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April 03, 2007 04:57 AM UTC
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cause this is about the dumbest thing he could have said. Not only is he again going against his previous pledges, but way to encourage Bush while your at it.
keep drinkin’ the HaterAde!
I can only imagine what Sen. Reid is going to say about this seeing as pushing ahead with plans to cut funding.
You took a qoute out of context to suffice your bias. That’s not setting the record straight, but rather bending the facts to appease your argument, or rather the argument of pundits of the republic party.
There is no more time for the President to play these political games with Congress. The American people have spoken!
so I’m not sure what I’m taking out of context. I understand its hard for you to accept that Obama is not the perfect candidate that you thought he was, but better to find out now then in the general when he would get killed.
While you say he caved, here is what Sen. Obama had to say.
April 3, 2007
“The House and Senate recently passed Iraq war spending bills that include timetables for withdrawing troops from Iraq but President Bush has promised to veto the measure. While rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton challenged Bush to work with Congress instead of vetoing the bill, Obama appeared to consider the veto a done deal.
“When he vetoes that bill, we are going to have to go back and say what are the other ways we can ratchet up the pressure on the president,” he said. “There are a whole range of options. We could say, OK, we’re going to fund the war in three-month increments and keep you on a shorter leash, or we’re going to try to constrain you and let you veto the bill again.”
http://www.boston.co…
Your story is two days later and is Obama trying to do damage control. He know’s he said something he shouldn’t have said and now he’s trying to get out of it without looking like a flip flopper or a rookie. To late if you ask me.
The man is being a realist, by weighing all options. That is something alot of politicians could learn from.
“Obama’s opposition to the Iraq war in 2003 is unquestioned. But what was a sharp anti-war line on the campaign trail in 2004 – when he said he favored voting against funding the war – turned into a more pragmatic Senate performance, where Obama has taken a less aggressively anti-war tack than fellow Democratic Sens. John F. Kerry (Mass.), Russ Feingold (Wis.) and others.”
YOU think that Obama said something dumb? NO WAY! I am sooooo surprised!
Not.
Just goes to show how much tougher it is to keep the faith when you leave the Malibu party and get out from behind Oprah’s skirt.
This more than anything is why I am not a Obama fan. He lacks the true moral courage needed to lead us out of our current situation. He looks like a million bucks and makes wonderful speeches, but he has not been tested in the public square, he does not know what it is like to be in an environment where everyone is critical and again and again he shows how he is willing to cave on promises made.
All his “hard core” supporters worry about his cocaine use getting out when they should be worried about him running for President while hiding behind Oprah’s skirts.
But assuming that I agree, who is better? Clinton? I admit I was impressed when i read her speech given before she voted for the war funding. It was a well thought out analysis that pitted risk against risk. She warns that attacking Iraq too quickly before building international support would be a mistake. She calls the decision the hardest one she has ever had to make. Her main mistake was with this statement, “I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible.”
Many people took the President at his word. They were all mistaken. I have yet to decide whether a mistake such as this is, alone, enough to keep me from supporting someone.
http://clinton.senat…
Yeah she shouldn’t have taken him at his word but hindsite is always 20 20 and there are a lot of people who took him at his word. No way one could have predicated things would go THIS bad. The question is what can be done about it now. For Obama to go back on his word and undercut his party’s position is a Lieberman type of move. I didn’t expect him to flip-flop this quickly.
“I didn’t expect him to flip-flop this quickly.”
Do you actually expect us to beleive that you are giving Obama a fair shake? LOL! C’mon dude. Mountain man, employed blogger for the Hilary campaign desperately seeking slime.
of these claims so you make up stuff about me. How very Carl Rovian of you.
Your claims in that previous post have no merit to be argued over. Pretty simple.
Obama has said he wouldn’t support funding the war unless there is deadlines for withdrawl but here he clearly giving in to the Bush Administration and going against his own party leaders. All of these statement are common knowledge and are verifiable I’m not sure how you can say this is without merit. If you’d like to try please be my guest.
And this is different from Hilary’s position how?
I think Hillary and Obama are the same, just Obama keeps telling people he’s different even though their voting record on the war is identical. I just wish Obama would be honest about it.
But I do not feel that Hilary and Obama are the same. Their voting record is identical? Except of course for the war authorization that she refuses to apologize for, like Edwards had the guts and integrity to do, AND the “I am tougher on the war in Iraq” than the Republicans rhetoric.
Honest about what exactly?
She voted for what she felt was right at the time. Sure it didn’t turn out the way she hoped, and she is trying to fix it now, but going back and saying sorry now implies that she did something wrong. If Edwards knew somethin different when he voted and voted anyway then he should say he’s sorry but if he did what he thought was right at the time then saying he’s sorry just seems like pandering to the liberal base.
do not think that it is “pandering” at all. I do not want another President who simply blames others when things go south and refuses to admit mistakes.
this obsession with Oprah’s skirts? Or are you just repeating it over and over again hoping to get it into the current political lexicon?
Lacks “true moral courage”? You mean like Hilary going down to Selma *after* she found out that Obama was going? You mean like Obama turning down 6 figure salaries to go work with inner city communities for poverty level wages? You mean being a civil right lawyer is a bad thing?
Oh right, his cocaine use, you mean the one that he admitted to in writing in his book? Naw that does not take “moral courage” at all.
What promises are you refering to exactly?
No not really.
Sorry to use the analogy too many times. It came natural for some reason.
I want to like Obama, but when he’s not shooting his own Party in the foot intentionally, he does it accidentally.
This guy’s way waaay too green to be President.
Typical.
“Obama’s too green to be president.” Greener than Al Gore?
“Green” can actually mean several things. I’ll loan you a thesaurus.
He’s way to pink!
I guess criticizing Obama is a no-no, but it does divert attention from hating on R’s, so keep it up!