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November 06, 2007 05:03 PM UTC

Election Day Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols


Get your vote on. Just don’t mail your ballot.

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  1. Haven’t they been campaigning for a year or two already?

    This trend is cruel and unusual punishment for both the public and the major candidates. 

      1. Costs too much, too.

        And in the end, the folks in two tiny states give us their offering.  The system sucks.

        Somehow we did just fine with a shortened election season for over two hundred years, as do most nations on earth.

        1. Yes the system sucks!  Why do voters in 2 little states have so much more say they the rest of us? 

          Primaries should be prohibited until at least May.  And everyone should vote on the same day, or at perhaps in some rotating scheme over a month or so.

          1. there just isn’t a benefit to those two states going first all the time.  If all primaries were on the same day, then our presidential nominees would be chosen almost entirely by reactions to 30-second ad spots.  Not a state of affairs I look forward to.

            Someone (I forget who) suggested recently that dates for primaries and caucuses (cauci?) be chosen by random lottery, about 30 days before the first event.  This, I think, would be ane excellent idea.

            1. I think the proposal was, five regions, rotate which goes first, one state from the region goes first, followed by one from each of the other regions, and make the following rounds larger and more inclusive until the whole thing is done.

              It wouldn’t cut down much on flying, but it would remove the “first in the nation” race we have now.

              I don’t like any proposal which gives a single region pretty much complete control in any given cycle.

          2. Take the 5 states with the closest vote in the prev presidential election percentage wise. Order them from smallest to largest population. They go every 2 weeks over a 10 week period.

            Then let the rest go at any time they want starting 2 weeks after the 5th of the initial ones.

            This has the giant benefit of letting the states that determine the final winner make the primary choice. And it will tend to be states that are in the middle.

            – dave

          1. If we’re willing to spend that much per kid on costumes, can we get everyone involved in politics enough to spend some money there instead of having the candidates begging for it 2/365/24/7?

            I want my legislators legislating, not spending their life on the phone collecting cash.

  2. 22 candidates and 7 spots-
    with this many candidates, it hard to predict who is pulling votes from each other pool of votes… but here is my prediction for tonight. we will see what happens at 7pm at the Redfish tonight

    1.)Crystal Gray
    2.) Susan Osborne
    3.) Anqelique Espinoza
    4.) Ken Wilson
    5.) Lisa Morzal
    6.) Macon Cowles
    7.) Eugene Pearson

    wild cards
    -Matt Applebaum (high negs but high name id)
    -Shawn Coleman has come up very short the last 2 times, but got the Camera endorsment

    Any thoughts?

     

    1.   What do you mean it won’t be tabled?  Wasn’t it introduced and referred pro forma to Judiciary with instructions from the Speaker to leave it there?  Do you mean Conyers is holding a hearing on it?
        Cool……
       

      1. The REPUBLICANS voted along with some Democrats to debate it on the floor Right Now.  The motion to table debate failed.

        A second motion was brought to send the bill back to committee.  That vote succeeded, so H.R. 333 is now being referred (back) to the committee.

        I’m not sure if it’s going to languish in the corner like it did before, or if today’s action will drag it up from it’s moldy cubby hole…

        1. Cheney impeachment measure advances. Rep. Dennis Kucinich’s (D-OH) resolution to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney advanced in the House today due largely to the backing of House Republicans. Kucinich’s measure “failed to win the backing of the House leadership,” and when a vote came to table the impeachment resolution, conservatives voted against it before they voted for it:

          Midway through the vote, with instructions from the GOP leadership, Republicans one by one changed their votes from yes – to kill the resolution – to no, trying to force the chamber into a debate and an up-or-down vote on the proposal.

          At one point there were 290 votes to table. After the turnaround, the final vote was 251-162 against tabling, with 165 Republicans voting against it.

          “We’re going to help them out, to explain themselves,” said Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas. “We’re going to give them their day in court.”

            1. This was a great move…simply great.

              Allowing an impeachment resolution to stay on the floor (before refering it back) that the Speaker and the rest of Dem leadership is against…awesome.

              Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that Cheney and the gang will be in office until Jan 20, 2009…or until Dick drops dead.  End of story.

              I particularly love the part of Kucinich’s resolution that says Cheney is, “in violation of his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of vice president.”  Would that be the constitutional obligation to have a pulse?!

              Hopefully this will die a quick and silent death and the Dem leadership can get back to running Congress instead of being run around by Repubs…

              1. Kucinich’s resolution needs some serious work in committee – which is where it wound up (again) – but Conyers is instructed to keep the resolution bottled up and will not consider it.

                I don’t know the formal language, but Cheney has certainly committed acts which justify impeachment; I’m guessing Kucinich’s “execute the office of VP” language is the formal terminology he has to use to consider Cheney’s role in stovepiping false intelligence, etc.

                I doubt the resolution will go anywhere after today; one nice thing is, it’s been formally read into the Congressional Record now.

                1. Dem leaders didnt even want Kucinich’s Res to see the light of the House floor.  Problem is, Little Denny sprung a “Privileged Resolution” on them.  Ok, no big deal…or it shouldnt have been.

                  If my memory of asinine…I mean…parli-pro is correct, there was a hour of debate, evenly divided, on the resolution.  So, Denny gets to yammer on about the VP for 30mins, Steny moves to table, the bill dies.  They wont even have to send it to Conyers.  Happy Day!!  Ahhh…but John Boehner (or, Mick Krieger who I believe is still his chief of staff) realizes that Dems arent ready to have a full debate on impeaching Cheney.  Hell, Nancy and Steny are actually against it.

                  So, instead of talking about SCHIP or whatever issue Dems love this week, every question Dem leaders get for the rest of the week will be about impeaching Cheney.  Well done Repubs.

                  So on this, I do think Dems are getting run around by Repubs.

                  And here’s a link to the actual resolution if you or anyone else doesn’t have it. 
                  http://kucinich.hous

                  It’s very strangely put together (one might even say it sucks)…which I guess makes sense b/c neither Kucinich or anyone on his staff (as far as I recall) has a law degree…

                  1. Kucinich has some great ideas with some lousy execution, and some not so great ideas.  I give him points for going in the right direction, if not necessarily taking a good route to get there.  As to the motion itself, it doesn’t read like a formal article of impeachment motion – more like an attempt to get in as many points against Cheney as possible in a short period of time.  You’re right – it’s odd.

                    I don’t think there was an hour of debate – didn’t watch it myself, but I don’t think there was…; the resolution was read in to the record (twice – once for Kucinich, once during the tabling motion…); no debate was had because Steny made an immediate motion to table.

    1. but I’m the only one invited (okay, I might have a special guest – but just one).

      My earlier prediction about turnout in Denver has already gone by the boards.  Turnout hit 30% as of close of business Monday.  Will clearly go over that today, but by how much remains to be seen.  Still think it is low enough turnout to defeat some of the ballot measures in Denver.  Still think 1A is defeated.

      Of course I thought both Kerry and Gore would win the presidency too.

  3. A lot of local issues here including raising the minimum wage, a 1% sales tax, and most heated, changing the county commissioner rules to necessitate a “super majority” of 4-1 to change the master plan.  (Way too many developers got their way way too much.  Did I use enough “way”s there?) There were other matters, but those were the biggies.

    They all passed with huge margins, from roughly 2:1 to 7:1!  The more radical passed with the greater margins! The only item that didn’t pass was spending several millions of taxpayer dollars to upgrade the privately owned minor league ball field.  That lost by only a few hundred votes. 

    Remember, this is the land of Katherine Harris and major voting machine breakdowns. (There were new machines in use today.)  For a generally wealthy demographic, I would call the results startling.

    Not a good sign for the Republicans in 08.

    1. I’m about done with public financing of private facilities which bring in big private bucks.  You can argue that Major League stadiums draw in tourists, but you can’t say that for the Minors, and I’d want to see some good hard numbers before approving anything.  Not a major loss on the field upgrade.

      The rest sounds promising.

      1. I’m sure many sports team owners believe in PRIVATE enterprise and keep the government out of their affairs.

        Just like our Pretzeldent and his Texas Rangers, they sing another song when they want to pick the public’s pockets.

        Another (presumably) Republcian hypocrisy.

  4. Uber-corrupt outgoing governor Ernie Fletcher sent Kentucky into Deep Blue territory tonight; the Governor, Treasurer, and Attorney General’s offices all went heavily to the Democrat (in the 60-40 range), and the State Auditor’s office remained blue with a similar margin.  Republicans managed to hold on to only the Secretary of State and Agriculture Commissioner’s seats.

    Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell is up for re-election next year, and he’s losing popularity by the day in his home state.

  5. With a couple of nailbiter races and at least one dangling race, the Virginia Senate has flipped at least 4 seats into the Democratic column, giving Democrats the majority.

    Several House seats also went Democratic, but Republicans held on to their control there.

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