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June 28, 2022 11:45 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“What is a spin doctor but a serial euphemizer?”

–Nigel Rees

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34 thoughts on “Wednesday Open Thread

  1. Looks like Doug Lamborn’s charmed existence in politics continues unabated…

    He survives to go on for another term by getting 48% of the primary vote while his three opponents carved up the other 52%.

    ref=”https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/CO/113964/web.285569/#/detail/116″ rel=”nofollow ugc”>Representative to the 118th United States Congress – District 5 – Republican Party – Election Night Reporting (clarityelections.com)

    Then again it was nice seeing Dave Williams lose.

      1. Yes, it will be good to see Dave W go. He’ll still be instigating and attention whoring until January 2023- then he can go back to working in his stepdad’s Chinese import-export biz. 

        He can join Dr. Chaps and Doug Bruce in the collection of whack jobs HD 15 has spit out, then mercifully faded into obscurity.

  2. We Republicans purged out some of our crazies (Saine, Hanks, Peters, Williams, to name four). We didn’t bag Boebert, but that was a long shot. For now, as of today, I’ll offer my thoughts on some November races.

    Governor, likely Democrat    US Senator, leans Democrat

    Cong. District 7, leans Democrat   Cong. District 8, toss-up

    Sec. of State, toss-up    Attorney Gen., leans Democrat

    Treasurer, toss-up      Colorado House control, safe Democrat

    Colorado Senate control, leans Democrat 

    1. CHB, I agree with most of your predictions except I would place CD 8 as "leans Republican." Unless the inflation rate drops in the next four months, folks will be angry and want to vent at the party in the White House.

      (I know. Biden didn't cause the inflation but since when have details like that factored into how people vote. Remember, with hundreds of thousands of people in this country dead from COVID, Trump still got 74 million votes.)

      While Kirkmeyer may not have the most pleasant personality, she is considered something of a relatively non-crazy viz-a-viz Lori Saine.

      Obviously, had the GOP run Kevin Priola, they would probably have this seat in the bag and be able to turn their resources towards CD 7. So, we probably avoid losing CD 7 and end up with a four-to-four split in the House delegation next year.

      1. I think CD8 is going to be the one to watch nationwide this year. I must say that Kirkmeyer strikes me as someone who seems to always be one step away from blowing herself up on a land mine (metaphorically speaking of course). So the real question will be can she remain sure-footed from now to Nov. with her party exploding all around her?

        Dr. C seems to be a competent campaigner and will be tough to beat.

        As I said: one of the more interesting ones to watch.

        1. Kirkmeyer isn't going to waltz away with this one.  She has been unabashedly anti-immigrant in a district that is about 40% Hispanic and won't be able to walk any of it back in the General.  Couple that with a revulsion by rational people of what the Supreme Court has become and Trump and her path to victory isn't a given.  She can't win with just the far right crazies.  Boebert might be in better shape in her district but it's also not a given at this point.

          1. Bimbobert received 80,363 votes to Coram's 42,693. 

            The combined total for the Dems was 55,147.

            Assume that Frisch or Sandoval Tafoya picks up 100% of the Dem primary votes in November (55,194), Frisch or Sandoval Tafoya would need to pick up 65% of Coram's votes (27,750) to edge out Bimbobert's 80,363.

            I suppose absolutely anything is possible. Maybe a lot of Coram's votes were U's and available to the Dem nominee come November. (There did appear to be a spike in U's voting in CD 3.)

            1. A lot of unaffiliated's didn't vote in the primary so your math is suspect.  Pols puts Boebert's chances at 80% which is less than Crow's 98% but still puts her in the 'sure to win unless indicted' column.

    2. Hmmm
      dems keep the Governorship, state legislature and all state offices easily. The 7th and 8th will go dem easily.
      Dems will lose the house and senate easily.
      Biden will lose in 2024 easily to trump if he runs.
      There are no moderate republicans. The turnout in colo will not be depressed enough to get republicans elected. Republicans can't win any other way in this state. They have hit a ceiling in Colo and don't have enough bigots to support them to win a majority. Mail in voting that gives people the chance to vote easily is why republicans can't win as the people have a voice.

      Nazis purging fascist don't mean much when the 3rd reich is still in control.

  3. A big thanks to the Colorado Democrat party and the Dick-wad-ams wing of the Republican Party for selecting Romney republican Joe O’Dea for Senate candidate. Not only will Trump supporters voters for O’Dea but the low-information votes will feel better about themselves and vote for O’Dea. 

    Senator Thurston Howell, III will now have a competitive race. Good thinking Democrats.

      1. What was the name of the Pol Cat that always railed about Bennett and later moved to CA? He always called Bennett Thurston Howell III.

    1. Joe o'dea is not moderate. There are no republican moderates. State dems haven't insulted voters like National dems have. I can tolerate state dems with little problem although they do little to help. Not interested in republicans bigotry, or fascism for oligarchs coming to our state. Cons would do better to focus on Bennet and house dems that have betrayed their base and the people. I don't think it will work but it is their only chance to have any power in our state. If republicans ever got control of colorado it would be the last fair election we would have and even less would be done to help the people. This independent will not even consider any of the republicans running. Some dems can get my money and vote, but they are few.

    1. At 6:45 Wednesday she had him by less than a point. The mandated recount (less than half a point) means it’ll be at least a couple of days before we know who won.

  4. And Liz Cheney’s got a plan for her August primary: Enlist moderate Dems. Wish her luck. And that’s kind of weird, because this is Liz Cheney we’re talking about and “abortion trigger ban” Wyoming.

    But she has redeemed herself in many eyes by being a true law-and-order Constitution-upholding lawmaker, so yeah. Good luck, Liz. 

    1. No, I would never vote for a republican fascist murderer like Cheney. She will lose. She is no better than any other republican traitor. Dems sucking up to her fascism is quite disgusting but to be expected. After all dems fought against progressive candidates and for anti choice democrats like Hennery Cuellar so we know the hollow words of the dem party as well.

  5. Dems will keep colo blue.
    Dems will keep the state legislature blue.
    Dems will lose the house and senate big time by historic numbers for their inaction on the national level. 
    This is all obvious.
    Republicans for governor and senate have no chance of taking power in Colorado. We have fair elections and a high voter turnout, republicans can't win with fair elections. They are too extreme for our state.
    But republicans have no problem passing federal policy to rule our state like dems do. There is no leadership, no party to vote for. Only a party to vote against and that shaming is losing it's power.

    1. “inaction on the national level………”

      So, in your world, the infrastructure bill didn’t happen? The recent bill to implement some modest changes in gun laws didn’t happen?

      1. The infrastructure bill, in the eyes of people like "Denise," is the misuse of tax dollars to build highways, bridges, airports, etc. to be used by the rapacious capitalist exploiters of the masses to accumulate even more wealth and to further fuck over the proletariat.

      2. In my world the trump republican infrastructure bill for the rich was fascist right wing trash to push asset recycling to privatize our resources and services. It is not policy for the General Welfare. Or do dems think Joe Manchin is a progressive populist for the people now. I laugh when dems try to sell republicans policy as a victory as they make the trump tax cuts for the rich permanent as they do nothing to repeal them. Kinda like dems want to sell the right wing ACA as some great victory for corporate fascism as they made the Bush tax cuts for the rich permanent. Clinton made the Reagan tax cuts for the rich permanent, deregulated the banks and destroyed welfare. That’s what dems want to sell me as victory and a reason to vote for them…. now that is funny.

  6. Having Rudy as a father and that bizarre, skeevy public statement re: checking out his infant daughter's junk helped get Andrew Giuliani a one-way ticket to a major ass-whupping in the New York GOP gubernatorial primary.

    That's nice and all, but closer to home, congrats and props to Colorado Republicans for curb-stomping the crazy low-lifes in those statewide races. Looks like the distinction between the hardcore party faithful who attend  assemblies and everyone else was well and truly on display.

  7. Denver has updated results.  Our Whiskey Lima Juliet won the regents race. Yay.   Abolish the Police Zealot Elisabeth Epps won the House District 6 race.  Sigh.

    1. Denver is still counting, and there are enough ballots left that these super close races could still flip either way. We are hoping to be done with everything by end of day Thursday.

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