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June 07, 2012 03:03 PM UTC
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For some, like Boyles and Sampson per yesterdays diary, the birther issue can never be resolved.
I believe the birther mentality is rooted in racism. The birthers are almost exclusively middle aged white males who I believe cannot accept the fact a black man had the ability to get himself elected as President of the United States.
Since they can’t come right out and overtly express their racism (and some may not even consciously be aware of it), the birther issue exists to de-legitimatize Obama’s presidency since a black man can’t possibly be president, just like a non-native born citizen can’t be president.
In this context, the birther issue will never go away for them unless Obama somehow miraculously turns white.
Just saying. Thoughts and opinions on this welcome.
birtherism with racism. Because of their sensitivity to the issue, and the effects of racism in their lives, I think they are probably right. Other things that make our President unacceptable to racists is that he identifies with being urban (Chicago) more so than suburban (Kansas), he is well-traveled (multi-cultural), well-educated (damned elitist!), and born in Hawaii (where the Hell is Hawaii, they say?). He’s got a rich background of all the things they find suspicious.
and Mitt’s bio:
– urban (Detroit & Boston)
– well-traveled (30 mos in France avoiding Vietnam)
– well-educated (elitist JD & MBA from Harvard)
– private prep schools
– born in Detroit (what the Hell happened there)
– silver-spooned son of AMC CEO and MI Gov
but even though Mitt’s dad was foreign born (Mexico) he was white and that is the difference. Obama is biracial but the birthers/racists only see the half-black part. To them any part black makes you all black and all suspect.
play up the rural aspect of their biographies to the max. Since the closing of the frontier, only FDR, JFK, and Obama made no bones about being city guys. All the rest were “farm boys,” even though most left for the big city as soon as they were old enough and never looked back. Still, a lot of people romanticize our rural heritage so it usually works.
Not the “rags to riches / self-made man rich”, or the “I grew up rich but my parents made me work for a living and appreciate every penny rich” like the Kennedys or Jared Polis.
I grew up in the working class neighbhorhood near the wealthy suburb where he grew up, just outside of Detroit. His neighborhood had lush rolling hills with huge trees, and manors and estates. When I was a kid, a wealthy person (my brother was friends with their nanny) took pity on our large struggling family and sent me to camp for a week near where he grew up. Camp, as in “back to nature“. Romney probably never mowed his own lawn, or dug a hole, or washed his own car in his entire life (I take that back — he did say he washed off the diarrhea from his terrified, traumatized dog Seamus after forcing him to ride cross-country tied to the roof). The man does not know the meaning of the word “work”.
Nothing makes me more furious than the lying commercials he showed in Detroit prior to the primary. In them, he drives through working class and middle income neighborhoods as if he grew up in them. I assure you those are not the neighborhoods his family drove through when he was a kid! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
Just tell the truth about it. The Buddah was rich. He seemed to use it for good.
Here is the area Romney grew up in. Hardly, a typical Detroiter! http://www.mlsfinder.com/mi_re…
Haven’t you listened to a thing Mike Coffman wrote?
ORLY?
Sadly there are just as many angry white women of age or economic status that cloak their racism with the same disguise.
Still, good point. I think ally was probably thinking of the visible and vocal types, who usually are male, but the ordinary racists are definitely well represented by both genders.
since they come from the universe of people who would never in a zillion years vote for Obama anyway, continued pandering to them doesn’t gain Repugs anyone they don’t already have. Most of the really extreme wingnut (the wingnuts’ wingnuts, so to speak) crowd, like some of those cousins of my husband I’ve met mentioned, aren’t going to vote for Romney anyway because he’s not anywhere near right enough and he belongs to a (in their view) heathen cult. Just avoiding out and out condemning birtherism won’t be enough to get them on board.
Blocking Obama doesn’t loom so large with this particular subset as they think Romney is pretty much just as bad. Like the 2000 Nader crowd, they vote their own way to make a point. Anything so rational as strategic voting isn’t their thing. You may also recall that all the attempts to paint Obama as the dangerous, America hating “other” failed to do the trick in 2008. The things to really worry about lie elsewhere.
Citizens United era righty money is a far bigger threat. If you’re going to keep reminding us to be in despair over something, as if we’re all bubble heads who think everything is peachy, how about picking something like that?
Why don’t you sit down and write a list of all the people who can be discounted because “they were never going to vote for Obama anyway”….then add them up and tell us again how the dems will win in 2012.
Yes, I am breaking my rule of not responding to the dem “official” response of any news contrary to the pollyanna myth makers. 1) Ignore 2) Belittle and ridicule 3) Repeat.
You know, like in 2010.
is not going to change that opinion by November.
Democrats can write that demographic off. Republican, OTOH, I think have to keep beating that drum to keep necessary constituencies going to the polls. As you note – they vote – but some of them only if the GOP keeps up the crazy.
Make a factual assertion.
I think it’s in the realm of ~35%, and elections as always are won in the middle, in the swing states.
I think Obama will win similarly to how Bennet beat Buck.
What is the response when people have illusions or even delusions and then are confronted with a reality that is hard for them to refute? Anger and hostility.
I rest my case.
“I, dwyer, assert that the number of voters Polsters declare “would never vote for Obama anyway” is 60% and you must find a way to chip that number down.”
You put the above in a quote block. This is not my statement.
Okay, I am done here people. Fight among yourselves.
And what is the response when people say the same stupid shit over and over regardless of the situation because it suits their purposes?
Anger and hostility.
By “stupid shit” I mean:
That is your statement. Anyone who thought you wrote what I put in the box above would have to be dumber than you.
Liar.
60% obviously never was and isn’t the percentage of those who would never vote for Obama because…ummm… he won the presidency.
I’m sick to death of dwyer’s clueless broken record routine and straw man arguments to the effect that we all need constant warning and criticism because we are all ignorant “pollyanna myth makers” who brook no criticism of Obama or Dem leadership and think everything is just great and Obama is sure to win in a landslide even if we don’t lift a finger, which we won’t because, besides being mindless cheerleaders, we’re also lazy.
Have I left anything out? What’s being left out by dwyer is a scrap of evidence that this site is rife with leftie posts expressing views anything like those.
Yes, the birther stuff can drum up already existing support and may get more of them to go out and vote but the ceiling is the ceiling and, last I heard, the birther ceiling wasn’t even as much as 35% of the general voting population, much less 60%. There is also the counter productive (for the GOP) reality of middling voters who are as turned off by birtherism as the crackpots are turned on.
Let’s worry about things really worth worrying about like all that damn money, the destruction of the unions as a force to help Dems get anywhere near competing with Rs and their corporate donors for bucks, poterntial massive voter suppression, potential for another economic or foreign policy disaster before the election and other truly scary stuff.
The same people who voted for McCain are going to vote for Rmoney. No difference between the two and these people are locked in. The real question is how is Rmoney going to appeal to the 5-10% truly gettable by both sides? Not by pandering to the anti-choice nuts, the imigration zealots, the birthers, the old angry white men, southerners, Mormans, rich white guys,about 90% of those who self identify as “Evangelicals,” or any of the other people he pandered to in the Primary and is still pandering to.
He needs to pander to Country Club Republicans (the few who are left), undecided women (the few who are left), and the disaffecteds (a growing group, including me who hate everyone). He’s done nothing to do that. Really, it’s the upper middle class suburbanites who are socially liberal, couldn’t give a shit about the fact that Obama is black, care deeply that Rmoney pays a lesser percentage of his income in taxes than we do, who know that it takes both cuts and tax increases and are mostly like me, middle aged with 20’s somethings kids who are pissed as hell that the budget surplusses which would have paid off the deficit by the time our kids were our age were wiped out by wars, tax cuts which mainly benefitted the wealthy and the profligate spending of George Bush and crew. How do you think Rmoney is going to get us? Remember, we don’t like the wars, don’t like the tax cuts for the rich, and know who and what caused this recession. We’re not stupid, we’re not low information voters, we don’t buy all the BS either party is feeding us.
This is going to be decided in the suburbs of Denver and Orlando and Des Moines and Boston and Raleigh and Washington D.C. and Columbus and Phoenix and Las Vegas. We’re pissed, we vote and we’ve watched Rmoney change his mind, pander to every right-wing cause there is, continue to obfuscate about his background and what he did when he actually did work. He’s not one of us and he’ll never be able to get us to think that he is one of us. We know what the super rich look like (most of us work for them in one capacity or another) and it ain’t us.
Rmoney’s got tax cuts (which we don’t want) illegal immigration (which we don’t care about) opposition to abortion and contraception (which we just think is the silliest thing we have ever heard) the budget deficit (which he has no plans to fix in any meaningful way – we know it means higher taxes and changes to social program) opposition to Obama’s health care (which many of us know about and have benefitted in some way – my 25 year old daughter can’t get health insurance because she had cancer – and don’t care about the mandate because we think that those who don’t have it are just freeloading kids who will get injured or sick and then just declare bankruptcy) and on and on.
With Obama there’s some safety in knowing that like all Democratic Presidents that there are some limits on what he can do (especially with the filibuster mess in the Senate) and we have some comfort there. In addition, most of thinks the whole Bush tax cuts thing was ridiculous and that the whole thing should just be canned so we’re happy with divided government which will just let them expire altogehter because we can afford and want to pay the extra $3,000 a year if our kids can have a better future.
Really, Rmoney is going to appeal to us? Not with the crap he has been putting out for the last year. And not with the nut cases that control his party and control him. Oh, and yeah, there’s a bit of discomfort with his Mormanism. It’s secretive, has some weird ideas and is clique-ish as hell.
So I say, how the hell do you expect Rmoney to get any more than the 47% McCain got last time??? Give me just one new idea. I know you can’t, because the Republican party hasn’t had a new idea in 30 years since they interested the supply side voodoo economics which we are smart enough to know don’t make sense. Gives tax breaks to multi-millionaires and they’re going to create jobs. We bought that once. But no more. It just doesn’t work.
Idiot.
As a Vietnam-era veteran myself, McCain’s heroism meant a lot to me. In the end, I voted Obama, but I had to think long and hard. Independent-minded vets like me aren’t going to be drawn to a draft-dodger like Romney.
… that the really hard right are going to be asking themselves what they’re going to do. The not-Romney phenomenon was quite the thing to behold, and I’m not sure how many of those people are willing to hold their noses and vote for Romney just to get Obama out of office.
I’ll admit that I’m unsure about whether the hard right shares the same tendency to purity that their counterparts on the hard left have. One of the things valued by right wingers is discipline, and I can visualize most anti-gubnit types voting Romney more easily than I can see OWS people turning out for Obama. Especially if he gets some teabag darling like Paul Ryan as his running mate.
Do you think that the Wisconsin win for Walker, et.al.
increases the likelihood that Romney will choose Paul
Ryan as a VP candidate?
I understand that running mates are supposed to address perceived shortcomings of the nominee, and Romney may well have had the most trouble convincing his party to support him of any presumed front runner with the advantages Mitt enjoyed. All that tells me is that, like McCain before him, he needs to appease the base with a wingnut selection. Ryan seems the most likely to me, just because of his high profile and lack of controversy.
I suppose Walker’s victory will embolden the hardliners, and in that respect that makes it more certain that Mitt’s running mate will be one. Whether that one is Ryan or not, I don’t know. I guessed him because, of all the high profile teabaggy GOPers I can think of, he’s been the only one who doesn’t have any baggage I can think of, such as Michelle Bachman’s crazy eyes, Herman Cain’s nutty ads and statements, Palin’s opportunism and the way she quit her governorship (and already has taken this ride), Walker’s peaks and valleys… He probably won’t select any of the nomination also-rans anyway – it’s rare that either major party candidate picks someone they beat for the nomination these days.
Obama beat, then picked, Biden.
Kerry beat, then picked, Edwards.
Clinton beat, then picked, Gore.
I had to look that up. In 2008, Biden only made it as far as Iowa and dropped out after placing fifth. I think, given that he was never a serious candidate (meaning he was never within the top tier of candidates, and given that he retired after only one contest), that we can only give him half credit as a candidate. Edwards (one of the two examples I had in mind, the other being George Bush in 1980) was a much more serious candidate.
But… Gore did NOT run in 1992. He did in 1988, but I’m thinking of the old way in which a defeated candidate for the nomination was typically nominated VP for the sake of party unity.
and made a good impression, enough to attract Obama. Hillary, of course, would have been the obvious unity candidate but she’s not in the habit of being a number two. The classic modern one, of course , was JFK/LBJ.
But you’re right about Gore, I forgot he did not run in 92, he said he was concerned about his son.
People used to say that about Jews. All religions have weird ideas.
Someone here predicted that in the end it would be Democrats who would have a problem with Romney’s religion. Certainly not true for all of us, but I see more of it coming from the left.
It bothers me.
The only reason Mormonism’s ideas seem weird to more garden variety Christians is because all the weird stuff supposedly happened in the near historic past. The weird miracles described in Christian and Jewish holy writings are conveniently relegated to the misty, distant past. Not that God impregnating a virgin so he can be born in the flesh and then be tortured to death doesn’t sound pretty weird to Jews. Just sayin’.
Jews. on the other hand have been viewed with deep suspicion because of the whole God slaughtering first born sons thing and skipping Jewish households that had their door posts marked with blood… I swear it was supposed to be lamb’s blood, not the blood of little gentile children but we got a lot of bad press for centuries.
So let’s just leave each others’ ancestral religions out of it please? One of the reasons the non-main stream ones seem cliquish is because you tend to stick together when the mainstream isn’t your friend.
If someone has been unemployed or underemployed for the last several years. Or they have a close family member in the position…
Then they are going to primarily care about one thing – who’s going to bring the jobs back. And on that issue I think Romney wins because Obama clearly won’t/can’t. Romney might.
We can discuss until the cows come home how Congress limited Obama’s options. We can discuss all the things Obama has accomplished. We can discuss all the other issues on which Obama will be better. But if you don’t have a job, it’s all secondary.
Maybe trumps no.
It turns out that GOP CU Regent candidate Matt Arnold’s Master’s Degree from John Hopkins University err… isn’t a Master’s Degree from John Hopkins University.
http://coloradopolitics.freedo…
Looks like Dan Maes might have some competition for biggest fraud to ever run for statewide office in the state.
don’t count me out yet.
I completed the graduate-level Air Command and Staff College through the Air University, US Air Force. I didn’t attend in residence at Maxwell Air Force Base; I attended seminars at Peterson AFB and the Academy.
I list that as a Master’s level degree on my resume.
Up until last week I was a major party candidate, running for the same office as Matt Arnold.
http://www.sos.state.co.us/pub…
Doesn’t that make me at least his equal in the fraud department ?
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fortunately, we were able to find a very strong candidate to replace me for the General election in November.
He will be the most exciting candidate statewide, including the Presidential race.
Watch this space for an announcement!
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So stop being a tease and say it already!
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By the time he turns 18, which I hope is before the election in November, who knows how much better he will get ?
This is someone who will be applying to attend CU, starting in the Fall, 2013. Wouldn’t it be something to have an incoming freshman as a Regent ?
Today, since Regent is an unpaid position, the Board tends to attract candidates from among the 1%ers. Tyler would bring a fresh perspective of someone with a vested personal stake in Board decisions.
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It doesn’t work. People know better.
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but CoPols always has such inneresting stuff, so I got sucked in to logging on.
disappointed to see that the Denver paper that is not to be named has better reporting on the Lamborn story than this site.
Tom Tancredo or Charlie Duke!!!
That’s a blast from the past. What is he doing now. Last time I saw that bozo was at a state Republican Central Committee meeting after the 1992 election where many of us moderate Republicans had helped elect Democrats like Mike Feeley. I remember a yelling match between me and Charlie where I announced that he was next. Reported in the Statesman. Hahahahahaha. What a great memory.
I’m a SMPTE level one broadcast engineer…or was when I was in military broadcasting.
I have an Associates degree from the Community College of the Air Force in Graphic Design, and several training certificates in advanced video editing from Avid, Autodesk (discreet at the time) and Adobe.
The CU system says I qualify for 3 credit hours of Physical education if I try to enroll for any degree program. Several broadcasting entities have told me that none of my education is “practical experience” because it happened in “the military.”
So, yes, any military person applying for work in the civilian world is a fraud.
Glad to be in your company.
then no, you shouldn’t be calling it that on your resume.
But, that’s a gut level reaction coming from someone who has never plumbed the depths of graduate school; and although I once worked with a major corporation’s HR department (on filing closed job requisitions), I was not in that department and did not learn what they look for on resumes, nor whether they would consider your listing as legitimate, or fudging, or fraud. So don’t change anything on my account…
In Matt Arnold’s case, though, it sounds like it’s a lot more cut and dried, per ajb’s comment.
If he weren’t running for CU Regent.
After all, everybody who got a Master’s at SAIS put a lot more work into it than he did.
Matt Arnold wants to be a Regent for our state university system and he pulls this kinda BS? This ClearTheBench parasite needs to crawl back under his rock.
“Captain Arapahoe” needs some schoolin’
The 1-year diploma is not a Master’s degree. SAIS makes this abundantly clear on their website. The degree programs and diploma programs are listed separately.
http://www.jhubc.it/ACADEMICS/…
In academics, there’s a world of difference between taking a few classes and completing a degree.
just like no ethical issue with putting out a hit piece on ill-gotten letterhead.
Capt Arapahoe’s world is fun!
Matt Arnold is not fit for this office. Now I’ll give it to him for leading Clear the Bench. Of course it failed, but A for effort.
Arnold has embedded himself as a firm right activist, but his educational lying like the former Yahoo CEO is not acceptable when he’s running for CU Regent or anything above dog catcher.
I confirmed this over the last two weeks with consultants who handle Colorados top GOP electeds. Unfortunately having Arnold as a CU is not good for the GOP.
So, wtf, you should be running the Yes campaign for this guy …. you remeber … like when you guys backed DanMaes.
Since when do YOU have access to “consultants who handle Colorados top GOP electeds”? If you’re up in the GOP mucky muck, that party is even more fucked than I imagined.
And explain what the hell you’re talking about when you claim anyone other than confirmed cons backed Maes. The GOP would have lost “major party” status if he had received less than 10% of the votes. If the Dems were up to any dirty tricks (of which there’s not a bit of evidence, let’s make that clear), it wouldn’t have been to their benefit to support Maes over Tancredo.
Or maybe you mean when the primary was looming and the news 0f McInnis’ plagiarism broke? The Dems weren’t behind that.
I’m talking real leaders, those who don’t rely on profit and poverty pimps for strategic advice or hall passes to piss.
It’s quite well known that win or lose Stephens is not coming back into any substantial leadership position …. heck she probably loses to Looper anyway.
to have a GOP US Rep (Coffman’s mine) let him know what you think about standing against the military on biofuels.
This from VoteVets
It’s a petition to the to the Republicans in congress to stop opposing the military’s plan to increase our security and reduce the need for blood oil by focusing on increased use of a biofuels. Imagine, not only the strategic benefits of the military becoming a major consumer of biofuels but what it would do for the entire green energy economy. It’s a win/ win for everyone but the GOP’s overlords don’t see it that way.
You can find the petition here:
http://act.credoaction.com/cam…
Annoying calls from constituents are actually better than mass petitions, though petitions are an OK part of the mix. Coffman especially needs to be asked if he opposes the military on this and if so why. Sounds like another job for reporter Kyle Clark?
Youve seen the data and it ain’t pretty
Hard to turn The Second Republican Great Depression around in a few years with what was a too small stimulus package.
Obama inherited the destruction. I know that’s a brain exploder, but that’s fact.
…who’s also the Sierra Club’s National Military Families and Veterans Representative:
http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com…