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June 01, 2023 06:51 PM MDT

Friday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“Whoever is out of patience is out of possession of their soul.”

–Francis Bacon


11 thoughts on “Friday Open Thread

  1. Good morning,

    As you all know June is LGBT Pride month, so this is a quite timely announcement.

    I believe I mentioned on here before that I own a publishing company. It is called DX Varos Publishing. Our latest release happens to have been written by another regular Pols participant, notaskinnycook

    She has written a vital self-help book for the spouses/partners of transgender/transsexual people which is receiving high praise from reviewers both in and outside of the LGBT community. The title is It’s Not All About You: Living with a Transsexual Spouse or Partner.

    You can read more about it here:

  2. Dark Brandon did his victory lap from the Oval.

    And he did a shout out to McCarthy and McConnell – which will probably get both of them in trouble with the nut jobs.

  3. Well, this will be an interesting case. Club Q victims are planning on suing El Paso County for not ordering an Extreme Risk Protection Order against the shooter.

    I saw another story a while back in which the EPC sheriff said he didn't do an ERPO initially because the shooter was under a different type of protection order, and couldn't do an ERPO later because court records were sealed.

    Not a lawyer so I'm not sure where the case will go, but I'm interested to see if this might at least test whether law enforcement can decide not to use mechanisms like ERPO that are clearly established in state law.

      1. Police and sheriffs almost always "pick and choose" to some extent.  Denver, for example, insists marijuana use is the "lowest priority." El Paso County sheriff can point to "equal justice" — he won't enforce at all, for anyone. 

        We'll soon find out if it is a legally acceptable standard.  I'm not a lawyer, but my betting money would be that it is. 

        Later on, there will be a political judgment at the next sheriff's election.  My predictive powers are next to nonexistent, but I'd lean toward EPC endorsing this sort of behavior rather than denying anyone their gunz.

        1. I do understand law enforcement picks and chooses how or what to enforce. They almost have to, to some extent, partially due to finite available resources. But the Club Q slaughter was beyond egregious, and it seems obvious the shooter was known to be at some level of threat to society. I'm not really using the word "negligence" here in a legalistic sense, but in my heart of hearts it seems like there was some negligence somewhere along the line in not doing a better job of trying to keep this shooter from doing what happened – whether through institutionalization, a court order, or other interventions.

          No idea whether this specific case might get to the concept of sheriffs deciding not to file ERPOs or not to use other duly enacted public safety mechanisms. I know law enforcement might use discretion over how they handle many different types of issues. I don't think the CO law says law enforcement even has to file an ERPO, and I mentioned in my post above reasons why the EPC sheriff might not have filed. But I'd like to see the concept tested at some point.

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