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April 24, 2012 03:39 PM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

  • by: Colorado Pols

“He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.”

–Benjamin Franklin


24 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. This sounds like a good ol’ time. Si?

    Our Speakers Will Be: Ed Jones — 740 KVOR Radio Host and Republican Activist Congressman Scott Tipton via the phone Derrick Wilburn — Rocky Mountain Black Tea Party Ryan Parsell — Americans For Prosperity Sean Verhoeff — Young Conservative Leaders of Colo. Matt Arnold — Organizer of Clear The Bench — CU Regent Candidate. Joe Arbuckle — Retired Major Gen. US Army Michael Barrera — Regional Director for The Libre Initiative Web site Dan Maes: Republican Gubernatorial Tea Party Candidate 2010 Bring your Family and Friends!! It will be a Great Rally!! “Don’t Forget your Signs”

    (I did the bold thing, myself–as far as teh hosts were concerned, it seems they are pretty equally excited about the whole thing.…  

    1. Tea Party holds Tax Day Rally Speakers ask audience to work for GOP candidates, values

      even old Ken Buck-inator was dragged outta his political respite to blow some dog whistles.  Seems about 100 folks gathered together to hear from their esteemed leaders;  leaders like Former State Sen. Edward Jones:

      … blasted Obama saying that those who voted for him made the biggest mistake in the history of the country.

      Jones and other speakers at the event called on conservatives and Republicans to back presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

      “We got to get behind him so we can send Obama packing . . . The village is missing its idiot and we are going to send him back to Kenya.”

      Birthers, racists and idiots united to further those GOP values!

  2. If you can’t kill it in one committee, send it to another and then, if necessary, the real and final kill committee.

    SB-15 to allow undocumented children of illegals attend college at a lower tuition rate passed the House Education Committee thanks to Republican Rep. Tom Massey.

    Now it goes to House Fiance and as Tim Hoover of the Denver Daily reports:

    Despite the bill clearing Massey’s committee, it may face a tougher time before the House Finance Committee, where it heads next and most observers expect it to die. If it survives, it passes on to the House Appropriations Committee.

    So close…damn. We all know that Approriations is McNulty’s ultimate kill committee, black hoods and all.

    1. because this is such a perfect companion to yours, Dan. This from Mrs. Mittens , the one who has been seen as a big asset, better able to connect with normal people than her strange mate. From the just folks Mrs.:

      “My hats off to the men in this room too that are raising kids – I love that, and I love the fact that there are also women out there that don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids,” (my emphasis) Romney said. “Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us.”

      She loves that other women ( not her, of course) have no choice and actually imagines that she can put her life difficulties on a par with those of women facing the same challenges she faces while also struggling to make a living, pay the bills and facing the loss of any ability to keep health insurance or pay for healthcare without first losing all their assets and descending to poverty. And through what policies do she and Mitt plan to “value” them? She’s supposed to humanize Mittens?

    1. some of the other candidates listed for this distinction have a much better chance.

      Still, if it generates enough extra money, combined with the nature of the newly drawn district, to make a considerable dent in the usual 2 to 1 CD6 GOP win and especially if the seat opens in 2014, Dems could have a lot of high level support and a really good shot at CD6 in the 2014 election under the right political, economic and crisis du jour conditions.

      That makes a solid D volunteer and funding effort for Miklosi right now much more important and worthwhile than has been the case in previous CD6 campaigns, in which all the time and effort just seemed like banging our heads against a wall and flushing our money down the toilet.  

      1. I have witnessed that it is not unusual to be leery of new freedoms and new possibilities once presented to us. It is our nature to be suspicious when things start looking good after years of abuse and oppression. it’s called learned helplessness, and it is a very real psychological phenomenon.

        CD6 Democrats and Independents, (although not as extreme as the physically abused — I’m exaggerating her to make a point), have been politically abused for years. We have written to, called, faxed, and emailed Mike Coffman (and before him, extremist Tom Tancredo) and asked to have our concerns and viewpoints heard. Time and again, we have been ignored, shut down, put down, marginalized and insulted by their arrogant “my way or the highway” operations.

        As a result, our children have suffered from underfunded schools and misguided policies like NCLB. Our pristine environment has been desecrated and polluted by big Oil. Our home values and our life savings have taken hits from lack of financial systems regulation. Our families have been maligned and bullied by extremist, backward social views like DOMA and DADT, as well as threats to our civil liberties (Hyde and Blunt amendments, etc.) Under GOP extremists, our families have barely had a fighting chance to survive.

        It is only natural that we have a hard time believing getting real representation in DC6 is now mathematically within our reach. We need to stop doubting, stop licking our wounds from every other time, and devote all our spare minutes, hours and dollars to getting the job done.

        Game On.

      2. but I’m thinking about hitting an open house for Aurora tomorrow.  

        Biggest drawback for me is the fact that I’m pretty much a loner.

        Whaddya think, BC?  (I think like you I live in cough*choke*cough*Coffman’s district.

        1. Now I have to skip commenting Wed. altogether but since you ask and are new to this, I want to encourage you.  

          As I said in my comment above, whether or not there’s much chance of Miklosi winning (obviously Nancy and I take different views), this time there’s a chance of doing significantly better which can put the district on the path to a win in the near future for a Dem candidate.

          That’s what started my HD on the path to it’s first Dem rep in over 30 years and then later an upset Dem state senate win ( happy convergence of circumstances there) in my SD. It started with a failed Dem SD candidate getting much closer than anyone expected, making the HD, with which it largely overlapped, look competitive enough to get solidly targeted with Dem funds in the next election two years later.

          So go for it. Don’t just lurk. Volunteer.  

          You’ll also learn a lot about how it all works and have the opportunity to meet   like-minded people, probably make a new friend or two ( you said “loner” not “hermit”, right?), besides getting to meet Congress members, the Governor, etc. at events and you’ll get to talk to them. In Colorado, they are all very accessible during election time.

          1. Uphill climb in a District made worse bt redistricting, but he’s a really smart, hard working and common sense gifted candidate.

            His opponent’s been in hiding since taking the position from the very competent Sarah Gagliardi in the big teabag run in ’10.

            Women could well be the difference in HD27. Any Democratic lawmaker or candidte needs to be at Civic Center Saturday.

  3. From

    For years opponents of reproductive health and rights have used secret videotaping tactics with fictitious patient scenarios and selective editing to promote falsehoods about Planned Parenthood’s mission, services, and policies. Recently, one group has escalated these hoax visits in many states, apparently using secret recorders while inquiring about sex selection abortions…

    As a women’s rights advocate for nearly 100 years, Planned Parenthood finds the concept of sex selection deeply unsettling. Planned Parenthood does not offer sex determination services; our ultrasound services are limited to medical purposes.

    Gender bias is contrary to everything our organization works for daily in communities across the country.  Planned Parenthood opposes racism and sexism in all forms, and we work to advance equity and human rights in the delivery of health care. Planned Parenthood condemns sex selection motivated by gender bias, and urges leaders to challenge the underlying conditions that lead to these beliefs and practices, including addressing the social, legal, economic, and political conditions that promote gender bias and lead some to value one gender over the other.

    Recent attempts to restrict or deny access to safe abortion under the guise of preventing gender bias is harmful to women’s health, counter to a human rights agenda, and primarily a political tactic of groups who work to make abortion illegal. Planned Parenthood opposes legislation that intrudes on the doctor/patient relationship by requiring doctors to become investigators and patients their suspects, and that strips nonjudgmental, high-quality care from women in need.

    The world’s leading women’s health and rights organizations, including the World Health Organization, do not believe that curtailing access to abortion services is a legitimate means of addressing sex selection, and are clear that gender bias can only be resolved by addressing the underlying conditions that lead to it.  And we agree. We support efforts that ensure girls and women have access to economic opportunity, including fair wages, basic health care, political participation, education, and a life free of violence and discrimination. Planned Parenthood works to ensure women and their families have access to high-quality nonjudgmental health services free of coercion, supported by information and counseling.

    From the questions that were repeatedly asked in these recent hoax visits, we expect that the materials eventually released will focus on Planned Parenthood’s non-judgmental discussions with the various women who posed as possible patients. So, we would like to address that subject directly.

    Planned Parenthood insists on the highest professional standards, which among other things means we offer nonjudgmental, confidential care in accordance with relevant laws.  That doesn’t mean we always agree with the decisions made by people who seek our help, but it does mean that we realize that we can’t know all of the circumstances faced by any patient and that requiring women to justify the care they seek is a dangerous health care model for an organization. Four decades ago women in the United States were forced to justify their decision to seek abortion to a panel of doctors, and thankfully we’ve come a long way since then. We provide information that women seek, but ultimately the decision to seek legal abortion is a private one.

    This is exactly like the campaign to end intact dilatation and extraction (D+X) or “partial birth” abortion; a wedge to repulse people who haven’t thought deeply about the issues.  The response intended is “look how repulsive “abortion on demand” is!”

    The alternative, as the writers above allude,   is abortion by request (pretty please?), with someone besides a woman and her doctor making her decisions for her.  In the case of cultures which devalue female children, these women have already had a bunch of men tell them what do do, and outlawing sex selection abortions will not change those cultures.  As much as sex selection abortion is repugnant, this also smacks of racism and cultural imperialism.

    Never mind the obvious cognitive dissidence of supposed “Christians” lying to entrap people in heavily edited recordings made without their permission, the bottom line comes down to this: Can women be trusted with the freedom to control their reproductive lives as they please?  A powerful political faction that steers the Republican party believes not.  

    Of the four principles of medical ethics, I value patient autonomy above all else.  You educate patients about their options and let them choose what they feel is best for them.  If you believe in freedom, you believe in people making decisions you might not agree with.

    1. And, this is a great argument for teaching classical ethics from a young age on. Respect for others, nd essential element towards building a real freedom in society,can be taught.  

  4. http://business-news.thestreet

    Over selling Denver as a homeless destination and over committing state and city resources to serve this population have put Denver in a lead position, but not one to be proud of.

    Add to this the Occupy Denver efforts of the left and an extended recession which have resulted in Denver exceeding its homeless capacity. Just yesterday there was a DP article on the lack of poverty level housing stock.

    Sure you could blame it on the developers for over estimating the work economy and under estimating those on public assistance or worse.

    However, we must come back to the facts … Denver’s a top homeless destination and the left economic schemes have only help to accelerate the total population at or below poverty.

    The inside downtown crowd and those small businesses which have invested in profit seeking activities are now facing a manufactured homeless problem with serious implications.

    Hint: stop feeding them, they’re like bears, they forage at campsites. Take down the “Bears Welcome Here” signs.

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