As the Boulder Daily Camera reports:
Leading Republican lawmakers Tuesday said taxpayers will likely be leery of approving tax increases to fund higher education, partly because of the Ward Churchill debacle playing out at the state’s flagship university.
The GOP’s skepticism follows a weekend higher-education summit held in Colorado Springs. More than 40 of the state’s leaders, including university presidents, presented ideas to pump more money into colleges and universities, which studies show have been severely underfunded.
Senate Republicans say that if there are any pitches for higher taxes, they would likely fall on deaf ears until school leaders can demonstrate greater accountability with the money they already have.
Sen. Andy McElhany, R-Colorado Springs, said the Churchill dismissal case is eroding the public’s confidence in higher education…
One of two possibilities: far more people give a crap about the Ward Churchill fiasco than we’re aware of, or once again Andy McElhany is gifting the Dems with campaign talking points. This is the wrong, old, tired line of attack for the GOP. Education funding is reportedly polling very well for the Dems, and this kind of indifference to what voters believe is an issue is precisely what’s killed the Republicans for two election cycles now. We’ve heard that GOP internal polls show Dick Wadhams’ plan to harp on the mill-levy freeze until Election Day to be a non-starter as well.
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Of the Party that has claimed for years to be of personal responsiblity, they sure do point a lot fingers and in this case it’s ONE professor that’s taking the heat for all educational problems in the state. McElhany is not one to offer solutions, but rather create a distraction like this. Is Mc looking for a permanent minority status?
McElhany sounds more like John Andrews everyday.
tuition increases at the public universities are a big deal. people are directlty effected including the moderates the GOP needs to win races outside of the stridently conservative areas
At a Littleton Town Hall meeting that our in state tuition is so high it’s actually cheaper for Colorado students to go to school in Wyoming as out of state students there! Is that Ward Churchill’s fault,too?
I agree most people aren’t paying much attention. Most of the ones who are will observe two things:
(1) it is difficult to fire a tenured professor; and
(2) nonetheless, CU is taking the necessary steps to fire this guy, who badly needs it.
How does this reflect badly on higher ed, beyond the few folks who hate the very idea of tenure?
Republicans won’t quit until Texas Christian University is Colorado’s flagship campus.
Republicans won’t quit until ANY christian university is the flagship university of the state! Liberty/Bob Jones/Oral Roberts University-Colorado Springs? (oh, and the school would have to be private too!)
What are you saying about CSU here?
what are you talking about? I would not consider Colostate to be a christian univeristy, unless things have changed in the last 15 years.
I have been following a lot of the gripes in places and seeing all the folks who want him fired, tarred and feathered (including hank brown). What has amazed me is that when I point out to others that if he is fired, he will be able to sue, and will win back his position, all legal fees, and millions in compensation. What is strange about this, is that the CU committee recommended that he be on 1 year suspension with no pay, then demoted and paid appropriately. That would mean that that he would go from having ~60-80K/year to 30K/year and NO university would touch him. And if he is not teaching, then he will be put on unpaid leave. IOW, it would finish him. And there is NOTHING in courts that would allow him to reasonably win a law suit. The issue is that there is enough evidence to demote him, but not enough to break tenure.
As to reflecting poorly on higher ed and tenure, personally, I think it speaks well. Tenure was designed to prevent a gov. or a university from being able to abuse a prof. when they do something controversial. This shows that it works. But Tenure was not to be abused either. WC sits on the fence because he IS being attacked because of his paper, not his past. So going after him is impossible. But there is enough evidence to demote him legally.
I would love to see all the republicans that want him gone to sign on to an agreement to pony up 100K each IFF WC wins the law suit. I am willing to bet that not a 1 will do it. But they have no problem with committing myself and my children to having to pay for their continual follies.
The real problem is the republicans have ran the state into the ground over the last 8 years (well, actually, the US). That includes Higher Ed. It needs to be re-built. Sadly, a major reason why I came here back in the 70’s was because of the universities. They were top of the middle notch and moving fast. Most of the damage has been done in 8 short years. Sadly, I suspect that it will take several decades to re-build them to what they were.
And not a PhD in sight…..
When I was in the academia world, I knew a number of PhDs who were worthless. Absolutely worthless. But there were a number who were not only brilliant, but motivated. IOW, they are like every other group out there. Likewise, there were a number of research Masters/BSs who were also brilliant, and innovative. They could also teach. They belonged in the academia world even without their PhDs. Normally, these folks will be granted an honourary PhD after about 10-20 years of service.
Somebody at CU thought that he was worth giving early tenure to. In the science world, that is reserved for those who bring with them major research dollars (and yes, some of them actually have just BSs). Or they may bring major prestige with a peace price, a number of published books, etc. I do not believe that WC had that, so it means that somebody jumped the gun. But it does not matter. He obtained tenure LONG ago.
I am not saying that churchill belongs there. Offhand, there is enough evidence that indicates that he cheats repeatedly. Proving it beyond a shadow of a doubt is damn difficult without the person’s admission. And I doubt that he will admit it. But with that evidence, he is showing that he does not belong there.
But there is no doubt that the republicans are doing EXACTLY what tenure was designed to prevent; punishing someone for their POV.
..I’m saying that having a PhD from a major institution shows more rigorous scrutiny of knowledge and abilities AND higher pay. Seems like he got the latter anyway. Not shabby for a master’s in a non-business field.
ROFLMAO…yes, it’s edited, yes, it’s taken out of context. YES, it’s all a conspiracy by ColoPols to implant subliminal thoughts into the minds of…….uh, I forget. (the blinking advertisement has hypnotized me and made me forget.) COLOPOS…you da’ BEST! BTW, and For the Record…Andy is WRONG and OLD and TIRED and living La Vida 1950. I don’t hate him, I just know him…quite well.
I think a lot of them are desperately trying to bring back the good old days of running things from the right. They think if they yell the same old things louder it will work again. They don’t realize that the root problem is that people no longer buy what they have been selling and to win they need to chage what they offer.
Oh well, give them 5 or 10 years and they’ll get it. In the meantime the Dems can work on fixing all the damage they did.
Twenty years ago Margret Thatcher said, “There is no such thing as ‘society’ only individuals and their families.” Once the conservative movement takes that turn they find themselves (1) arguing against most people’s everyday experience and (2) unable to speak coherently about the everyday functioning of government in the modern world. Conservatives have trouble talking about education for the same reason. For the market fundamentalist, education is about acquiring marketable skill sets. For the rest of us education is about becoming a contributing member of society. Specific skills are part of that, but so too is critical thinking and a sense of how our shared culture shapes who we are and what we aspire to. By relying on the rhetoric of the twin fundamentalisms of evangelical religion and the inerrant market Republicans cripple themselves when it comes to having useful things to say about the social commons.
(oh, wait – can’t do that…)
The more I look at the current GOP trends, the more I think what you say is true: the current GOP crop seems to think with Thatcher – that “society” isn’t important, only individuals and families (if it helps their elections…).
Of course, this did not used to be true; the greatest old-time Republicans were firm believers in society. Teddy R. had his problems, but I would have voted for him over any one of the current crop of GOP clones running for President, and probably over half of the Democrats, too.
As a former student at Texas Christian University I can say with complete sincerity that Republicans in Colorado would NOT be satisfied if Texas Christian University was the flagship university for Colorado. TCU would not be Christian enough for them. TCU is a Disciples of Christ denomination school. The Disciples of Christ are more to the Christian left, and along the Jim Wallis lines of thinking, and thus would not be the right kind of Christian for Colorado’s Focus on the Family Republicans.
there is a local Christian college here ran by bill Armstrong that is seeking to have the state support it. I looked it up a couple of days ago and started laughing when reading some of the areas for biology. Science in obviously gone there. It had a heavy “ethics” and ID flavor in it.
What I find funny is why is Bill seeking state funding rather than getting it from his buddies? That will only cause taxes to be jacked up.