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January 31, 2014 06:09 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

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      1. I'm sure that poster will be very popular at the GOP retirement/concession parties next election night.

        They'll still be wondering why all those voters that finally got affordable health coverage didn't vote for Republicans.

        Or why Hispanics that didn't like the GOP punitive immigration policies didn't vote for them.

        Or why women still aren't flocking to the Republican Party so they don't have to worry their pretty little heads over making decisions for themselves.

        1. Speaking of immigration, a Republican admits that there is a racist dimension to  their failure to pass an immigration bill.

          I don't think it's just immigration that's bring the racist elemnents out in force, but a larger fear that somehow the country is in trouble because angry,old white guys won't be the majority demographic forever. 

           

          1. The party of the Confederacy claiming Republicans are racist.  

            How are blacks doing economically under Obama?  

            Going backwards.  The truth hurts.

            1. So, are you claiming to be the party of this particular Lincoln? The one who had this to say after passage of the National Banking Act of 1863?

              "Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working on the prejudices of the people, until the wealth of the nation is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed."

              Going backwards hurts, don't it?

  1. In the interest of fairness, we probably should give equal time to the Republican respondent. Ladies and gentlemen (and fools of the Republican persuasion) — let me introduce you to Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers . . . 

    http://nyti.ms/1fnb0yR NYTimes: When Biography Trumps Substance

    1. Wow!  The disconnect between Reality and the GOP platform couldn't be any wider:

      Lucky for the people in Eastern Washington they live in a state that has extended Medicaid to working poor and consistently raised its minimum wage. This would not happen if Republicans governed as they preach.

      So, McMorris Rodgers clearly votes against the welfare of her constituents — no surprise there. That’s the “What’s the Matter With Kansas” premise, based on the Thomas Frank book documenting how poor whites choose cultural and social issues over economic ones at the ballot box.

      What doesn’t make sense is how McMorris Rodgers is so full of animus toward the leading employer of her county, government. Yes, she protects the Air Force base here, as if it’s not really government, and payments to wealthy wheat farmers. But every other form of federal outlay is demonized.

  2. Is the Republican Governor wagon coming to a crashing halt? With Gov. Chris Christie taking continuing incoming legal fire from those he has screwed over in the name of creating a New Jersey Watergate, and Gov. Rick Scott caught up in a new Medicaid scandal (the historically astute reader will remember that Scott's company was caught in a huge Medicare/Medicaid fraud scandal before he became governor), we now have to put Gov. Scott Walker back on the list.

    Walker's time in Milwaukee was marred with fraud, and six of his close subordinates were convicted or pled guilty in an investigation that started several years ago. The investigation uncovered what looked to be campaign shenanigans – hidden email servers inside Walker's office, etc.. But the investigation shut down without filing any charges. Apparently the reason for that is the byzantine Wisconsin law requiring such charges be filed in the perp's home county rather than wherever the crime was committed. It has since been revealed that a new investigation started up, involving the DAs from at least five counties and headed by a special prosecutor. The target: Gov. Walker and a number of right-wing "support groups" including the Wisconsing Club for Growth. The target groups have objected strongly (i.e. legally) to the investigation, and local right-wing media there are attacking the (bipartisan) investigation as a witch hunt. Looks like they're on to something… Today, an appeals court upheld the investigation's authority – the investigation will continue.

      1. Was Virginia the beginning of the end for Republican gubernatorial dominance? Anyone looking for a next GOTP Guv of New Jersey? Will we have to wait until next election or will Christie be indicted first? The GOTP Guv in Florida is pretty wildly unpopular. Pass the popcorn.

              1. Definitely a possibility — Nevada's Lt. Governor just quit the GOP in disgust.  In other happy news:

                HuffPost Pollster's latest compilation of 57 publicly available polls shows that the Republican Party's favorable rating has decreased steadily over the past two years. Back in January 2012, 43.3 percent viewed the GOP unfavorably. As of January 27, 2014, that number ballooned to 66.4 percent.

                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/31/neena-laxalt-gop_n_4704296.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

                1. Davie, I think you are right.  Everything is breaking the Dems way.  Obamacare, masterful rollout.  The economy, we have almost as many people holding jobs now as when Jimmie Carter was President.  Real wages down, but not for the ruling class.  Bennet and Udall are doing just fine.  About the 335,000 folks in Colorado who lost their health insurance plan, they all think Udall is looking out for them.

                  1. Yeah, I really miss Reagan and Bush running up mult-trillion dollar deficits to write checks to their billionaire buddies, funding terrorism by starting unnecessary wars, killing millions in the name of bringing democracy to the heathen.

                    Why wouldn't I want a narcissitic megalomaniac like Ted Cruz running our nation?

                    How foolish of me to expect more from our government?

                  2. You do know you're such a predictable slave to your spin machine any one of us could write your comments for you. No wonder independent thnking is such a shocker for you.

              2. What do today's numbers have to do with my comment about future prospects? And the the Confederacy remark was cute but everyone knows the positions of the two parties have flipped on racial matters ever since the states of the former confederacy were turned red via GOP exploitation of racist resistance to integration and civil rights and the exodus of the racist Dixiecrats to the racist friendly GOP. 

                Take a look at your party's convention attendees, not just the folks picked for the podium and photo ops, and a Dem convention's. Take a look at every congressional GOTP all white male (even on women's health issues) panel. 

                lf Lincoln were alive today he certainly wouldn't be welcome in the Republican Party.  Neither wood TR but for different reasons. Pretty much none of your former Presidents would be able to get through one of your clown show primaries today. 

                Today's GOTP is the party of the former Confederacy. You really haven't noticed? There are lots of political maps available.

          1. Does that make you happy, calling Democrats the "party of the Confederacy"? 'cause last I checked, the defection of the Dixiecrats to the GOP is the reason Republicans have that dominance and the crappy racist undercurrent that goes along with them. (It's down to 29-21 as of this past year's elections, FWIW…)

            I think we shouldn't kid ourselves: conservatives hold sway in a majority of the landmass of this country, including a majority of states. Those states don't, by and large, have a lot of people in them, but that's the way our mixed government setup works. Until the South and Midwest leave the sway of ultra-conservative, often racist, often nativist, and often fundamentalist viewpoints, we will continue to have a situation where the majority of governorships are more conservative than the majority of the people.

  3. Supreme Court Chief "Justice" John Roberts' F*ck You note to the poor:

    Thanks to a Supreme Court ruling and staunch Republican resistance, Marc Alphonse, an unemployed 40-year-old Marine veteran who is essentially homeless, cannot get health insurance under Obamacare.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/31/florida-medicaid-uninsured_n_4680566.html

    Rest assured, John Boehner and the GOP-controlled House won't do a damn thing to help either.

    1. The New Jersey Governor has his supporters so I'm not sure he's done for yet. However, if this allegation turns out to be true it's game over for any future political aspirations (e.g. running for president). Beyond that it's hard to know what the fallout would be: would he be forced to resign, or face a criminal indictment? I don't know. 

      1. I think the presidential thing was already over.  I don't know where it goes from here criminally or politically.  There are too many investigations going on right now to know what's ultimately going to come out of it.

        I'm surprised that none of our Colorado righties who voted against Sandy aid are jumping up and down about the allegations of misappropriation of some of that money by the Christie administration.  IOKIYAR, I guess.

        1. Ralphie wrote: I think the presidential thing was already over.  I don't know where it goes from here criminally or politically.  There are too many investigations going on right now to know what's ultimately going to come out of it.

          You could be right on presidential ambitions being over already–cooperating with President Obama on hurricane relief didn't win Christie points with the wingut base who thinks you should never ever show the President any respect.  Being governor of a Blue State is going to call his "authenticity" into question as well.

          I don't know whether what he did was illegally or merely sleazy–but technically not against the law. Christie, after all,  has a history of behavior that falls into a gray area between illegal and unethical (but legal).  

          Human nature being what it is, people blow the whistle and leak information for variety of reasons. Sometimes it is because they have a genuine moral compass, but leaking and whistleblowing are often the result of a falling out. Did this Port Authority Official have a falling out with Christie? If so, it doesn't necessarily negate the allegations, they could very well stilll be true, but it's worth considering.  

          1. The linked article seems pretty clear that Christie is telling his old high school buddy to "fall on your sword" and the former Port Authority official is saying "you first".

            Christie is a former prosecutor, so he knows that lying at a press conference is one thing; perjuring himself in sworn testimony in front of a government proceeding is quite another.  He'll flail and flop, but won't go to jail.  But as Ralphie says, his Prez Dreams are toast.

            1. If Christie wanted his High School buddy to fall on his sword maybe he shouldn't have said the guy was somebody he hardly knew in High School, just an insignificant nobody while Christie was big man on campus.

              I do think his presidential ambitions were always a pipe dream. Never was going to fly with the Tea Party "real'' America crowd. Oh, and insignificant nobody is saying he's pretty sure Christie knew all about what was happening as it was happening.

              1. Assuming Christie knew, which is possible, the question is then going to become what did he know? Did he know that that there was a traffic jam, or did he know the whole traffic jam was orchestrated as retribution for his oppoennt not towing the line? The difference may seem slight but I think it's important.

                If Christie merely knew that there was a traffic jam but didn't know it was orchestrated, it mostly just proves his ineptitude as a manager; he would likely stay in office thorugh the end of his term. 

                If Christie knew that this traffic jam was being orchestrated, he's is going to have a lot more explaining to do to say the least.  I don't know what the laws in New Jersey are in terms of recalls or impeachment, so I can't say for sure whether he would be removed from office but I'd say it's a possibility here.
                 

                1. Most who know anything about him say he's very hands on. We already know that the traffic study that was the supposed explanation for the lane closings was a fiction and it looks less and less likely he didn't know perfectly well that there was no real traffic study long before  that presser where he claimed  he had no idea anything fishy was going on.

                  We'll just have to wait and see. But the way the stories are coming out from various mayors about various incidents in which they felt pressured to toe the line if they expected to get things their towns needed, many of the stories with witnesses and e-mails backing them up, it looks less and less like he was telling the truth at his I'm so shocked presser. 

                  This isn't a red state, after all. He is where he is because he got a lot of support from Dem voters, not because it's a state where a Republican pet rock would beat any Dem or with a pet legislature or allies in every office and agency that will be investigating the growing number of incidents coming under scrutiny. I'm leaning toward put a fork in it done politically with at least the possibility of indictment.

                   

          2. Since we aren't 100 percent sure of what was done, it's premature to suggest that it's technically not against the law.  There are some allegations out there that are sure as shit against the law.  Let's see how the investigations pan out.

            1. I kinda think, Ralphie, that we haven't yet seen the "thing" that will bring Christie down. There are likely several more improprieties to be discovered, particularly involving the organization that was overseeing the "Sandy" funds.

              Anyone believe that Christie and friends weren't helping themselves to that gigantic pot of money?

              1. I think they weren't necessarily helping themselves to it, but they certainly seem to have been passing along to friends and allies.  The national media hasn't picked up on Ash-Britt or the way funds were handed out in Belleville (not hit particularly hard by Sandy).  They also haven't really picked up on the secret firing of the contractor who was in charge of handing out Sandy money.  I read the NJ papers every day since I was born and raised there.  There's a lot of smoke there.  I think the U.S. Attorney will probably find some fire.

    2. Both the Gov and Lt. Gov are history. Both needs to resign en-masse so the Speaker can take Christie's spot and start kicking Republican butt so severely…..

    3. Latest Christie scandal:

      Christie vetoed a transparency law that would have allowed citizen oversight on how Sandy funds were spent, then awarded the weakened monitoring contract  for "integrity monitors"  (for 6 million $$) to buddies who did a crappy job of it!  The buddies only put up websites this January, and it's apparently almost impossible to actually look up contracts and how funds are spent.

      So, yes….even the monitoring for how Sandy funds were spent  was bungled and corrupt.  The State Treasury department awarded contracts to IT firms, which don't actually publish the information on contracts, and weren't even in place until a year after the storm. 

      Meanwhile, many low-income people are homeless, living in hotels or shelters or couch-surfing.  Sandy survivors still homeless a year later. Photo by Pearl Gabel, New York Daily News, article dated  "Hurricane Sandy, one year later: More than 200 city storm survivors are still without a home" Check out the hateful and judgmental comments on this story, as well.
      Sandy survivors, still homeless one year later, while Christie makes political points. Grrrr. This pisses me off. I say let Christie swing in the wind, whether he actually knew about the bridge closure, or not.  He oversaw a completely corrupt system. He's obviously tried to use the storm for political points, and treated his own population callously.

      Perhaps only a research dork like myself would appreciate how difficult they made it to look up how funding was spent. This is the lead story  from today (Feb 1, 2014) on Up with Steve Kornacki. http://www.msnbc.com/up-with-steve-kornacki

  4. This is so cool. Most of the freshmen C.S. students at Hartnell College are participating in tomorrow's code war.

    Hartnell serves nearly 10,000 students (7,100 FTES) with an ethnic profile that includes 56% Latino/a, 19% White, 4% Asian, 3% Filipino, 2% Black, 1% Native American students, and 1% multi-ethnic. (16% of students did not report ethnicity). Hartnell has thus earned the federal designation as an Hispanic Serving Institution, and this year was awarded two major Title V grants to improve student access and success for underrepresented groups in the STEM disciplines.

      1. Wait a minute.

        I have a couple of questions for you, JB.

        How old is our planet?

        Did humans evolve or were we created by God in the Garden of Eden?

        You are lauding the scientific focus of the program you cite. That would indicate that you believe in the scientific method…or is science only for technology and commerce?

        I want to see you take a stand here…you can't have it both ways.

        1. Age of the planet? I don't know – old. 

          Well- both could be true, but I believe that the creation story in Genesis is allegorical or metaphorical or something ical.  But it's not literal.

          Scientific method has blind spots and flaws  – it makes mistakes too – but it's the best way yet devised by humans to determine what is true from anything else. And that makes it useful when trying to predict the future, make good choices and avoid negative outcomes.

          I think you have mistaken me for someone else?  I love science – gravity and time most of all. (Highly reccomend The Five Fists of Science – graphic novel. More time travel than gravity…but really, isn't gravity everywhere, always?)

          I have no probllem with God as theoretical construct. I do find it useful to think on whether it most likley God created us, or we created God.  If the former, science is the way to deeper understanding of how, if not why.  If the latter – sceince is the way to deeper understanding of how and why we are how we evolved to be how we are.

          That said- just because I started commenting here, I counted back to my first presidential vote – McGovern was such a better choice. It still boggles the mind 40+ years later. But 11 elections 7/4  D.  I would need some time with Wiki or the green pages to research the other elections – but I suspect a more even split or a slight R edge.  But I hate politics because it brings out the wrost in people.  We are neighbors- and partisan affiliation is such a small part of our lives, most of us have FAR more in common than not, no matter the affiliation.

          That said, sometimes I do favor one partyover another- and if both have bad candidates, well I still vote. 

           

          1. I think you have mistaken me for someone else?

            Nah…just trying to learn more about you so I DON'T mistake you for someone else. It appears, then, that you are not a fundamentalist Christian. Is that a fair assessment?

            1. I always associate that with Baptists. Or snake charming, toungue speaking Pentacostals.

              No – I would not self identiy that way. And while raised in the one true Holy Roman Catholic and apostolic church, I wouldn't self identify that way either.

              FWIW- back on 2010, I thought by 2012 I'd be able to get behind the R candidate.  But I never thought they would nominate Romney. Even in the Spring of 12 I was consistently surprised by Romney primary victories.

          2. Interesting bio, JB.  I'm definitely to the left of you, but also voted in my first election for McGovern.

            Agree with much of what you say re: science (except I'll accept the preponderance of evidence that the world is 4.5 billion years old and the universe almost 14 billion years old).  And I worry less about whether or not there is a God.  He/She understands my position, and if not, then He/She isn't all they are cracked up to be, right?

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