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August 07, 2023 12:14 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong.”

–Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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19 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. What’s the difference between the Colorado Rockies and the Colorado Republican Party? . . .

    [Another Colorado disgrace makes it big onto the national disgrace stage!  (. . . Move over Boebs,)]

    Some state Republican parties are struggling and seeing deep divisions

    This year, the conservative wing of the Colorado GOP elected a new party chair, former state Rep. Dave Williams.

    [Williams] declined an interview request for this story,

    . . .

    All of the infighting is also taking a toll on the Colorado party’s bottom line. There’s been lackluster fundraising and for the first time in years, it’s not paying any members of its staff. On a recent visit to party headquarters south of Denver, the lights were out, blinds drawn and no one answered the door.

    https://www.npr.org/2023/08/07/1192255293/state-gop-woes-colorado-michigan

    . . . There’s a couple of folks who may still be pretending to hold out some hope for the Rockies.

     

    1. Well, the Rockies are not only paying staff, they're also sending cash to other teams who are willing to take the Rockies' best players in lopsided trades. So, there's that…

      1. Yesterday (Sunday), the Rockies won their first three game road series in St. Louis since 2009. The young players are exciting to watch and the pitching staff is showing improvement.

        1. 44-67 Rockies are only

          • 10.5 games behind the NLWest 4th place Padres.
          • 20.5 behind the NLWest leading Dodgers.
          • 27 games behind the NL leading Braves.

          Seems like they are making predictions come true: On Mar 30, 2023, "But just how slim are their odds? Well a recent power poll tweeted out by ESPN gives the Rockies no chance. Colorado is ranked 27th in the poll but are given a 0% chance of reaching the postseason and World Series."

          I'm not much of a fan.  When was the last time they were even in the top half of the standings?

    2. And, judging by the attendance numbers, lots of people seem to enjoy taking in a game at Coors Field despite the legendarily awful product the Monforts put on the field. Hard to imagine any but the most smooth-brained and/or psychotic enjoying any CO GOP event.

    1. We, here at the "Edge of the World Ranch", were just reflecting on the enormous level of taxpayer resources being spent playing footsie with former White House occupant, D.J.Trump.

      His strength lies in the large number of voters who are still devoted to him. Trump voters, as a group, are obsessed with being a bludgeon against the godless Democrats. As long as the Republican party continues to rely on the steaming, stinking, pestilence known as MAGA to win local and state elections, we will continue to pay through the nose to prosecute a traitor.

       

  2. I briefly had the idea this morning that if Biden dropped out of the 2024 Presidential race, then that would neuter Trump's "Biden is just out to get me because of the polls" argument. Which is true I guess but it wouldn't change anything.

    Trump would still insist that "THEY are out to get him (and you)" for various reasons. His perpetual Victim-ing would go on unhindered.

    Welp, so much for that idea.

    1. I don't understand the desire to get rid of Biden. The guy wins. He wins the Democrat primary. He wins the general. He passes legislation while Trump spent 4 years dangling "infrastructure week". He brings the strongest midterm finish for a party with the presidency…. You know what I better turn these cards in for some unknown. 

      Is it just table babel for poor poker players?

      1. Is it just table babel for poor poker players?

        Since I am bad at poker then I'd say… yes, yes it is.

        I have no desire for Biden to drop out of the race. My thought was basically "If Biden were to drop out of the race, would that weaken Trump's Victim Strategy?" The answer I came up with was "No. Trump would always find a way to play the Victim so it wouldn't matter."

        I think Biden is doing a good job at being President and I think his low poll numbers are caused by his low poll numbers and people's unwillingness to say President Biden is doing a good job. 

      2. Yep…

        Uncle Joe has returned professionalism to the White House. His numbers are slowly increasing as Americans realize that Joe Biden is doing a great job.

        Go get 'em, Joe!

         

  3. Your Guide To John Eastman’s High Falutin’ Word Salad to Overthrow the Constitution Josh at Talking Points Memo.

    Original title: "Summa Contra Bullshitica Eastmana"

    Last point. One highly notable thing about this interview is that Eastman doesn’t actually bring up or hang his hat on any of the “stolen election” or election fraud conspiracy theories. He’s clearly not willing to. He says the following, which comes just after 27 minutes, 30 seconds into the interview …

    “The amount of information about illegality was, I thought, clear-cut. That opened the door for fraud. And I think both the statistical evidence and the anecdotal evidence [that] I had for people engaging in that fraud because the door had been open to it was significant enough to have halted the results of the election.”

    With this logic he makes a key jump (actually stated most clearly earlier in the interview at just after seven minutes): “Because of the illegality, the actual burden of proof shifts on to” those who wanted to certify the election. So because of the “illegalities,” Trump and Co don’t even have to explain why the election result should be overturned. Everyone else has to explain why it shouldn’t be overturned!

    Let’s break down the keywords here by translating it out of Trumpspeak: When he talks about “illegalities,” he’s talking about the raft of adjustments and changes that were made to election administration to hold an election during what was then the-still pre-vaccine pandemic. In many cases these changes were quite significant. But we can say that they were all definitively legal. How can we say this so categorically? Because the Republican Party and the Trump campaign aggressively litigated all of them in the courts in the lead up to the election. 

     

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