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December 18, 2007 02:15 AM UTC

At Least You Can Still Vote Here

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Our voting machine works. Sadly, most others in Colorado do not.

From The Denver Post:

A significant number of electronic voting machines in use in Colorado aren’t reliable enough or secure enough for compliance with state laws, Colorado Secretary of State said today.

“The results today will have national repercussions across the country,” Coffman said during a press conference.

Coffman announced that his office had determined that Sequia’s electronic voting machines, the Edge II and the Edge II Plus, both failed due to security risk factors. He said the optical scan devices, eScan and BallotNow, manufactured by Hart showed they could not accurately count ballots.

ES&S optical scan devices also failed because of inability to determine if the devices worked properly. That manufacturer’s electronic voting machine, iVotronic, also failed because it can be easily disabled by voters. That system also lacked an audit trail.

A meeting is scheduled for Tuesday at 9 a.m. at the state Capitol with Coffman and key legislators to discuss the issue and come up with solutions.

Coffman’s announcement means counties across the state either will have to come up with alternative voting systems in time for the 2008 presidential election or somehow convince Coffman to change his mind. Coffman said the 2008 presidential election likely will be handled far differently than past elections.

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  1. Not the decertification – that seems to be a common action in a lot of states now.

    The trouble is that all of the Diebold/Premier systems passed when they have been consistently the worst performers in other audits, and that all of the optical scanners were flunked for “inaccurate counting”, which is a charge I’ve never heard from the other audits.

    I am very concerned and hope “key legislators” ask questions as well as propose solutions.

    There’s always good old-fashioned hand-counting…

    1. and vice versa.

      It’s weird.  I think there’s a case for decertifying most of this equipment, but Coffman’s choices don’t align with other state’s findings.  Nearly the opposite.

      Plus, he took so long (partly Gigi Dennis’ fault), it’s unreasonable to expect new certified equipment by August.  This is going to be ugly.

  2. This is crap.  I am really concerned that many decisions being made in the SOS office are being driven by politics and not the sanctity of the electoral process.

    Why has Diebold the favored electoral machine company getting favored treatment by the SOS?

    So County Clerks can now just punt?

    I hope all who voted for this joke as a SOS are happy, particularly when they cannot hold an election in 2008

  3. See the RMN article:  http://www.rockymountainnews.c

    There are a number of large counties affected by this ruling.  Are we getting to the point in this country that voting by individual citizens is just not that important?  Are we slowly giving up the right to elect our leaders and vote on ballot issues?  Are we content that “someone else” is going to make those important decisions for us?  It’s one thing for the vote counting to be challenged in a particular locale, but for our SOS to wholesale decertify the machinery of elections is rather frightening.

  4. Not just these, but generally?

    I figure they go to third world countries where the people don’t expect an accurate vote anyway.  

    “President for Life Swisbancoun announces an overwhelming approval of his policies.”

    1. but, not being one to pay attention to this stuff all that closely, I have to wonder why we embrace technology in literally every other arena of life…but not voting.  When I bother to think about it, it boggles my mind; hence, the reason I try not to think about it all that much…

      1. You accept the fact that lines drop, connections are bad, calls sometimes fail – but what you get for the price is worth it. A lot of software falls in that category, it’s imperfect but it’s not worth the cost of making it perfect.

        Now look at medical equipment, airplanes, voting. In those places failure is a very expensive issue and the effort needs to be made to make the software perfect.

        Well, for medical equipment and flight software, extraordinary effort is put in to insure 99.9999% perfection. And it achieves that goal.

        But for voting software, it’s the people who weren’t good enough for the cell phone software writing it. No one dies (not directly anyways) when they screw it up so you have buggy imperfect software in use for voting machines.

        And by and large running on an operating system (Windows or Linux) that would never be allowed in any piece of medical equipment, airplane, nuclear reactor, etc.

  5. And we know that how?  How valid were those elections last month in Denver? Deadline has passed for losing candidates to protest – a very expensive process….to protest.  Very expensive to pay those increased taxes…what a gd mess.

    Diebold…isn’t that Bush’s guy who said he was commited to getting Bush elected?

    1. The machines that are the subject of this de-certification are the touch-screens we used in 2006, which had a host of other problems.

      In the 2007 elections in Denver these were all-mail ballot elections so the only “machines” which were used were the scanners that count paper ballots. Denver’s version of that machine was not among the de-certified.

      Furthermore, an audit of the election done aftrewards matched 100% what was written on the paper ballots to what he scanners read.

      So I have a very high degree of confidence that those ballots that arrived at the County Clerk’s Office were counted accurately.

      There will be a bill in this upcoming legislature session to hold the 2008 elections also as all-mail ballot elections. That will get around the de-certification problem in most counties.

      1. I appreciate the clarification.  But, there have been problems with the optical scanners.  Tell us more about the audit which was done after the 2007 elections. Who did the audit? And how were audits done? By hand and eye?  If we indeed had a paper trail, that is really important information.  But I can’t understand the mechanics.  

        1. The audit is done by checking a small percent (1 or 2 I believe) of the ballots. Which ones that are checked are selected by a random selection process administered by the Sec. of State. There is some criteria for the “random sample”. All races and all ballot styles must be included. In an all mail election, the ramdom sample will say something like “verify the City Council district 3 race on batch 37”.

          The selected ballots are then counted by hand and the results of that count is compared to how the same ballots were counted by the optical scanner. If they match, groovy. If they do not, a fuller audit of all the ballots must take place (this has never happened in Denver).

          Hope this clears the water a bit.

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