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October 31, 2007 05:38 PM UTC

Law Enforcement Opposes GOP Immigration Crackdown

  • by: Colorado Pols

Weld County District Attorney Ken Buck has served as the poster child for Republicans seeking a crackdown at the state level on illegal immigration, recently hosting a “forum” on illegal immigrant crime that was widely denounced by Latino and civil rights organizations.

So you’d expect him to be dancing in the street over yesterday’s proposals by Colorado Republicans regarding illegal immigrants, wouldn’t you?

Not so fast, as the Greeley Tribune reports:

Weld District Attorney Ken Buck, well-known for his battle against illegal aliens, said in some areas, a state Republican proposal could cause problems here.

“I guess the first reaction would be that the jail here is already overcrowded, and if we keep all of the DUIs who are illegal, it could make things worse.”

Buck said the felony arrests usually aren’t bonded out anyway, so they might not have a great impact on the jail population. But DUI suspects are usually bonded out, and there could be many of them.

“The other problem is how fast you can identify someone as illegal,” Buck said. “That may take several days. Does that mean we just keep everybody in jail until we prove they are illegal or not?”

Much like the plan to require proof of citizenship to vote, Republicans seem to want proposals to agitate the public with ahead of next year’s elections–not proposals with a snowball’s chance in hell of actually working.

Coming on the heels of Rep. Tom Tancredo’s wildly successful campaign for President based solely on the immigration issue, it makes sense that Colorado Republicans would jump on his coattails. Never mind that Tancredo is under 1% in the polls despite all his antics, never mind that Hispanics are the fastest-growing segment of voters in Colorado.

Foot, meet bullet.


19 thoughts on “Law Enforcement Opposes GOP Immigration Crackdown

  1. Democrat Heath Shuler (R-NC) has taken up Tancredo’s mantle, proposing a practical solution to the problem (http://www.numbersus…).  I’m not sure that Terrible Tom Tancredo is necessary any more, as he has done all he can do.

    Make it difficult enough for our unwanted “guests” to stay, and they will leave of their own accord.  Everybody wins.

    1. is how many American citizens are currently living in the United States without proof of citizenship.  We know, from recent experience in Colorado, that the number is not insignificant.  I wonder what it is.

      So the plan here is to make living conditions in the United States worse than living conditions in Mexico, in order to get illegal immigrants to return to Mexico.  Unfortunately, Americans without picture ID don’t have the option of going back home to Mexico.

      1. When I was kiddo in the 70s and 80s, learning about how our American Way of Life was better than the Evil Commies, one of the points was that, here in America, you didn’t need “papers” to live.  You could travel, work, shop, etc. without a government document giving you permission to do so.

        I guess that idea is just obsolete.

        1. …was the state mandated class for me in 1964.

          It should be obvious to any rational person that we have, indeed, become what we feared.  No, not in degree, but principles.

          Elections rigged by the top down, the military consuming the largest part of our discretionary budget, the militirization of our police departments, mandatory sentencing, the necessity for “papers” to move about.

          It wasn’t the Commies we should have feared, but the proto-fascists, a.k.a. Radical Right Wingers. 

          1. How are elections rigged?  Where’s the ballot stuffing and such?  If elections are rigged, why did Karl Rove allow the Democrats to win congress?

            Also, what papers is it I need again to travel from state to state?  Or city to city?

            1. ..Katherine Harris and her delisting of black voters.  See Ken Blackwell and the Ohio voting fraud.  Tips of a Republican iceberg.  We could also go back to 1980 and the October Surprise.

              Of course you need “papers” to fly.  It’s called a photo ID.  No ID, no fly. And you better not be on the “no fly” list.

              I did say that we aren’t there in degree, but in principle.  Rove underestimated how many votes he would have to secure in 2006, “the people” were far more pissed off than he realized.

              All too brief reply for what could be a major thread.

              Achtung, baby.

                    1. Facts in the context of other facts…  I remember watching a thing on the history channel about people who think that 9/11 was an inside job.  One “fact” that they pointed to was that debris from the PA crash was found in a town that was like 12 miles away from the crash site, so the plan had to have been shot down or something.

                      But that “fact” was only true that the town was 12 miles away in driving distance.  As the crow flies, it was only like a mile or two away.

                      Facts can be a tricky thing.

  2. Sadly, I have rarely seen any high level idea from the pubs that was worth a damn. As it is, it was the pubs who pushed using judges to decide to apply the death penalty.  Their goal was not better justice, but they thought that a judge would be much more willing to kill a killer. While I am no fan of the death penalty (in fact, very against it), I do believe that the ppl who WERE on death row here deserved it (dunn comes to mind). But they will all get life in prison because the supreme court ruled that death penalties should be decided by peers rather than a judge. Likewise, Colorado is now in a tight situation because of pubs debt handling, and America is deep in debt because of pubs handling of the budget with “innovative” ideas.

    1. It’s funny how the law enforcement community is always opposed to what the “law and order” types in the GOP cook up. (Right to copkiller bullets, anyone?)

  3. Illegal immigration has been an issue for more than 50 years.  It’s only recently become a wedge issue for politicians to beat their chests about.  In my opinion, it cost Republicans a lot of seats in 2006.

    From the perspective of a former cop who actually arrested illegal aliens, the problem is that the immigration laws enacted by our brain trust in DC have resulted in an indecipherable alphabet soup of visas.  A cop simply can’t tell whether a person he contacts is or is not here legally.  How does a cop in Fort Collins tell whether that Albanian woman he stopped at 10PM at night with an M-2 visa (spouse of a student enrolled in a vocational school) is here legally?  (e.g., has her husband-student overstayed his visa, is she separated from her husband-student, etc.) There ain’t anybody you can call while stopped on I-25.

    Sure, a van with 20 Mexicans in it, none of whom speak English, is probably illegal, but on the East Coast, the biggest group of illegal immigrants are Pakistanis, Eastern Europeans and Russians.  The 9-11 hijackers were here mostly on student visas and had overstayed their visas.

    Like the IRS code that has steadily grown in size and complexity over the years — every major tax bill since the 1950s has ironically had “reform” or “simplification” in the title — so too, have immigration laws.  Big government bureaucracies — whether it’s the IRS or ICE — don’t produce simple, efficient rules and regulations.  (I realize that all the Dems on Colorado Pols will immediately disagree with this assertion.)

    1. 1. how can you expect people to obey the law if it is so complex professionals argue about what laws mean.

      2. Dragooning (to use Scalia’s words) local law enforcement into immigration enforcement interferes with they public saftey mission.  How can you police a population if everytime the see a black and white they run away shouting “la migra”.

      3. I don’t know how to reform the visa system, but it needs to be reformed.

      On the tax issue.  I’m one of the few D’s I know that supports a flat tax.  high personal deductions so that those under $60k for a married ($30k individual) don’t have to file taxes-with flat taxes above that.  Business taxes, small business in particular, needs reform because ther are too many incentives to cheat.

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