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May 29, 2008 12:01 AM UTC

Shafroth Submits 4,600 Petitions, No Paid Gatherers Used

  • by: Colorado Pols

From a press release from the campaign of Democratic CD-2 candidate Will Shafroth:

Shafroth Submits Over 4,600 Petition Signatures to Shatter Both CD2 and Democratic Record

Signatures Collected From All 10 Counties in the Second CD; No Paid-Signature Collectors Employed

BOULDER, CO – Will Shafroth, candidate for Congress in Colorado’s 2nd Congressional District, today submitted a Democratic and Second Congressional District record 4,600 signatures to the Colorado Secretary of State.

Shafroth’s 4,600 signatures — over four times the number required to make the ballot – more than doubles the number of signatures submitted by Congressman Mark Udall (CD2) when he successfully petitioned his way on to the ballot in 1998. The collected signatures represent all 10 counties comprising the Second CD and were collected without the use of any paid, professional signature collectors.

“To collect over 4,600 signatures without employing a single paid professional petition circulator — and to more than double the amount submitted by my good friend Congressman Mark Udall — is tremendously gratifying and a testament to Coloradans desire to finally change Washington,” stated Will Shafroth. “This truly democratic process has given me the chance to hear from literally thousands of people who are sick and tired of the bickering and partisan fighting in Congress. To have volunteers step up and make this kind commitment to bring honest change to Washington is humbling.”

Will Shafroth is a political outsider who has spent 27 years bringing people together to solve tough conservation problems and believes that to deliver results on healthcare, Iraq and global warming, Washington needs a change from the promises, partisanship and empty rhetoric that have gone on too long in Congress.

Shafroth did not submit more signatures than the other congressional “Wil,” Wil Armstrong in CD-6. But Shafroth claims to have not used paid signature gatherers in his effort, which makes the collection more impressive.


45 thoughts on “Shafroth Submits 4,600 Petitions, No Paid Gatherers Used

  1. Shafroth has one million dollars cash on hand and a strong field operation

    Joan Fitz-Gerald is out of money. Her field operation got out classed by the Polis team at the Congressional convention.  

    Joan started out in a very strong position. Now, she is broke. Two months ago a Fitz-Gerald victory was inevitable. Today she is in deep trouble. Bob Ewegen remembers what happened in 1998 when the inevitable candidate Gail Schoettler blew a fifteen point lead with three weeks to go and lost. Every night Joan goes to bed remembering who the architect of that debacle was.

    This race is now a two way race between Shafroth and Polis.

      1. when Will should be getting great headlines and positive attention, this fool is undermining his candidate. Maybe he’s a double-agent sock puppet, secretly working for Scott Starin.  

        1. Recognizing that thinking is not your strong suit let’s stick to the facts.

          Fitz-Gerald has raised around $1 million but is down to under $250,000 cash on hand. She does not have the cash to compete.  

          Fitz-Gerald’s field operation was ineffective at the Congressional convention. Joan knows that in her last big race her campaign manager choked at the end and coughed up a huge lead. I bet Joan is wondering if history is about to repeat itself?

          Polis has all those self-inflicted wounds. No way he can explain away, for example his claim to always have been against vouchers. I cannot wait to see the attack ads and direct mail exposing all those statements that just were not true.

          Shafroth has Dixon Davis doing his TV and one million dollars in the bank.  Shafroth has a team able to go out and get a huge number of signatures. Neither Fitz-Gerald or Polis could have duplicated that effort.  

          Tell me who is in the strongest position now in CD2?

          1. I’d say Shafroth is. But you’ve made the same four or five points a hundred times. We get it. Come up with something new, your relentless, juvenile posts are reflecting poorly on your candidate.

      2. Gail never had a 15 point lead.  Gail made a foto-finish despite a republican registration lead of 180,000 in a year when the GOP also took both chambers of the legislature.  

        1. Schoettler was behind only on election day.  Her campaign goes down as one of the great choke jobs in Colorado history. The Republicans had a registration edge. The same edge they had held four years before when Romer won big.  1998 was also a huge Democratic year nationally.  

          Glad the ROTC story on Polis caught your eye.  

            1. Check the facts from 1998.  It was a great choke job.

              Glad you will be checking up on that Polis claim that he was in the ROTC.  

              1. Are we now pretending anyone reads or cares about drivel written by Ewegen or Carroll types?  Their rants are buried so deep that only Litwen reads them on his way to his back page.

                And Gail totally choked.  Photo finish?  Now that’s revisionism!

      3. WTB is Lover of Irony and a few other handles here.  I doubt (s)he is making any impact whatsoever.  Readers on Pols are insiders and obviously the insiders also are looking around quickly to figure out whatever they can figure out, but they’re not going to be overly swayed by one opinion.

        1. Political insiders wouldn’t be swayed by an idiot who posts the same limpid, unrhymed verses assailing Jared Polis 343 times?  What makes you think that;-)  

  2. Any guesses on how many votes will be cast in the primary?

    Any guesses on how many votes it will take to win?

    Udall won the CD2 primary in 1998 with 12k votes out of a total of about 28k and that was a year with a contested senate and governor primary.  

    Since there is no president/governor/senate I don’t think turnout will be huge in august.  However, I’m not certain about this.

    1. 30K-35K voters and 18K safe to win, maybe 15K gets it done.  Obviously if #2 and #3 split evenly then a bit over 10-12K gets it done.

      I haven’t hidden my support for WS but even so, this is his second shockingly good report in a row (the first being the Q1 fundraising numbers)

  3. Whether or not these votes translate into supporters, I don’t know.

    The few people I’ve talked to about it said they’d sign Shafroth’s petition, even though they might have a different candidate as a favorite.

    Let’s face it – all three of the CD-2 candidates are at worst not embarrassing, and at best each will bring strong positives to the seat when elected.

    But today, congratulations to Will for his very good official entry into the primary race.

      1. If you had, only the first one you signed would be valid. I just called the Secretary of State Elections division and learned voters may only sign one nominating petition for a contested race. If you sign any others, the subsequent signatures are invalid.

        It’s the same as delegates at an assembly. You don’t get to vote “all of the above.”

          1. Whoever wins the primary is likely going to have the job as long as he or she wants it, so cast a vote for posterity. (Unless Polis flits on to something else; FitzGerald or Shafroth could stay there for a decade.)

  4. Gathering signatures sucks. What’s worse than stalking people in grocery store parking lots? Especially if it is futile overkill like this to try and score a couple of headlines. A better use of time would be to gather 1750 to 2000 to be safe, and then get those volunteers spending their time getting some ID’s from likely voters.  

    1. I ran a (successful) petition drive to get a candidate on the ballot years ago, things might have changed since. But aren’t you pledging you’ll vote for the candidate in the primary, when you sign a nominating petition? Of course, it’s unenforceable, but you’re not just saying “yeah, sure, put him on the ballot,” you’re saying you’ll vote for the guy (or gal). So the Shafroth campaign has a good likely voter list already.

    1. As a resident of the district.   For my part, I’m having a hard time recalling when I saw three credible, viable, candidates dueling, if you forget the zillion-member primary that Lamborn won in the Springs.

      What makes this so remarkable is that 2nd is anything but a Democratic lock, Mark Udall barely beat moderate Republican Bob Greenlee.  Yet, the GOP is giving the Ds a pass at the very time the Ds are facing a potentially divisive three-way primary.  I guess that’s a sign of the low ebb of Republican fortunes in Colorado. Despite the number of Shafroth’s signatures, I always see being forced to take the petition route as a sign of weakness, because if you can’t impress the party cadre, it bodes ill for later.  So right now, I rate them Fitz-G 1, Polis 2 Shafroth 3.  But all have well-financed organized campaigns and the key question as always is Who Splits Whose Base?  Fitz-G probably runs better in the more moderate Jeffco, Adams portions of the district but how do you read the troika?

      I’m also interested in how other district residents read it, sockpuppets excepted, of course.

      1.    True, but how often does the GOP run a moderate these days?  Halley’s Comet will return before the Republicans run another Bob Greenlee type candidate.

        1. Bob is really fairly conservative, but he does live on our planet. I thought someone like former Jeffco Commissioner and state Rep. Michelle Lawrence might run or Sandy Hume, who ran against Udall in 2002.  Hume was a longtime county official and former state rep. In their glory days, Republicans remembered that a moderate Republican is 100 percent better than a liberal democrat.  Basically, the most important vote you cast is to organize the house.  The difference between a Denny Hastert and a Nancy Pelosi, and the people they appoint to chair the gatekeepers, is enormous. But really, it looks to me like the Republican candidate recruiting system is breaking down. Part of the problem is being out of power in the lege, which denies them the high profile posts that a Fitz-G enjoys. Mike May has a talented group of first and second year legislators he’s priming for better things, but nobody in striking range in the second. Part of the problem is that the liberal to moderate Republicans, like Hume, have been replaced with liberal Democrats like Claire Levy. But after watching nearly 40 years of Republican domination of state politics, I am still amazed at the reversal of fortune for the GOP.  

            1. The Ds had about a 40 year run in Congress before Gingrich and co. threw them out.  It didn’t take nearly as long for power to corrupt the Rs and lead to their own ouster.  Hegel seems the only true guide to politics.

          1. on recruiting ills leading to the GOPs “reversal of fortune.” I believe that the Rs internecine warfare prevents the recruitment of center right candidates. A primary battle with the religious right is enough of a deterrent to  keep the moderates out. What’s left are marginally competitive far right candidates.

            Boulder, of course, is a different story. Only a moderate R could get through, Greenlee was very well liked and the Mayor of Boulder. Jeffco is a prime example of the effect. The party moves further right and loses a foothold e.g. Matt Knoedler vs Betty Boyd.

            BTW, great line “your job is to make coffee, not wager it”

      2. CD2 is not a D lock but this year it is.  It’s a year that the R’s are going to get trounced nation-wide.  They’ve already lost three mid-year replacement election in R-leaning districts (the most prominent being Hastert’s seat).  No way in hades they’re winning a D-leaning seat that has a fired-up, super-lib core.  

        Going straight to the voters and ignoring the party hacks is a sign of weakness in an apathetic district where the vote(r)s are controlled by a party machine.  That’s definitely not the case in CD-2.  If anything the party hacks are most irrelevant in a highly motivated and educated district.

        Most likely Polis and Shafroth split each others bases more than any other combo, but part of that is b/c Jared has been positioning himself as a checkbook enviro, thus taking some of Will’s enviro support.  On the media slashing, though, Jared and Joan are carving each other up, letting Will take spoils.  So it’s hard to tell.  I doubt Joan gets more play than the others in Adams.  Jeffco maybe, but not Adams.  

        1. This is anyone’s to win. As to adams, I have think Fg is at least best positioned in the Westminster area, that city being split about half and half twix Jeffco and Adams.

          Neither Jeffco nor Adams is nearly as liberal as Boulder, where environmentalism is everything. Adams has a significant organized labor element, which is a good base for Joan.  This one is fun to watch.

      3. but I think your point about Republicans ceding the district is spot on. The problem is, they’ve got no bench in the 2nd District.

        Petitioning isn’t the sign of weakness it once might have been. Witness Coffman’s route this year. In these three- (or four-) way races, it’s a way to ensure you’ve got multiple candidates on the ballot and divide the opposition. Historically, the “party cadre” in the 2nd District hasn’t had a cohesive identity separate from the congressman — it’s been a Wirth, Skaggs or Udall organization (unlike, say, the 1st or 5th district party groups, which seem to exist apart from whoever’s in Congress).

        I’d peg the split this way: FitzGerald gets the Mondale-Dukakis vote, Polis gets the Tsongas-Bradley vote and Shafroth gets the Hart-Gore vote. I’d say it’s a pretty even split. I think it comes down to personality, and there Shafroth has an edge if his media campaign is as smart and endearing as WTB suggests.

      4. I think a Republican would have a very hard time as most of the independents in this are vote a straight Democratic ticket. They aren’t Dems because they party is too far to the right for them, not too far to the left.

        As to who wins, here’s my guess today – Will & Joan split the votes from the Boulder machine, which is a gigant chunk of the total. Jared pulls from his own base which he has built up. And in that scenario Jared wins.

        It’s interesting, Will appears to have the unofficial support of the Boulder Democratic machine. But it’s not official as Joan carries a lot of weight. So it depends on how public the machine is with their support as quiet support does not move as much of the mass.

        A gigant indicator will be the Sierra Club endorsement. For the city council election it was their slate winning every seat. So they probably will decide the winner in the city of Boulder.

        But the further someone is from the city limits, the less influence they have. And CD-2 is much bigger than just the city.

        1. I bet they stay out in the primary.  They’ll endorse the winner, obviously.  (Kinda like the SuperDelegates waiting one more month to go for Obama?)

          DT, you’re the only analyst(? haha) predicting a scenario for a Polis win, so go on ya for sticking your neck out.  I can’t forsee that possibility because I can’t see a scenario where the most likely duo split is Joan v. Will.  What would they be splitting?  They have barely acknowledged each other in the race so far (that will change, obviously).  FWIW, from my word of mouth, man on the street polling, Jared has big name recognition in Boulder, much bigger than Joan, and not least because of his self-aggrandizing pre-Congressional race mass mailings.  

          1. If the Sierra Club doesn’t tell them? We may see some very confused people at the polls here.

            Will does seem to have the Boulder Political elite behind him. But they seem to be doing it very quietly so I don’t know how much that will carry.

            1. but the BPE (Boulder political elite) has two months to personally contact every Democrat in Boulder, make them a smoothie and take their dog for a walk. The turnout is going to be very small (it’s the only race on the ballot), so it’s not a matter of persuading the vast middle but identifying and turning out your supporters. That’s a very different election than one on a crowded ballot.

              1. We also have Cindy Carlisle vs Rollie Heath. Rollie also has the BPE, or at least all those above “a certain age.” Cindy has a fired up base.

                My guess is Cindy wins that one for the same reason Jared wins CD-2.

                1. in the state senate race is also going to have a strong preference in the congressional primary. So, yeah, thanks for catching that, some precincts in the 2nd CD will have something else on the ballot, but what I said still holds.  

  5. Registering new voters at the Boulder Creek Fest on monday and I saw one of Shafroth’s volunteers working.  He was doing pretty well, but as I walked by with my clipboard, the person who was signing this petition at the time waved me over and told me they needed to register to vote.  I registered them no problem, but is their signature still valid on the petition, seeing as their registration wont be processed for a few days, and more importantly, how many others are not registered voters?

  6. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

    I am stunned that there are 44 posts here and more than ten people who care about this.  The reality is that everyone who cares about this in any way has written on this post.  Don’t delude yourselves.  This is absolutely meaningless.  Most people sign petitions not knowing and never having any intention to be bound to vote for that person come August.

    I understand the value of adding 4,600 names to your mail list, but I bet there aren’t a thousand who are actually supporting Shafroth the rest are just the average Joe who will decide who to vote for just like the rest of the district.

    Oh, by the way, the real question is what idiot in the campaign let it waste volunteer hours of a huge magnitude on such a worthless effort.  It would have cost about $5,000 to get enough signatures to get on the ballot.  Out of a million that he supposedly has, that’s nothing.

    Why weren’t his volunteers doing much more important things?

    To me this is an issue of the campaign showing its lack of knowledge and inablility to properly prioritize the use of its resources.  

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