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September 30, 2022 10:31 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Wherever there is interest and power to do wrong, wrong will generally be done.”

–James Madison

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    1. And if Russia escalates to use of tactical nuclear devices,

       * all aid to Ukraine;

       * expulsion of the Russian nation from its "permanent" seat on the Security Council; and

       * NATO forces carrying out a nonnuclear proportional response on Russian military assets, whether in occupied Ukraine (including Crimea) or somewhere else.

        1. I'm not sure about that.  The founding seat went to the USSR.  That went to Russia after the USSR collapsed.  Also, Nationalist China was replaced by Red China.  So UN has twice remade the security council — without dissolving.

        2. The United Nations may be able to do something about Russia in a couple of ways, according to one retired senior Foreign Service officer: Can Russia Be Removed from the U.N. Security Council?  In addition to the two named, there could be some "condition" attached that Russia would not want to meet — such as requiring leadership to to be subject to international law, as adjudicated at The Hague.

          Fundamentally, like any organization, even "impossible" things can get done if the membership wants to do it.

    1. CPAC starts waving little Russian flags with Trump's name on them… Oh wait, that was September's surprise.

      CPAC will invite the dictator of Hungary to speak at its annual convention… Wait, that was August.

      The Republican Party will express outrage that US is helping Ukraine, and call for cutting off all "gifts" to Ukraine. Yes, that's October.

    2. An interesting question, Negev. 

      Maybe a meeting where every Republican elected to a Colorado Constitutional office in the 2000s endorses a Democrat for this year's election, promising to try to do better in 2026.

      I'd also be highly surprised if wannabe Gov. Ganahl handed out a economists-developed plan on paper or via powerpoint, allowing the voters to see how income tax could go away AND all the other constraints on budgeting – especially TABOR & Gallagher – could be followed.

  1. Ok, Bennet, Griswold, & Weiser are all in races against quality candidates. O'Dea, Anderson, & Kellner are running competent campaigns and come across as reasonable moderately conservative candidates.

    (Yes, according to everyone here they are all the devil incarnate, but to the vast majority of voters they are a reasonable conservative choice.)

    So assuming all three of these Dems win, by what percentage does the worst performer have to win by for us to be considered a safely blue state?

    My vote is 56%. If all three get 56% or more of the vote, we're blue. No longer blue-ish but solid blue.

    ???

    1. In 2018, state executive offices were won by Polis @ 53.4%, Griswold @ 52.7%, Young @ 52.2%, and Weiser @ 51.6%.  If all 4 win re-election by their margin plus 2%, that would be ONE broad stripe of blue. 

      Second stripe would be Bennet winning by with over 52% (improving on his 2016 result by 2%).

      Third stripe would be the US House seats going at least 5-3, and aggregate popular vote for the 8 being at least 54%.

      Filling in any space between the 3 stripes would be Colorado House and Senate remaining Democratic majorities of at least 20-15 in the Senate, 40-25 in the House.

    2. I’ve seen nothing in my mailboxes or on the air waves from Kellner, Sias, and Anderson. I’m curious as to how the determination was arrived at that they are running competent campaigns. 

      I’ve seen anti-Bennet ads, but can’t recall seeing pro-O’Dea ads.

      Your comment “according to everyone here, they are the devil incarnate” is also not accurate in regard to use of the word “everyone.”

      “to the vast majority of voters, they are a reasonable conservative choice…..” I’m having trouble tracking here. How big is “vast,” in terms of percent of the electorate?

      1. I've seen the O'Dea commercials showing the restaurant he worked in when in high school, his union construction job, and his daughter talking about his independence.

    3. "…are all in races against quality candidates"

      I don't believe that to be true. By what metric are you judging them? Certainly not by fundraising. So what makes them "quality"? That they are not currently indicted?

      Look at Kellner who has $144,248.72 expenditures and 97k in the bank. While Phil Weiser is kicking off the 2.2 million in ad spending his campaign announced earlier this summer and has another million in the bank. 

      I guess he is hoping those digital signs blaming polis for car thefts will be the thing that makes him more "quality"?

      In regards to us being a blue state… no; however, Republicans keep supporting Trump and disliked policy. 

    1. Propaganda is different than "laughable nonsense". In other words her own beliefs are irrelevant. You need to ask whether the lies and fear and loathing result in getting votes.

    1. Maybe I’ve been reading way too many MAGA conspiracy theories since 2015. Scalia died under somewhat mysterious circumstances. He was good friends with Ginsburg and he once wrote that the 2nd amendment wasn’t absolute in terms of owning firearms. In other words, he couldn’t be totally trusted by the far right wing………

      The far righties aren’t completely happy with Gorsuch either, since he’s turned out to be a champion, on the Court, for Native American rights. 

      Just wondering……….

       

          1. Well, if "My Kevin" McCarthy or Gym Jordan becomes speaker, one of the planks in their platform is to vote to repeal the ACA … I may need to go back to my prior name.

  2. Yep … today's the day for the "really, not establishing religion" mass.

    Friday was the investiture of KJB.  She was announced as the circuit justice for the 1st Circuit, which covers Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Puerto Rico. Other judges continue in their Circuit reponsibilities.

    Tomorrow we get to begin the new session. Starting with a SECOND appearance of the case

    Sackett v. Environmental Protection Agency, the justices will once again weigh in on an Idaho couple’s efforts to build on land that they own – specifically, what test courts should use to determine whether the Clean Water Act applies to the land, which the EPA has deemed a wetland. The answer could have significant implications for the EPA’s efforts to regulate wetlands more broadly.

    Round 1 was in 2012, saying the couple Sackett COULD litigate an EPA determination.  EPA, a trial court, and the 9th Circuit court determined the land has wetlands & EPA was justified. 

    There appears to be some doubt the current Justices will agree.

  3. Interesting political history lesson in today's Denver Post by Seth Masket.  I didn't realize the GOP's turn away from being the Party of Lincoln towards appealing to racists started earlier than 1968.  In fact Nixon opposed that strategy as late as 1964.

    Even after Goldwater’s nomination, the party showed no signs of turning back. The new chair of the RNC, Dean Burch, said the party would not repudiate the Ku Klux Klan, because “we’re not in the business of turning away votes.” Alabama Governor George Wallace, who had been pursuing a third-party presidential bid to give segregationists a voice, suspended his campaign, saying, “My mission has been accomplished.”

        1. Nixon was a complex man and president. Yeah, he bought into the "Southern Strategy." But he also signed into law a lot of good environmental bills, like creating the EPA; the National Environmental Policy Act; banning use of DDT, among others.

  4. So now many of the good people of the Sunshine State have promised to rebuild.

    To that end, their Republican Senators and Representatives (except for Matt Gaetz) have supported, and will support, federal assistance provided it contains no pork. (Pork = money that goes to projects important to other people but not me.)

    The funding for the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy in 2012, for instance, was pork against which Little Marco Rubio proudly voted.

    But here is what really pisses me off. These people want to take my tax dollars and yours to rebuild homes and businesses which will be swept away in a couple years when the next “Storm of the Century” arrives. And they will do it again and again and again.

    Many of these same people in Florida seeking handouts from the federal government are the same clowns who had a hissy fit over Biden’s student loan forgiveness program because they didn’t go to college. 

    Well, I wasn’t stupid enough to build a house at sea level in an area known for hurricane strikes and then decide that I didn’t need insurance on the property.

    Why should I have to pay for their mistakes.

    Least you think I am completely cold-hearted, I would not be opposed to a one-time federal government payment for relocation to an inland venue – we can call it “Stipends for the Stupid.”  

  5. The Boebert story is accurate in reporting from the boondocks. That’s predictably Republican no matter what. The reporter should have spent some time in Pueblo, where Frisch needs to win big, and Mesa County, where Boobert did win big two years ago. Pueblo is the key so it needs more than drive-by reporting.

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