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November 30, 2007 08:11 PM UTC

Doug Bruce Doesn't Play Nice

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  • by: Colorado Pols

As the Colorado Springs Gazette reports:

Legislative candidate Douglas Bruce criticized rival Reginald Perry on Thursday for claiming in campaign literature that he is an electrical engineer despite not holding a license in the field.

In the first public dust-up between them, Perry shot back that many practicing engineers do not have a license and that such accusations are “childish” and “immature.”

Bruce and Perry are vying along with a third Republican for the northeastern Colorado Springs House seat being vacated by Rep. Bill Cadman, who was chosen to fill the post of recently retired Sen. Ron May…

Perry sent a letter last week to committee members outlining his positions on various issues. In discussing alternative energy, he wrote: “As an electrical engineer, I believe we must rely on science, not politically charged arguments, as we address the serious issue of our energy use, conservation and independence.”

The 46-year-old Army veteran received his bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering in December…

Perry noted that being licensed requires working at least four years under a certified engineer – something he said he hopes to do. But his degree and experience still qualify him to be called an electrical engineer, he said.

We’re pretty sure Perry is right on the technicality, not like that’s going to slow down Bruce. As anyone who’s ever chest-thumped with this man knows, he doesn’t win things with his smile.

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21 thoughts on “Doug Bruce Doesn’t Play Nice

      1.    With any luck, Doug Bruce will be taking the show on the road to Denver next month!

          I want to see him elected House Minority Leader….

  1. I’ve been reading this blog for a couple years now but only now registered to comment since I actually have something factual to contribute.

    This is the first (and probably last) time I will back up Doug Bruce, but as I read it, you have to have the 4 years experience and pass the professional engineering exam in order to use the term “electrical engineer.”  Refer to CRS 12-25-105 (3).  Of course, I am no lawyer, so consider your source, but I had to go through the 4 years of work and exam before I could call myself a civil engineer. Perry has only been working for just under a year after graduating; it’s the equivalent of a 1st-year med student writing a prescription.

    That being said, I agree that this is a pretty weak argument. Further, I completely agree with Perry’s statement to the replacement committee – and I can say that as a professional engineer! If only there were such rigorous requirements before one could take on other titles, like county commissioner, for example…

      1. I realize this is getting a little beyond the point of the initial posting, but, just to clarify, CRS 12-25-105 (3) says, with a little paraphrasing on my part:

        Unless licensed or exempted pursuant to this part 1, it is unlawful for any individual…to use any of the following titles: Civil engineer, structural engineer, chemical engineer, petroleum engineer, mining engineer, mechanical engineer, or electrical engineer.  Nothing in this subsection (3) shall prohibit the general use of the words “engineer”, “engineered”, and “engineering” so long as such words are not being used in an offer to the public to perform [professional] services.

        For the record, I didn’t actually define my political persuasions – I merely pointed out that I rather dislike Doug Bruce as a politician. It is a moot point, however, since my old district in Denver is represented by Anne McGihon, so I really don’t have any say in Doug’s district! It is nice to see a fellow engineer getting involved in politics (there are far too few of us who have the desire/social skills to do that, I fear) and if he can take down Doug, then so much the better.

        Thanks for the welcome. I may not always agree with some of the postings (not mentioning any names here) but it is really great to have a forum where both sides can be heard on most issues and ColoPols serves well keeping me informed while I temporarily reside outside of the state. On that note, the end of the day is approaching and the sound of happy hour is heard, so I must take my leave.

        1. Perhaps he broke the law by calling himself an electrical engineer per your quote, but then it continues and says that he can call himself an engineer as long as he isn’t offering services.

          Certainly not exact.

          And welcome aboard, you obviously have a lot to contribute!

        2. So he can probably say he has a degree in electrical engineering but can’t say he’s an electrical engineer.

          My degree is in Physics and I’m a programmer by trade and we’ve never had certification in either of those fields so I find this all a bit surprising.

          thanks for the pointer to the law and welcome aboard. You’ll find it’s much easier to join than to leave 🙂

        3. Thanks for taking the time to actually look up the statute.  That, in itself, makes your comments differ from many on this site.

          If you want to search Colorado statues, Lexis/Nexus is the official compiler of such things.  Here’s their web site:

          http://www2.michie.com/colorad

          If you want to search Colorado Administrative Regulations, they are compiled and posted by the Secretary of State at this web site:

          http://www.sos.state.co.us/CCR

          Both are readily searchable.

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