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November 17, 2021 06:42 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain.”

–Lily Tomlin

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26 thoughts on “Wednesday Open Thread

    1. In addition … https://www.denverpost.com/2021/11/16/tina-peters-mesa-county-elections-ethics-complaint/ Denver Post: “Ethics commission deems complaint against Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters “non-frivolous” ”

      Sounds like Tina Peters has a bit of homework to do in the next 30 days.  Going to be interesting to hear the rationale for accepting goods and services already referred to on friends’ social media accounts.

      1. Manchin might want to chew on this one: 

        The middle 60% now own less wealth than the top 1%. 

        • In 1989, the American middle class claimed 36% of the nation’s wealth. The top 1% owned less than double that share: 17%.
           
        • The middle class’s share has steadily declined since then, while that of the super-rich has skyrocketed.
           
        • This year, for the first time ever, the top 1% owns a greater share of U.S. wealth than the middle 60%.

         

  1. The "Shaman" is heading from moms basement to the pokey. On ice for 41 months.  Plenty of time to reflect about how much of a loser you have been. 

      1. The " rugged individualist " look is hard to pull off when you're not really, well, a rugged individualist.  He's Braveheart, but on a strict organic diet.

        1. I was just going to ask about his future dietary regiment.  Gawdess, the incarcerated rich eat better than children of the poor. 

          Last week, a federal judge ordered that Chansley should be given organic food after several requests and an apparent hunger strike, claiming non-organic food was against his religion and sickened him. Chansley’s demand and the subsequent judge’s decision exuded privilege in a system that has a reputation of serving inmates bland and sometimes unsafe meals, advocates say.

            1. If Buffalo Man could transform himself into a woman and join the Dominican Sisters of Peace he might have a shot through the eco-spirituality portion of their mission.  I ran across this order at St Catharanes College in Kentucky a few years back.  Great old nuns – they had an organic farm on the campus (which has now been shuttered) for their food supply and Wendell Berry (at the time) ran his operations from St. Catharanes. 

            2. I think possibly The First SCOTUS Church of Home Depot? . . .

              . . . anyone (corporations are people, too) can have SCOTUS upheld individual religious beliefs these days, as long as those beliefs are not totally wacky (you know, like Islam), or held by folks with pigmentation . . . 

              . . . either that, or maybe, a talking amphibian sent from above whispered into his buffalo horns?

              Remember, it can’t be a real religion without a bunch of crazy shit.

  2. The plight of small Colorado farms makes news in the latest edition of National Geographic

    Small farms battle speculators over centuries-old water rights in drought-stricken Colorado

    The centuries-old irrigation system sustains a unique and ancient culture that today faces unprecedented threats. Rising temperatures, declining snowpack, and record drought attributed to climate change dried up some acequias, forcing families to fallow fields and sell cattle. Extremes in weather in this Massachusetts-sized area are bringing farmers to their knees like nearly no place else in the United States. 

     

     

  3. Hickenlooper was just asked during his virtual town hall meeting what he would do to pass the John Lewis voting rights bills.  He said he was trying to get 60 votes.  OMG.  This contradicts what he said in an earlier town hall meeting where he committed to carving out the filibuster rules to vote for this legislation.  What a slime ball. 

    BTW – When is he going to hold a real town hall meeting where people can respond to bullshit answers like he just gave.

      1. This is what I reported he said at his 8/30/21 town hall meeting:

        After a whole bunch of "bipartisan" blah, blah, the money quote is that if they can't get 60 votes, then he'll support changing the filibuster rules in a carve out fashion. 

        To get to that conclusion, he cites:

        –"Troubling" transparent attempt by GOP state legislatures to disenfranchise Democratic voters.

        –Never before seen in his lifetime the scale of this attempt to alter the fundamental bedrock of our democracy.

        –We have to listen to GOP position because the CO voter laws, which are a model for the nation, were passed with bipartisan support so it should be possible for Congress.  {He said: Why not have mail-in ballots across the country with the government paying for the postage?}

        –But, if they can't get 60 votes for reasonable legislation, then "we should probably do it" (i.e., change the filibuster rules).  And, this will be front and center when they return to Congress.

        So, as Michael Bennet told me a couple of weeks ago, Hick is cagey but will eventually support a carve out of the filibuster rules to pass voting rights legislation.

        Phew!

        Tonight, he said none of that.  Instead, he just said he was "working hard" to get 60 votes.  Period.  And, of course, there was no way for anyone to ask a follow-up.  And, also of course, there is no way there will be 10 GOP votes for the legislation.

        Let's be clear about what's at stake.  Even more than the voter suppression measures being passed in GOP states, the more insidious laws allow GOP state legislatures to nullify the vote totals for federal elections and decide for themselves who won the election.  Those are the same GOP legislatures that still believe Trump won the election.  Hick will be a permanent minority Senator in a country that makes the House and the Senate moot; i.e., the end of American democracy.  What a f*ing moron.

         

        1. That's Hick, doing the "Try to please all, but please none" shuffle.   And then there's "Float the hypothetical as the unattainable ideal to show that your heart's in the right place." Also, "Say many words that mean very little".

          But frankly, he's still not in his predecessor Cory Gardner's league on that one.

          1. Of course he is not like Cory Gardner.  But, and this is huge, on the existential topic of voting rights, he is apparently no different if he allows the GOP to filibuster this legislation.  In France, they would label him a collaborator.

             

        2. Be careful what you wish for. What’s really at stake, if the filibuster goes away, is the ability to stop all sorts of Trump-inspired legislation if the Republicans take back the Senate next year.

          What goes on in states like Georgia, Texas, and others, with their ugly voter suppression efforts, have to be decided by people in those states.

          Many Republican legislators likely have potential scandalous behavior that is hidden. Some really good investigative reporting could bring those out. Remember Roy Moore in the Alabama senatorial election?

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