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February 10, 2014 06:29 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"I don't want to believe my own hype."

–Christina Aguilera

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27 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. A question and a plea on the gifted students bill.

    1. How does it cost 4.2 million to require that gifted education directors have specific credentials?
    2. Make sure that gifted education is not "harder homework" as that just turns gifted students off. The education needs to be very heavily project based with problems that are complex and interesting.

    We do desperately need to provide a good education for our gifted students. The trick is doing so effectively, not just having some check boxes where we're spending money, have people responsible for it with good titles, and yet don't improve things for the kids.

    1. Wait – Colorado doesn't screen all of its kids? How is this? Sometimes as a non-native I find myself looking for the nearest convenient wall to bang my head against when I find out something about my adopted state; this is one of those.

      And if you're not familiar with gifted education, it isn't "harder homework" – at least not if the program is competently administered. The student still has to focus on core learning (though at least in my experience gifted students were put in advanced classes where applicable), but they receive additional classes (e.g. in place of study hall time).

      Each gifted student is given an IEP based on their skills and interests. (In this way, it mirrors the special ed program.) At younger ages, there might not be as strong a reliance on the IEP – e.g. there might be a class period for gifted students where they get to explore things as a group that aren't in the regular class schedule. As you get older and your interests and skills become more apparent, the IEP takes over and the gifted class time becomes more individualized – or perhaps team oriented if several students have similar IEPs.

      1. I know first hand that here in Boulder (BVSD) the gifted programs were pretty poor and just harder homework 10 years ago. Fairview High School was decent but elementary & middle school were pretty worthless.

        1. If that's really the case, then those schools weren't following anything resembling a real gifted education program.

          My description comes from 30 years ago when I was in school. As one of my IEP tasks, I wrote what I believe was the first ever IEP software program; it was a far cry from the currently available software, but it did give me a teacher's exposure to the system.

          PS – I didn't consider the advanced track core classes to be either "harder homework" or part of my gifted education – they were regular school for more advanced students, some of whom were gifted and others who were not. IEP based education was separate.

  2. From a preview of a Pennsylvania US House race:

    In a year in which Democrats have had a hard time attracting quality candidates for House races — a common occurrence for both parties when they know their chances are slim to win a majority — this race has attracted four qualified candidates.

    Read more: http://triblive.com/opinion/salena/5547613-74/democrats-race-seat#ixzz2sw01mvZh 
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    There must be a reason for the senior Dem house members laeving.

    1. "There must be a reason for the senior Dem house members laeving [sic]."

      Um, yes – Rep. Schwartz is leaving to run for PA Governor, looking to oust Republican Gov. Corbett, who is not very popular at home. I believe she's considered the front-runner, and is polling comfortably ahead of Corbett.

      Your point?

        1. You might have said so rather than pointing to Schwartz's retirement.

          Waxman and Miller are both 40-year Congressional veterans, swept in after the Watergate scandal. Some people actually retire when they get to that age – I don't blame them. Nor would I blame them if they retired because they felt they weren't going to get a more co-operative Congress in the next term.

          Both of those seats are reliably Democratic (unless infighting manages to flub them under California's idiotic top-two plurality open primary system); their retirements won't change anything politically.

    2. Sure there's a reason . . . 

      . . . yet two more jobs that Obamacare's killed (. . . that's like 14,000,000 jobs and counting in Colorado alone so far this week, isn't it??? . . . )

      . . . or was it Mark Udall?

      . . . or the Confederacy?

      You're starting to stray from your talking points, AC . . . 

    1. Still trying to get another rise out of that old Soros crap? Really, AC. So yesterday's meme. More like last decade's than yesterday's. If that and the whole Udall lied/ACA constellation of spin is all you've got, I feel better about the 2014 elections here in Colorado already. Thanks AC. 

  3. Fort Collins HS told students the could not have a 'Merica Monday for spirit week, because 'Merica is often used as a derogatory slang to make fun of ignorant, prideful, right-wing, patriotic Americans. They instead have America Day.

    A few people who are upset that 'Merica day got cancelled (they believe the school leadership was too weak to show patriotism) decided to protest with the a gaudy display of American flags. Fail to see irony.

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/protests-planned-at-fort-collins-high-school-over-merica-day-cancellation-monday-is-america-day02102014

      1. Fact checking as an integral part of journalism is so yesterday. Modern journalism, especially where mid size and small city newspapers are concerned, seems to amount to passing along press releases. I also notice more errors that make it clear the only editing was done by spell check which will allow any word that's spelled correctly to stand even if it's clearly the wrong word. Newspaper reading used to be recommended to immigrants learning English. Increasingly, that's not such a great idea.

  4. @Miss Jane, et.al.

    The "merica incident" is part of the right wing media campaign that began, of course, on the boyles show and was echoed throughout the talk radio local circuit.  The principal was seen as "backing down" in the face of the "real patriots."  Most importantly, this is now being touted as another in a string of propaganda victories for the "right thinking conservatives" in Colorado…..that goes back to the "gift boxes for a Protestant church at a public school; the bakery, the Duck Dynasty, and now the high school in Fort Collins.  So accuracy is not important; what is important is the media campaign.  The right wing conservatives are so good, that they probably don't even have to coordinate…they all hear the "dog whistles."  This is one of the real advantages of controlling the local radio talk shows. boyles is a very good community organizator…..he congratulates his audience all the time for their victories….tells them that they are winning, little by little, …this is tremendously reinforcing.  There have also been the election victories…two recalls, one forced resignation and the defeat of #66 to say nothing of the takeover of the Jefferson County School Board…….Everybody wants to be on the winning side…

    Now, mj55 and her team have been successful in getting the Chieftain to clarify statements on the gun control issue.  However, the correction came months after the recall election had been lost by the Democrats.

    1. Sadly, you are all too correct.   Journalism has had a checkered past.  And people have a real need to have what they want to believe confirmed and validated, whether it is true or not.  And there are those who are all too willing to take advantage of that.  Boyles could put the proverbial bridge up for sale and get some bids from the gullible.

      1. Evidently, 150 "patriots" showed up at the school, waving flags to show "support" for the students and America. Another victory for bizzare misinformation. 

  5. I spoke with my House Rep this morning nd she says that they have been told at least 150 people will testify in the House State Affairs cmte today regarding 1151 (repeal magazine limits). 

  6. Finally, some good news this month!!

    http://nyti.ms/1eJBnBk

    Twenty-two militants attending a suicide bombing training were killed when a commander mistakenly used an armed belt during a demonstration.

     

    ( . . . and, yes, we know AC, another 22 jobs lost to Obamacare , , . )

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