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September 07, 2007 03:23 PM UTC

Open Line Friday!

  • by: Colorado Pols

“The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them.”

–Rush Limbaugh


53 thoughts on “Open Line Friday!

  1. out of the last 18 quotes on this site, 11 of them make  Republicans look bad, 6 are random and only 1 makes a Democrat (Clinton) look bad, but that quote cannot even be attributed to Clinton. 

    Why such a disparity on a non-partisan site?

        1. I suspect if someone were to locate good, pithy quotes from Democrats–with citations for accuracy–and email them to webmaster (at) coloradopols (dot) com, they would have an excellent chance of showing up here in an Open Thread.  You’d be saving the Dead Guvs some work.

    1. stupid and crazy thing Repubs say as compared to Democrats. It’s truly a non-partisan and accurate blog. Pols is trying to find such crazy and stupid comments from the left….but it’s hard!

      1. “Don’t fear the terrorists. They’re mothers and fathers.” -Rosie O’Donnell

        “(T)he dumbest Brit here is smarter than the smartest American”. – Michael Moore

        In reference to raising taxes “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.” –
        Hillary Clinton

        “When school children start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children.” – Union Boss Albert Shanker

        “I’ll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” – President Lyndon B. Johnson

        “Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we think they ought to have.” – Richard Salant

        “DO YOU FEEL like you live in a nation of idiots? I used to console myself about the state of stupidity in this country by repeating this to myself: Even if there are two hundred million stone-cold idiots in this country, that leaves at least eighty million who will get what I’m saying…” – Michael Moore

        “(Americans) are possibly the dumbest people on the planet … in thrall to conniving, thieving, smug pricks. We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We don’t know about anything that’s happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing? – Michael Moore

        “You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here.” – Howard Dean

        “When I suggest Republicans may have been involved (in the crash of Paul Wellstone’s plane), I do not mean the average GOP voter. I mean the troika that runs the government, consisting of Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld.” – College Professor James Fetzer

        “Gays and lesbians are beaten to death in the streets with increasing frequency – in part due to irrational fear of AIDS but also because hatemongers, from comedians to the worst of the Christian Right, send the message that homosexuals have no value in our society….In the post-Cold-War era, gays have been drafted to replace communists as the new menace to the American Way.” – Dan Rather

        “America is . . . like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you, aggressive.” – Johnny Depp

        Referring to Senator Jessie Helms “If there is…justice, he’ll get AIDS, or one of his grandchildren will get it.” -Nina Totenberg

        Referring to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas “I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. … He is an absolutely reprehensible person.”- Julianne Malveaux

        “The leadership of the Republican Party are a bunch of sociopathic maniacs who have their lips super-glued to the ass of the conservative right.” -Alec Baldwin

        “The President is a moron! I’m saying it. I don’t care. He’s an idiot. Cheney is evil. I’m sick of, impeach them, get them out! I hate them! I hate them. Get them out. They got to go!…What is it going to take for you people? Get Bush out! Impeach. Out! Out! Out!” – Kathy Griffin

        “Karl (Rove) is a shameless bastard. This could explain why his mother killed herself. Once she discovered what a despicable soul she had spawned she apparently saw no other way out.” – Larry Johnson

        ” There has never been an [American] army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” – Seymour Hersh

        “Again, (America is) a stupid country with stupid people who don’t pay attention.”  – Bill Maher

        Referring to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice “If I got (Condi Rice) on camera, I would put my Mars Air Jordans so far up her butt that the Mayo Clinic would have to remove them.” – Spike Lee

        “I just want to say that George W. Bush is the syphilis president. The only difference between Bush and Hitler is that Hitler was elected.” – Kurt Vonnegutt

        Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America.” – Rosie O’Donnell

        “Do our government’s poorly paid contract killers deserve our “support” for blindly following orders?” –  Tim Rall

        “George W. Bush is evil. He is a terrorist. He is evil. He is arrogant. And he is out of control.” – Julianne Malveaux

        “I hate Republicans and everything they stand for.”  – Howard Dean

        “I just don’t like homosexuals. If you ask me, they’re all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia.” -Al Franken

        “If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime – Pol Pot or others – that had no concern for human beings,” – U.S. Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL)

        “I would think that if you understood what Communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communists.” – Liberal Democrat Activist Jane Fonda

        Referring to President George W. Bush “The man’s father is a wonderful human being,” “I think this guy is a loser.” – Harry Reid

        Referring to President George W. Bush “I would like to apologize for referring to George W. Bush as a “deserter.” What I meant to say is that George W. Bush is a deserter, an election thief, a drunk driver, a WMD liar and a functional illiterate.” –  Michael Moore

        Referring to the good things Osama bin Laden has done “He’s (Osama bin Laden) been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day-care facilities, building health-care facilities, and these people are extremely grateful. We haven’t done that.” – Patty Murry

        Referring to Vice  President Dick Cheney “I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow.”  Asked if he believed that sentiment, he replied, “I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.” –
        Bill Maher

        “As I watched Tuesday night’s network coverage of the unrelenting political propaganda hour known as the Republican National Convention, the first thought that came to mind was of old newsreels of those self-congratulatory Nazi rallies held in Germany during the reign of Adolf Hitler.” – Newsday Writer Hugh Pearson
        17) “If people are ripping your face off, you have to rip their face off… If you take the knife off the table, it’s not very frightening anymore… I pride myself in being called a liberal… Anybody who’s ever dealt with me knows not to mess with me… [The Democratic establishment in Washington] couldn’t control me, so they needed to take me down… They can’t even believe the fact that I’m going to become Speaker, but they’re getting used to it.” – Nancy Pelosi

        Referring to Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell “There was two kinds of slaves. There was the house Negro and the field Negro. The house Negroes, they lived in the house with master, they dressed pretty good, they ate good ’cause they ate his food and what he left…In those days he was called a ‘house nigger.’ And that’s what we call him today, because we’ve still got some house niggers running around here” –  Activist Harry Belafonte

        “I do think that it is sometimes appropriate to kill a human infant. For me, the relevant question is, what makes it so seriously wrong to take a life? Those of you who are not vegetarians are responsible for taking a life every time you eat. Species is no more relevant than race in making these judgments.” – Professor Peter Singer

        “I think religion is a neurological disorder. If you look at it logically…” – Bill Maher

        “More than 50,000 adult non-citizen taxpayers in those two districts (Brooklyn and Staten Island, NY) are disenfranchised by citizenship voting laws.” – Democrat Cheryl Wertz on allowing illegal aliens to vote

        “I want to take those profits and put them into an alternative energy fund that will begin to fund alternative smart energy alternatives that will actually begin to move us toward the direction of independence.” –  Hillary Clinton

        I want to make it abundantly clear: if there’s anyone who believes that these youngsters want to fight, as the Pentagon and some generals have said, you can just forget about it. No young, bright individual wants to fight just because of a bonus and just because of educational benefits. And most all of them come from communities of very, very high unemployment. If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq. – U.S. Representative Charlie Rangel (D-NY)

        “Well, our job is to bash the President, that’s what we do…” – Newsweek Journalist Evan Thomas

        “America needs to follow the policies it has introduced in Germany”….”We have to go through a certain de-Nazification process.” – George Soros

        “Once I have elected to send my child to public school, my fundamental right does not allow me to direct what my child is exposed to in the public school.” –  John Davis

        “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq….” – John Kerry

        “If you’re a Republican and you’re not rich, you’re a fucking idiot. You’re not well-meaning, you’re not principled, you’re a tool, and a stupid tool at that.” –  Democrat Blog, Factory of Infinite Bliss

        So much tolerence!!

        1. that it’s too much to read. But let me ask this: What’s wrong with this quote:

          “Gays and lesbians are beaten to death in the streets with increasing frequency – in part due to irrational fear of AIDS but also because hatemongers, from comedians to the worst of the Christian Right, send the message that homosexuals have no value in our society….In the post-Cold-War era, gays have been drafted to replace communists as the new menace to the American Way.” – Dan Rather

          That’s right on the money, except that fortunately very few beaten gays and lesbians are actually killed.

          1. very few beaten gays and lesbians are actually killed. Rather makes it sound like it happens every day.

            What are your thoughts on this quote:

            “When school children start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children.” – Union Boss Albert Shanker

            1. I think it was taken out of context. When he was in discussion over representing Teachers, and someone asked why he didn’t represent children, this is what came out.

              But yes, it’s a stupid quote. However, if you use to make a case that Unions Bosses are only in it for the dues, you make yourself look stupid.

              As Jim Spencer wrote “Union Bashes Push Big Lie: Divided We Stand” http://spencerspeaks

              1. Sir Robin calimed that 11 to 1 was about the right ratio of dumb Republican quotes to dumb Democrat quotes.  I just wanted to provide some examples of the dumb Democrat quotes that Coloradopols can use in the future. 

            2. It’s no less reprehensible for the lack of death. And people have died simply for being gay. It’s not a bad quote unless Rather was actually delivering that line in the context of an actual news report.

              Go Blue gives a good answer to your question.

              1. He delivered it in an essay in the April 11, 1994 edition of the Nation.

                What is dumb about it is that he blames the Christian Right for it.  What about other religions like Islam that kill homosexuals? 

                1. As far as I know, right-wing Christianity has a much larger influence in America than radical Islam.  Thus, Christianity is more relevant when discussing domestic American issues.

                  1. In fact, if a Christian is willing to murder a homosexual, I doubt they have a very biblical faith. 

                    Quick question;

                    Each year, worldwide do more homosexuals or Christians die becuase of their lifestyle/faith?

                    1. You and I might agree that Christians promoting anti-gay beatings aren’t very biblical, but that’s exactly the effect of a lot of anti-gay preaching – most of them don’t distinguish between the sinner and the sin, and the result is homophobic violence.

                    2. An I would say that all the anti-Christian preaching in the United States and the world leads to the approximately 171,000 deaths per year of Christians, just because they are Christians. (according to the Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, which tracks this information)

                      I just wonder why liberals who do not like violence are so silent on this issue. 

                    3. One of the major tenants of the Chrisitan faith is that we should not murder other people.  I have no doubt that God meant homosexuals too.  And every church I know preaches that tenant.

                      I admit, I have never heard a seriously liberal person talk about stopping the 171,000 Christian murders per year, but they may be out there. 

                    4. I look on the seminary site, searched within the site, Googled using just the seminary and with other qualifiers.  I can’t find it.

                      Please help me.

                    5. … you’ll notice that the source for most of the information is yet another Christian source.  Where are these murders taking place in these quantities?

                      And my original point was it ain’t happening here is the USA.

                      And that the “martyrs” are less than 2/3rds of those in the 1970’s.  Guess things are getting brighter. 

                    6. And since the number of murders is going down, the 171,000 that do die each year should just shut up and die?  If 171,000 homosexuals died outside of the United States each year becuase they were gay, would that be okay?

                      Of course it is a Christian source, who else would track this?

                    7. …questions and statements.

                      First, there are a lot more Christians than out gays in the world.  WAY more in America.

                      How many Christians in America either get beaten up or killed for their faith?

                      I would guess around, +/- 0.00

                    8. You should read the entire thread.  We were debating a quote by Dan Rather that said that the Chrisitan right was beating and killing homosexuals.  I thought it was a dumb quote. 

                      I know that you are not going to provide the facts to back up your statement about Christians in America either get beaten up or killed for their faith, so I won’t ask.  The better question is how many American missionaries are murdered for their faith each year while they are overseas. 

                      Does the fact that there are more Christians than homosexuals justify the 171,000 Christians who are murdered each year bacuse of their faith. 

                    9. Here ya go again with your “It’s your responsibility to prove your statement but not mine” M.O.

                      Let’s say that I’ve never read in the paper or in the internet of any crowd beating up a Christian. Period, never.  And hence no deaths.

                      I’m certainly aware that missionairies get murdered.  But still probably not a 100 a year.  Yes, I’m guessing.  The bulk of that 171K figure is probably in China and Muslim nations. 

                      So, let me turn the tables here, please link me to an American killed, in America, for being a Christian.  Not a Christian who is killed for some other reason. 

                    10. So you don’t think it is your responsibility to prove your statement?

                      “Let’s say that I’ve never read in the paper or in the internet of any crowd beating up a Christian. Period, never.  And hence no deaths.”  – So if you don’t rad about it, it doesn’t happen?  Wow. 


                      I didn’t say 171,000 missionaries are killed each year, I said that 171,000 Christians are killed for their faith. 



                    11. Killed by mentally deranged persons, family disputes, etc.  But not executed for their faith.

                    12. http://www.religious

                      Key Quote:

                      “Witnesses have stated that the shooter was angrily spouting anti-Baptist rhetoric during the rampage.”

                      As for the others, I am surethat they murderers went to a church to kill people because they love Christians. 

        2. (1) you forgot the sourcing for the quotes.  Some seem a bit, um, unlikely . . .

          (2) Michael Moore is not Democrat

          (3) How many of the others here are Democrats?

          1. 1) When Pols starts sourcing all of their quotes, I will source mine.  If you have a few you would really like to know about, let me know which ones.

            2) If you look at Sir Robin’s post he says something to the effect that the Pols have had trouble finding quotes from the “left”.  these are quotes from the left, that does not mean that they are all Democrats.

            3) Please see answer #2.

    1. And as TakeBackTheHouse notes over on Square State,

      “No word on the whereabouts of indicted money launderer Alan Fabian, or alleged defrauder Robert Lichfield.

      update: Fabian and Lichfield have been located. They were in Romney’s campaign, working as his national and Utah finance co-chairs.”

      Nothing to see here!

  2. I ran across this posting this morning. Dave Crater says he can not believe that so many people are betraying Doug Lamborn and slandering him.  Of course the more obvious answer is that Christian conservatives dont like the fact that Lamborn lied about others in the last election, threatens his constituents, and feels entitled to the Christian conservative vote regardless of how unethical he acts.  I guess if you are a Lamborn supporter these days you have to convince yourself that it is the rest of the world who is crazy, not you. 


    1. “AS USUAL DOUG LAMBORN IS RIGHT”!  When it was forwarded to me, I nearly puked.  My answer to that is that Lamborn should have been an umpire.  People always question his judgment–unless you’re Dave Crater.

      1. Crank announced his finance committee yesterday.  Some heavy hitters are already getting involved.  I’m surprised some of these people would put their name on a campaign against an incumbent member of Congress.  This is really amazing –

        В·  Bruce Benson
        В·  Gary Bohall
        В·  Gary Loo
        В·  Terry Harris
        В·  Bill Miller
        В·  Joe Reich
        В·  Steve Schuck
        В·  Bruce Shepard
        В·  Kevan Worley
        В·  Larry Yonker

        1. Lamborn is hemorrhaging so much blood, anyone who would have been wanting to replace him but concerned over the power of incumbency cannot view him as anything other than less than likely to be re-elected.  Only if Rayburn gets in and gives Lamborn the first aid Lamborn needs by Rayburn’s playing the spoiler does Lamborn have a reasonable prospect for re-election.  Let’s hope Crank rakes in the big bucks wtih this committee’s help. 

  3. Now that Gen Petraeus has indicated what he’ll likely say to congress in the coming days and sees the “possibility” of slowly withdrawing troops, Dems need a COHERENT plan for getting out of Iraq and they need it now.

    Sure, the Petraeus plan from this mornings’ WaPo sucks (link below), but if it’s the only plan out there, Dems are going to have some trouble.


    So, will Harry and Nancy grow a backbone or quietly submit to what I can only imagine senior Repubs will soon be calling “The Petraeus Plan?”

    1. So all the Bills that Harry and Nancy put forward with withdrawl dates, Irag benchmarks, and timetables that were either Filibustered by Obstructionist Republicans or Vetoed by the President means that they don’t have a backbone?

      1. Uh, no…I think you can see that.

        I said that now that repubs have a “plan,” Nancy and Harry need to step up and actually get something done.  I made no reference to any bill or resolution that they have shown (or not shown) leadership on in the past.  That is reality.

        1. You said they need to grow a backbone, like they have done nothing to this point and just rolled over. I’m tired of hearing Dems repeating Conservatives talking points. If you really believe they have rolled over, then I don’t think you’ve followed close enough.

          1. youre implying too much from the word “backbone.”  But nonetheless…

            The point here (and I think it’s a point we both agree on) is that Dems need to find a solution AND HAVE IT IMPLEMENTED before the “Petraeus Plan” becomes de facto US policy.  Do you disagree?

            And if I’m not following closely enough, make sure you don’t tell my boss b/c I’m supposed to have been tracking Dem legislation through the current congress.  😛

            1. But what do you make of the fact of republicans being qouted saying things such as today’s NY Times article where:

              “Mr. Levin, who has been working to broker a deal on legislation that would require at least a modest withdrawal of troops, focused repeatedly on those parts of the report suggesting that a reduction of forces in the near future is not only possible but prudent.

              “The assumption of that greater responsibility by the Iraqi forces, you’ve indicated should lead to a reduction in the number of our forces,” Mr. Levin said to General Jones. “So far, are we together?”

              “We’re together, sir,” the general replied.

              Republicans, in turn, focused on the positive developments.

              “We can’t just ignore the good news,” said Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas. “And that is that you find that the Iraqi armed forces are increasingly effective and capable of assuming greater responsibility for internal security of Iraq.”

              but then those very same Republicans who fillibuster, block and scream like school children to implement any real policy change. It’s the Senate Republicans and Bush that are continuing us down the same course.

              Every plan, bill, suggestion for change falls on deaf ears.

              1. When the Republicans were in charge.  I remember several judges where the Democrats threatened fillibuster and  blocked and screamed like school children to implement any real policy change.

                1. But the we got th e”NUCLEAR OPTION” over Judges! JUDGES! The Republican party was willing to push aside our Senatorial rules over JUDGES. The Democrats have a larger respect for the process, but I believe they have several other options for pushing the American people’s agenda to end the war.

                  This is the occupation of a foreign country, where thousands of US Soldiers are dying, tens of thousands of them are sent him injured, almost 3 million Iraqi’s have fled the country and some estimates are nearing 1 million dead Iraqi’s. And the GOP is filibustering to stay the course, all for Bush.

                  You are comparing one apple to a barrel full of oranges.

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