippled for life, a torture they picked up from the inquisition — McCain refused special treatment and returned to the U.S. when the other American P.O.W.s did.  And yet when I met him a few years ago, he thanked ME for my modest service, though I told him I hadn't done 1 percent of what he did.

        Mr. Trump, you are a disgrace to cowards everywhere.  It wasn't a bone spur that kept you out of the military — it was that yellow streak down your back.  Maybe you should go to Russia — Putin can always use a stooge like you to attack the real American heros. 

        For the record, Traitor Trump, my service number was RA 68030300.  In the end, I was not sent to Vietnam, but I did enlist and serve my country while you and your fellow chicken hawks were stealing the jobs of our servicemen.  

       I'd tell you to go to hell, but I'm told that even the devil has some standards, and you'll be refused admittance.  

         — A proud American veteran

    • BlueCat says:

      The reaction of the audience tells me he might have just ended the love affair he's been enjoying with tea bag righties who love to hear him talk "tough". The Tea Baggers might not like McCain very much but I bet they like some arrogant rich guy who never broke a nail for his country denigrating somebody like McCain, who went through what he went through, and denying his heroism even less. These people consider themselves super patriotic troop supporters. With this on endless loop and during the same cycle covering the shooting deaths of four marines maybe some eyes will be open.

      He says McCain isn't a real hero. Just somebody who got caught and he likes those that don't get caught. What will he say about those marines? They just got themselves shot so they're nothing special?  Will his supporters finally see him for what he is? A blowhard with money who likes attention, bragging, posturing and playing let's pretend tough guy.

      The only reason this bozo is anywhere near a presidential race is because 24/7 cable loves to put him on or show clips of him mouthing off.  I hope Fox, CNN and MSNBC are all proud of themselves for creating his campaign. It's getting to be very hard not to wish him a slow and painful death from some horrible disease. 

    • ruthella says:

      Here here, Voyageur, and thank you for your service.Trump really shows how gross he is with these remarks. The Republicans are reaping what they've sowed — standing by or particpating in the villification of Kerry's record because they disagreed with him politically, and now they are (rightfully) upset. Trump is the perfect candidate for what the GOP has become.

    • The realist says:

      Trump is what he is. What worries me far more are the idiots (is there a better word? I'll try to think of one . . . ) who, when polled, put Trump at the top of the dung heap the Republican clown car bus has turned into.


      • Duke Cox says:

        To be sure.
        I am a working class guy and I know a scary number of very uneducated and uninformed people who are eating this up. "Trump the Pompulist"  is the face and voice of their hatred and their obeisance to the almighty dollar. There are millions of Americans who agree with him.

        The damned fools are dangerous…

        • BlueCat says:

          What do you think they'll make of Trump's complete lack of respect for someone who spent years being tortured as a POW ? Do you think this will have any effect?

          • Duke Cox says:

            I do. The blowhard has blown just a little too hard…..

            He should have left the old bastard alone….

          • Progressicat says:

            I think we're going to be surprised at how little the rabble care about the aged POW from a bygone war.  And I think they're going to keep supporting their rouser.

            It'll be interesting to see what happens, but I have full faith in Trump's ability to ride the GOP anger train a while more.  After all, he's the quintessential member of the elite, riling up the masses to fight each other over crumbs while he gets fat off the cake.  This is the corporatist political model stripped naked– give them enough to keep them from revolution but not enough to stop the crabs from pulling each other back down into the jar while in search of a scrap more.

            Trump is offering the bread and the circus and the masses are entertained.

            • Duke Cox says:

              you could me right…many of those haters we are discussing, though, have a strong military influence…and he's a draft dodger.

              as you say…this will be interesting to watch and see what eventually brings him down…public opinion or the RNC.

            • BlueCat says:

              I agree they won't care about McCain personally but I think many may be seriously put off by failing to respect military heroes in general. That's part of their self identification as super patriots, twisted as their conception of what being an American patriot may be.  Of course they're only "patriotic" where the military is concerned. They're anything but patriotic in any other instance, completely failing to recognize that the federal government that we elect is the United States of America they claim to love better than anyone and the military they deify is a federal entity. Or, for that matter, that the Confederate battle flag is the flag of traitors to the United States of America, pure and simple.

            • MichaelBowman says:

              I was around a group last night that included Trump supporters.  1) they shrugged off the McCain comment, and 2) they love him because they say (what we all know) "we finally have a candidate who's saying what most of us think".   They were very privileged white folk who still think Roves delusion 2012 mantra that 'they're taking everything back" is still in play. 

              Speaking of the little guy – is he in a witness protection program somewhere?  


  6. Duke Cox says:

    President Trump negotiates with Iran

    “They didn’t read ‘The Art of the Deal.’” —Donald Trump, on “Morning Joe,” referring to his 1987 best-seller, critiquing the treaty with Iran

    So I called you here today because I think it’s important to get this deal signed. I mean important to you, I frankly don’t care that much. You’re talking atom bombs, we have the best atom bombs in the world — fantastic, incredible atom bombs. I had them all redone in bronze when I was elected, because we’re a world-class country, and let’s face it, gunmetal gray isn’t a very attractive color even for a 500-megaton weapon that could set your beard on fire from 250 miles away.

    Which I’m not saying to threaten you. Because I don’t have to threaten you, that’s not how I negotiate. I understand your position. You’ve got all these centrifuges that are, basically, don’t take this the wrong way, they’re pieces of junk, and you need to get rid of them. So if you’re asking will we take them off your hands, the answer is yes, we will, if the price is right.

    But I gotta tell you, I’m just not that impressed with what you’re offering. I could walk away from this deal right now and tomorrow I could buy all the uranium in Iran with what NBC paid me for one season. And then you know what I would do with it? I’d enrich it. Who knows more about enrichment than me?

    I want to say something for your own good. Because I’m worried you might be thinking of going with Russia. Russia is for losers. And China is worse. Maybe I shouldn’t be saying this, but I’ll say it anyway because I like to speak my mind. I heard this from someone very, very high up in the government. I don’t want to say who. But he told me, China is a total joke.

    Look, I love your country. You have some incredible ruins. Flying here, I saw at least three sites where I would love to put a world-class golf course and casino. And the Iranian people are my biggest fans. They love all the things the Trump name stands for: freedom, democracy, elegance, class, 10-foot-6 ceiling heights and granite countertops. I said to my vice president the other day, “Oprah, do you think I can be president of Iran and America at the same time?” Because I honestly think I could get elected here. “Celebrity Apprentice” has been on reruns for six years here, and it’s still the highest-rated program in the history of Iranian television.

    So look, we’ve been negotiating all morning. I’ve closed deals for some of the most expensive, luxurious apartments in the world in less time. I’ve got a major golf tournament starting in a few hours. So if you want to make a deal, call my assistant and she’ll fax over a treaty. Secretary of State Hannity will handle the details.

    Authored by Jerry Adler

  7. MichaelBowman says:

    A small serving of Welfare Dynasty, anyone? 

    Do you remember a time when Patriarch Phil Robertson said that African-Americans were better off “pre-entitlement, pre-welfare?” When they were “happy” and “Godly?” Do you remember those remarks? Good. Keep them in mind, because while Robertson was complaining about Blacks on welfare, the cast of his show, Duck Dynasty, soaked up hundreds of thousands of dollars in welfare money from the State of Louisiana every year.


  8. Progressicat says:

    Who you gonna call?  Well, White Squad, of course.

    • exlurker19 says:

      That was hilarious.  Thanks, PC.

    • mamajama55 says:

      As I lurk on rightie sites, I see that the worldview of tea party Republicans exactly mirrors this video. Like my ornery Southern granma, they grumble that "Mebbe ef ah painted masef black,  someone'd might pay tention to me."

      She felt that way, about my civil rights activist parents, even though she came from a tradition of Alabama racism so vicious that they didn't even bury their dead together – they had separate and unequal cemeteries, as I found out when I researched my father's side of the family.

      My right wing virtual "friends" feel victimized as white people, and believe that the advantages are all going to people of color. Weird and completely contradicted by objective reality.

      When I can, I puncture their bubbles, just a little bit – – not enough to get banned for trolling, as they are quick to do at any perceived threat to this worldview. They're not secure enough in their own beliefs, as we are on here, to tolerate dissent and engage in debate. They know that they stand on shaky ground.


  9. mamajama55 says:

    From Gawker: No, Planned Parenthood is not selling aborted fetal body parts.

    The Planned Parenthood "selling aborted baby body parts" video is, of course, another Breitbart-style heavily edited propaganda video, from the same people and shop that purported to show ACORN workers advising on how to cheat on taxes and import underage prostitutes from across the border. 

    Factual basis:

    Women who choose to have abortions can also choose to donate the aborted fetal tissue for stem cell research. Or they can keep it and take it home for burial, or whatever.

    The medical waste is subject to a transportation and handling fee, and this is paid by the waste handler, then passed on to the research facility requesting the waste. It's about $10-30 per "specimen". Nobody is bidding on body parts. Planned Parenthood is not making a profit from the donations their patients give.

    It's not any different than a patient getting a tumor or organ removed, then donating that tissue for scientific research. It gives the women involved some comfort that something positive can come out of their wrenching decision to terminate their pregnancies.

    I really don't want to lose Planned Parenthood funding the way we lost ACORN because of this bullshit. ACORN was the only voter registration outfit that went door to door in poor and working class neighborhoods, regardless of party "targeting", and ACORN helped a lot of low-income people get housing.

    So if your right wing buddies or family members send you info about the terrible PP body parts sale, refer them to one of the Gawker or Snopes links for the straight story.

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