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I think my church teaches that God mostly works through human hands.
While I’m quite sure that God opposes this invasion of Iraq, for example,
he leaves it up to you and to me to stop it.
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I don’t know Hebrew, but my knowledge of Biblical research and translation puts that commandment as meaning, “Don’t go around killing one another, homeboys. But those goyem? No problemo.”
As one who has spent many years (and $$$)studying religion and religious philosphy, I am consistently amazed at the logical inconsistencies in most “reasoning” about God.
The Holy Spirit that Jeanne Assam felt guided her was a lousy marksman. The perp wasn’t killed by her shot, although apparently wounded. By that logic, that same Holy Spirit should have been pushing the perp’s gun aside when he tried to kill innocents.
The 1981 book by Rabbi Harold Kushner, When Bad Things Happen to Good People, has the most consistent, rational theology about evil. And it takes an understanding that runs counter to most religions. God cannot simultaneously be omniscent, merciful, and all-powerful. He says drop the all-powerful, and now we have a god of compassion but that can’t stop a bullet or a disease because they follow laws of physics.
The book is an easy read, but you can find the video of a lecture on the same points at the DPL.
One of the best books I’ve ever read on the topic.
And the only one that makes total sense.
It was turned down by two or three publishers.
As a chaplain, it was my foundation. More practical advice than all my theology training.
I have recommended this debate on BookTV between Christopher Hitchens and Dinesh D’Sousa before. (yeah, I know, get a life)
Hitchens is a renouned atheist. D’Sousa is a Christian (from India).
Hitchens makes the case that Christianity and religion in general is immoral. D’Sousa makes the case that western civilization’s characteristics are fundamentally based in new-Testament Christian principles.
Both are scary smart debaters and thinkers that leaves one thinking “How did he get that smart?”
Here’s the link:
http://www.booktv.org/program….
I’d also point out that while loads of people have been killed in God’s name, the champion killers in our time have been secular — and I would point out leftist, totalitarian — governments. Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Milosevec, Tito, Kim Il-sung, Tojo.
Hitler very much felt that he had been selected by God. The major church bodies endorsed the party, and the party had its own bishop.
Hitler wasn’t religious but he got the support of all of Germany’s institutions of power, and that included Protestant and Catholic churches.
But never foret that fascism is a right wing ideology. BP, you must know next to nothing about these governments if you’re going to characterize them as “leftist.”
Not America’s Right Wing.
What the Nazis have in common with modern leftists is their shared belief in government control.
That government should run or control major industries, health care, food distribution, transport.
Neither the American right or left are Nazi’s.
Those American leftists that claim President Bush’s lawful use of surveillance of foreign suspects is akin to Hitler, have no serious comparison skills, or a lack of knowledge about the respective tactics.
Come on.
Sure, Pol Pot and Mao were leftists. But to claim that Hitler was left because he used government is bullshit. You must stand pretty much alone on that perspective.
Hitler was not invoking egalitarianism or redistribution of wealth, leftist goals. No, he wanted business to run government, i.e., fascist. At one point representatives to the Reichstage changed from elected to whomever the business leaders of the communities were.
That’s leftist?
Oh, BTW, maybe you never got the word. Even Bush admitted that he was using illegal wiretaps. Where were you?
Try again. What did I say, (not what you read into it, but actually say that is not 100% accurate) I said:
All true factual statements.
I never claimed Hitler was a communist, but he was a socialist (Ever heard of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party – NAZI party.)
Hitler was many things including a fascist, narcissistic sadist. But not much better or worse than Joesph Stalin. Totalitarians are equally bad news left or right.
Referring to right and left as it applies to european politics of the 20th or even 21st century is not a direct equivalent to American politics. Some similarities granted, but not equivalent.
Your President (and mine) George W. Bush is not a totalitarian, a fascist or a socialist.
Exactly my thinking.
Once again, you can’t read straight. Did I say that Hitler’s regime and US conservatives are similar? I did not. You seem to think so.
I made my case about Hitler being a right winger. Flavor, no, not conservative. But right winger. Extreme rightism or leftism always leads to totalitarianism. And to say that Hitler got there through the left?
No wonder you are an RR worshiper. You ignore facts and create your own selective history.
We are saying very nearly the same thing from different points of view. Re-read both your and my posts and you will see it if you look.
I never said and don’t think that all liberals are communists, or even necessary avid socialists.
If you can’t see that, then you’re an ideologue and not a patriot.
Recall your history that Hitler and Stalin formed an alliance to invade Poland. That did not happen because they are political opposites (e.g., right wing v left wing). Both were ideologies that put the state before the individual and sought state control of most aspects of life and business. That’s more akin to left wing than right wing were I come from.
Here’s what Hitler said about Communists:
“[T]here is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will.”
but not history.
No, it happened because they both were old school imperialists who wanted to repartition Poland. It also happened because the western allies failed to form an alliance with the USSR, who did make overtures to Britain and France before going to Germany.
You may think government control is a left wing thing, but the evidence of fascism tells me that it transcends left vs right. That’s why there’s a 2D plot measuring political positions, not just the 1D measure that’s more appealing to simpletons.
or which was worse. This was about how a Christian could say with a straight face, “Where does this idea that God promotes violence come from?”
And the answer, of course, is “Umm. From your religion’s history.”
Why bring up Hitler?