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March 08, 2007 08:44 PM UTC

House Dems Ask for Iraq Pullout by 2008

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  • by: Colorado Pols

UPDATE: Rep. Mark Udall issued this statement on today’s legislation:

“We must pass the emergency supplemental to provide our troops with the equipment and supplies they need and to provide the best health care for our returning troops and veterans. 

“I have consistently urged a responsible end to the war based on a strategy of phased withdrawal of troops, accelerated diplomacy and redeployment that is based on Iraqi stability and not arbitrary deadlines. The plan announced today holds the president accountable to the benchmarks set by his own administration and the Iraqi government.  The only concern I have with the language of the proposal is the specific timetable for withdrawing troops.  I think it would be wiser if it were not part of the final bill that we will consider on the floor of the House of Representatives.”


As the Associated Press reports:

In a direct challenge to President Bush, House Democrats unveiled legislation Thursday requiring the withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq by the fall of next year.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the deadline would be added to legislation providing nearly $100 billion the Bush administration has requested for fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

She told reporters the measure would mark the first time the new Democratic-controlled Congress has established a ”date certain” for the end of U.S. combat in the four-year-old war that has claimed the lives of more than 3,100 U.S. troops.

The White House had no immediate reaction, although Bush has repeatedly rejected talk of establishing a deadline for troop withdrawals…

…Democrats won control of Congress last fall in midterm elections shadowed by public opposition to the war, and have vowed since taking power to challenge Bush’s policies.

Pelosi made her announcement as Senate Democrats reviewed a different approach – a measure that would set a goal of a troop withdrawal by March of 2008. Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada called a closed-door meeting of the rank-and-file to consider the measure.

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  1. The AP just says it’s “legislation.” Are we talking about a bill? A resolution? Would it have to pass by a simple majority? If so, how would it bind Bush? Couldn’t he just veto it? And if so, then  it’s bound to fail, and it’s also bound to fail if it requires the 2/3 support to bypass a veto, so this thing looks like it’s going nowhere.

    Unless I’m missing something…

      1. For some good ol’ political posturing!…  Ugh…  Dems have one “good” option for ending the war and that is to stop funding it.  Everything else they do is just crap.  It seems like a dozen years in the minority has left Dems w/o any political intel. whatsoever…

        1. The Dems are going to stop funding it–first they say there’s a problem, then they put a deadline, and then if that doesn’t work then they’ll squeeze the coffers shut.  I you wanted to end the war and bring the troops home yesterday, then you should have elected Kucinich president.  Congress never has cut off funding for a war–this is precedent setting.  Be real.

          1. Uh, thanks sherlock…that’s what I just said.  The point is that to end the war, D’s have to cut off funding.  This has nothing to do with that troll from the Ohio 10th.  It has to do w/ D’s taking the action they claim to support, or playing a political game they may very well lose…

    2. Maybe they are smarter than I give them credit for. I just READ the AP story :). Anyway, it looks like they attached it to the extra money Bush is asking for. If he vetoes it, he doesn’t get the money. Makes sense to me.

        1. and simply blame the Dems for “not supporting the troops.” I agree with whatsisname, that the only real course of action the Dems have is to cut off funding for the war and put the onus on Bush to “support the troops.”

    3. Looks like they don’t believe in their country,  doesn’t it.

      This isn’t about national security, it’s about winning elections.

      1. “Looks like they don’t believe in their country, doesn’t it?”

        Simply put, the U.S. policies and actions in Iraq and throughout the world have increased world terrorism. The predictions made by this administration regarding the war have been badly wrong-predictions regarding how quickly it would end, how much it would cost, how we would be greeted as liberators, and how terrorism would decline as a result. This is verifiable.

        Great Americans everywhere (last I heard about 70%)want this debacle to end. Most of the rest of the world wants it to end. Some knucklheads want it to continue…..the killing, the carnage, the cost to treasury and U.S. standing around the world.

        We don’t believe in this war’s purposes, its costs, its leadership…

        By ignoring, or criticizing %70% of the people in this country, it is you skeptic who does not believe in the country.

        And, you’re wrong….it is about national security.

      2. How do you ” surrender to terrorists ” when you invade and occupy their land, ostensibly for a reason that wasn’t even true (WMD)?  You are just regurgitating the ridiculous Bushy nonsense about the Dems ” not supporting the troops”.  The best way to “support the troops” is to get them out of the line of fire in a civil war that can’t be won.  Eventually the grown ups have to step in and make some decisions before this total fucking idiot in the White House sends us to Iran.

        First the Bushys’ argue that the Dems don’t have a plan.  Now there is a concrete plan proposed to get the troops out of an unwinnable war and its called “electioneering” or “playing into the hands of the terrorists.”

        Bush fucked up real, real badly in Iraq, surrounded himself with yes men and yes women, never really knew or cared about knowing anything about the region, created resentments and reopened ethnic divisions without knowing it, and invited terrorists to “bring it on”.  You would think someone asking Americans to lay down their lives would do them justice by at least doing his homework.  But no, with chicken hawks the troops are patronized in the name of the flag but expendable at the same time.  Walter Reed and lack of armor plating for Humvees comes to mind.

        I for one am sick and tired of this crazy republican horseshit.  “Democrats don’t want victory”.  Bush can’t even define what victory in Iraq is, when or if it will ever come, or how to achieve it.  His own veep told us the insurgency was “in its last throes” and
        W himself told us “mission accomplished”.  He doesn’t even know what the mission is, for Christ sakes !

        Now somehow those with the most commonsense strategy to get us out of there are not “supporting the troops”.  Supporting the troops means getting them out before another one dies in vain. I hope Pelosi grabs onto W’s balls and never lets go. 

              1. You are right, gb.  The Democrats are doing what the people elected them to do. I thought the only important result of a Democrat victory would be to MAYBE slow down the march to war with Iran.

                  But look what happens in a democracy, when the people speak:  Rumsfeld is gone.  Gates is cleaning house. Attention is being paid to Walter Reed and the inadequate care vets are getting.  The FBI has admitted to improper spying and that is going to stop.

                On the diplomatic front, North Korea has worked out an agreement and there are diplomatic advances with Iran and Syria…..it is a sea change.  The world is paying attention and I think it is a good thing for America’s overall position in the world that Bush has finally been reputiated.

                Now;  I think Pelosi is approaching legislation about the war, prudently.  As I think that Hillary’s vote in 2002 was legitimate.  There are constitutional issues around the conduct of foreign policy. The Congressional role is to fund and do oversight, not conduct.  Realistically, the funding sword has to be used in a way which allows for a orderly withdrawal, with protection for our military.  I think getting soldier sout of Iraq is going to be extremely difficult….and that has to be done with care.

                I am pleasantly surprised that democracy worked so well and the Democrats are doing okay.  Could have fooled me.  it is so good to be wrong.

        2.   IIRC, those terrorists were two countries to east of Iraq in a place called Afghanistan.
            By the way, while we’ve been diddling around in Iraq looking for WMDs and allowing the execution of Saddam Hussein to turn the dirt-bag into a martyr, the Taliban has been regrouping and surging in Afghanistan.

        3. Another Skeptic is un-american. Rather than look at the situation, learn from mistakes, and make the best possible choice for our troops, he’d rather stand by an arroganit idiot with a flag in hand. It’s the same sentimental Bullshit the LOYALIST held in our war for independence.

          Patriots are those who actually support the troops, and put forward a strategy for victory, not one of stubborness as the monkey in the White House has.

          1. You and your sick ilk are the ones that want to turn tail and run like cowards. Make it so every brave soldier that died, did so for nothing.
            Oh yeah, that’s real patriotic alright. That’s supporting our troops.
            Liberal fucking bullshit

            1. Are the troops speaking out against the war and saying that we shouldn’t be there cowards? Are they un-American?
              “Americans learn only from catastrophe and not from experience”
              -Theodore Roosevelt

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