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November 28, 2011 12:26 AM UTC

We'll Stop Making Tebow Jokes If...

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  • by: Colorado Pols

UPDATE: Onward, Christian soldiers:

Even with John Elway saying this week that he’s still not sure if Tim Tebow is his man, Tebow, once again, led his team to victory. He did it in overtime when he led the Broncos on a six-play, 38-yard drive that resulted in a game-tying 24-yard field goal by Matt Prater, and he did it again in the final 2 minutes of overtime when Prater kicked a 37-yarder to win it 16-13…

And after it was over, the CBS cameras cut to the sideline and focused on Elway. Who had a wide smile on his face.

If he gets them to the playoffs, we’ll ask all of our readers to take a knee.

Including those of you a little uncomfortable with that.

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Let us pray:

Tebow will look to hush the critics once again when the Broncos visit the AFC West-rival San Diego Chargers Sunday at Qualcomm Stadium.

Don’t get us wrong, we want to believe.

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74 thoughts on “We’ll Stop Making Tebow Jokes If…

      1. he should stick to talking about football in post-game interviews. If he wants to pray privately to thank his savior, great. More power to him.

        No need for him to broadcast is weekly to the world. That’s clearly evangelism.

        You can’t seriously think it’s prejudice to be annoyed by endless self-satisfied proclamations of faith.

          1. And it’s up to me to decide if I’m annoyed by it.

            I have no problem with Christianity. I think many churches do incredible charity work. I work for a detox center and most the referrals available to us are religiously affiliated.

            I think you need to look up the word prejudice. Just because I’m annoyed that Mr Focus On The Family poster boy constantly needs to throw his religion into people’s faces, doesnt mean I’m prejudice toward his faith.

            1. You just proved it.

              Focus on the Family had no place in this discussion until you brought it up.  And it has no role in football whatsoever.

              You’re no different than the people who hate Muslims just because they are Muslims.

              Tebow pisses you off. And what pisses you off about Tebow is his public profession of his faith.  Admit it.  Then move on.

              Or better yet, just stuff it.  A man’s religion has nothing to do with what he does on the football field.

              Broncos beat asshole Philip Rivers 16-13.

              1. Focus on the Family was successful in being one of the few political organizations to ever air an issues ad during the Super Bowl.  Guess who they chose to highlight and which issue?

                Focus on the Family and Tim Tebow have a history that you can’t ignore.  Aaron wasn’t wrong to point out the connection.  You might need to do some Tebowing before your next post.

              2. what his religion is.

                He could be doing interviews praising Allah, Lord Zenu, Krishna, or even professing that there is no God and I would have the same reaction.

                I don’t need any religion (or lack thereof) shoved down my throat every Sunday. It doesn’t belong on the football field. If I wanted to attend a religious service, I would do so.

                And as Gilpen Guy pointed out, Tebow is the same guy who shot a Super Bowl commercial for anti-gay, anti-choice religious political group Focus on the Family. Tebow is the one making it an issue. Not me.

                1. I love that he doesn’t give a DAMN about what other people think and he honestly wears his convictions on his sleeve – such honesty is irrisistable when it is done inclusively.

                  And for what it is worth, while I am an interfaith practitioner, I am a gigantic sinner, but I am a lover of honesty.

                  Most importantly, I have never heard Tebow say something that is anti-Muslim, anti-gay, or anti-Semitic, a trait that I wish people of all faiths could conduct themselves under.  

                  1. I would never mock him for his faith.  My wife is an evangelical christian who is incredibly tolerant and liberal.  It bothers me when someone picks on him because of his faith

                    I mock Tim Tebow for his passing skills.  This season is being built on Von Doom, not Tim Tebow.

                    That said a win is a win and Tebow’s passes looked better (they should with almost unlimited time in the pocket).

                  2. And Elway and Fox are really starting to get on my nerves.  Give the guy a break and get behind him already – he’s winning games and getting better.  He completed a lot more passes last night and some of them were right on the money.

                    He has handled all this wishy washiness from the Broncos organization from the top down with incredible grace (sorry for the pun).

                    I don’t care if he is religious.  He looks like a good human being to me, and he has a boatload of class.

                    Tebow !

                2. Tebow’s kneeling and praying are his business. It’s more on the photojournalists showing it all the time than it is on him IMO.

                  That said, it’s entirely your right to be annoyed by it. And Ralphie’s wrong to just say “you’re a hater” based on it; in this country, there is a struggle going on, so it’s possible that displays of evangelism, coupled with the implied threats to some of our basic freedoms (which Tebow is on the record as supporting), can arouse feelings of antipathy that have nothing to do with religious hatred or intolerance.

                  I choose to overlook it, and not to mind so much, because I think Tebow is going to be a flash in the pan unless he learns how to pass the fucking football and convert the fucking third down. He’s winning against weak and middle of the road teams – with a HUGE assist from a good defense (all those unconverted third downs should translate to a lot more points on the board for the other guys) – but the Broncos only hope of getting into the playoffs is a Raiders collapse, because we’re not going to get a wildcard berth, and if we somehow make it in, we’ll lose that first game.

            2. of proselytizing that rubs folks the wrong way.  Too often professions of faith have all the sincerity of a Newt Gingrich marriage vow.  You just can’t trust them and they come with a Jim Jones mind control creepiness factor.

              Tebow can do anything he pleases just as if he was posting at Pols but if he starts selling that he won because he believes more than the Christians on the other team and God favors him above all others well then it will get just weird.  I don’t think he will be that kind of a “Christian”, but it is off putting to see the kind of immature spirituality where the individuals Ego claims that it is exalted for being so righteous.

              Thinning the Ego and making it more transparent for the eternal attributes (love, truth, kindness) to shine through is usually the sign of spiritual development.  Tim seems like a straight up guy but if he starts doing carnival barker believe or else gigs then you’ll know he’s strayed.

              1. “but if he starts selling that he won because he believes more than the Christians on the other team and God favors him above all others well then it will get just weird.”

                I’ve never heard Tebow say such a thing and I’m pretty sure that much of the attraction towards him is the fact that he uses Christianity as a grounding force that humbles him, not a force that allows him to exercise superiority over others (the trap that many Evangelical leaders wrongly fall into)

                1. I hope he continues to shun the Carnival Barker persona and focus on his footwork.

                  It would do a lot for our culture to see someone with that kind of faith act like a grown up instead of constantly berating the heathens.

          2. I can and do think it’s prejudice to complain about proclamations of faith.

            I don’t think we should treat religious beliefs WORSE than other beliefs, but:

            – if I can say an economics-based belief like supply-side economics is stupidly illogical wishful thinking whose advocacy has made the world a much worse place,

            – then why can’t I identically say a theologically-based belief like “god hates abortion and gays and evolution” is stupidly illogical wishful thinking whose advocacy has made the world a much worse place?

            It’s not bigotry to criticize certain theological assertions any more than it’s bigotry to criticize certain social and economic assertions — which is pretty much all we do on this blogoweb.

            1. between the concept and the practice in any religion.  A lot of people confuse the practice with the concept which can lead to a lot of mistaken assumptions particularly when the practice has been polluted and corrupted.  

              Are the central tenets of Christianity (Created universe, universal humanity, human examples of exemplary living) deserving of disrespect?  That’s debatable but at a theological level.  The whole preoccupation with an ego-centric afterlife is not unique to Christianity.  Those who do religious comparisons could probably find afterlife beliefs in other religions.

              Has the practice of Christianity been consistent and of a standard that approaches the ideals of it’s tenets?  In individual cases absolutely.  In other cases, the practice is little more than a sham and becomes a tool for manipulation and coercion.

              The inverse of “Hate the sin but not the sinner” is “Love the concepts but not the antics of Michelle Bachmann”.

              If you are going mock someone, you better be clear why you are doing it.  If you are mocking them because they believe in a heaven with warehoused egos who are going to be reanimated at some time in the future with brand new spanking bodies then you aren’t being respectful.  If you are mocking them because they claim to be Pro-Life but vote against helping living children like voting for Proposition 103 then you are spot on in your critique.  If Lazarus came back today and lay in front of the rich mans door, these pious Christians would have him arrested for vagrancy.  Bigotry comes from a lack of respect for the cherished beliefs of others.  Satire comes from watching the prostitution of those beliefs by the phony “faithful”.

  1. Broncos will finish 9- 7 and miss the playoffs.

    Oakland will finish with at least 10 wins and win the West.

    Baltimore and Pittsburgh will both win at least 10, one of them will be 1st wild card.

    the question is the Jets.  can they win 10?  They are currently 6-5,

    remaining games   WA, KC, Phil, NYG, Miami

    They beat WA, KC and Miami.

    Which means if they can beat the Eagles or the Giants (they should) they’re in.

  2. I am worried that Dan Caplis will try and ride the kid’s coattails (or whatever) into a senate race against Udall, flying under the “christ is us” banner.

     

  3. 16 points won’t win many games in the NFL but when your pass rushing defense is causing fear in the other team’s quarterback, you have a chance with a low scoring offense.

    When was the last time Denver had a pass rush that was so ferocious that it created a sense of fear in the other team.  The Lyle Alzado era maybe.  This team gets after the quarterback and keeps the heat on.  You know they were beating on Rivers when they smacked his hand as he was throwing the ball.

    San Diego is toast.  Denver might not make the playoffs but they are sure acting like spoilers.  Count San Diego as one of their victims.

    1. I give us a 50-50 chance of winning the division, but a 70% chance of passing the Bengals for the wildcard

      And yes, the pass rush is tremendous – so good that, I don’t think you can compare it to Broncos teams of the past, rather, you have to compare it to the all-time greats – personally, I think it’s as good as Neil Smith and Derrick Thomas in the Chiefs hey-days (or better)

  4. I’m an atheist.

    That said, Tebow is, at least, the real deal. He’s a great and versatile half-back playing quarterback.  He takes a lot of hits.  He’s obviously better and calmer each game. He’s throwing few passes but a high percentage are for scores or meaningful gains. He admits his deficits easily and blames nobody else.

    He’s a leader, and keeps the offense on the field a lot to give Denver’s soon to be acknowledged GREAT defense the time it needs to revive. Eh? That works.

    If Tebow were some fraud with seven pregnant underage girlfriends or scandals with rent boys, with needle tracks running up his legs and arms, and was drunk and disgusting off camera, the cynicism would be justified. So far, I’m with the guy and wish him well and much success.

    That I think he’s wrong and somewhat delusional and naive – and that I cannot say I grant status to that late arriving Divine Spirit birth decision tale of his mother’s – in no way clouds my appreciation and regard for someone who actually walks the walk of his beliefs and does so pleasantly.

    An actual Christian. Nice to have around.    

  5. After the next time the Broncs lose, he starts his post-game interview with:

    “I would like to thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Crist with giving me the half-assed skills to be able to throw a spiral as well as a second string high school quarterback”.

    Win or lose, he should be proclaiming the same thing.  Otherwise, it is proclamation for show.

    1. for anything but his abilities to play the quarterback position. Any “scorn” is a creation of the right wing as though they are trying to create another non existent “war on Xmas”

    2. Whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray while standing in synagogues and on street corners so that people can see them. Truly I say to you, they have their reward. But whenever you pray, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you.

      –Matthew 6:5-6

      1. is you can’t hide a light on the hill.

        Being openly comfortable with your faith to the point that you spontaneously stop and give thanks isn’t necessarily being a “look at me” Pharisee.

        The question is whether it is a calculated schtick to gain prestige and personal glory or is it simply one persons faith response to the moment.

        Tebow walks a fine line Tebowing in public but sometimes the guy looks genuine in his reflection.

        1. How often do you tend to stop, bow, and pray in the middle of the office at the completion of a successful business goal or contract?  How often have you seen others do so?  I’m pretty sure that the number of times this has happened around me in all of the jobs I’ve ever worked is less than one.

          I’m firmly a “by their deeds shall you know them” kind of guy.  If someone wants to know why I do something charitable, I’ll be more than happy to tell them.  If I’m invited to sing to someone whose life is brightened by it, I’ll gladly do so.  But going out and making a public display of thanking God for every day of my life?  Notsomuch.

          1. although there are probably some pretty off the wall rituals in some of the more fundamental institutions like Focus on the Family.  Maybe Tebowing is something new to humanity that hasn’t been done before. Tebow makes it suddenly hip to be seen mumbling in public with your eyes closed.  

            Somebody had to invent facing and bowing to Mecca five times a day.  I’m pretty sure that ritual didn’t make it to cultural acceptance overnight but it is the law of the land now in Muslim country kind of like banning Planned Parenthood in Wichita Kansas.

            Going around being invisible and doing good works might be OK for you to do but maybe Tim needs to operate in a bigger arena.  Maybe God has a plan for him to take Tebowing worldwide?  Just saying.

          2. Phoenix, that’s an unfair comparison because every workplace has a “culture”

            You’re not gonna get up out of your office chair and spike a football after a major contract is done either – if anything, “Tebowing” is far more civil than any of the usual celebrations done on an NFL field

            (and fyi – lots of people pray at their desks)

            1. Every workplace has a culture – and they don’t lend themselves to Evangelical displays of faith.  To dispute your other point, I recently had to call a collection agency about a medical debt; when I called the agency to pay it off, I could hear them in the background celebrating the collection – it was a ritual for them.  So, yes, some business cultures do “spike the football” as a motivational tool.

              (PS – I’m not a big football fan, and am one of those killjoys who think that spiking and other celebrations done after so many plays are for nothing other than show or egotism.)

  6. . . . . I find it nearly unimaginable that this many accomplished and rather intelligent folks (. . . . ArapaGOP notwithstanding . . . . ) are unable to find anything better to do with themselves on any given Sunday afternoon in the Colorado late-autumn.

        1. I think you’re being weaselly, though; I think you hate sports and probably have a reflexive dismissive attitude for jocks and sports fans. Now, there’s nothing wrong with one having personal opinions, but there are times when choosing to share them on a thread like this is pissing in the punchbowl.

          Don’t piss in the punchbowl.

      1. maybe I am . . . , do you know any?  ;~)

        Tebow is about as fascinating for me as Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Falwell, Jim Bakker, or John Elway (and I think both Swaggart and Elway had a much higher pass completion percentages, . . . I’m not certain).

  7. Is the problem with Christianity.

    It requires that believers spread the word.  Doctrinally it states that the only way to heaven is through faith.  One could act just like Christ, but absent faith they burn.

    This requirement to tell everyone else that their faith is inadequate inevitably will bring a backlash.

    Tebow himself seems like a good kid and a winner, regardless of his skills or lack thereof.  My beef is not with him, but the organization he fronts for.

    1. Adults who believe that there is a God who will torture you for all eternity if you don’t guess the right religious formula or adults who think that there is a God who is deeply concerned with football games.  

      That said, Tebow’s job is to win football games and he seems harmless and well meaning enough in his faith. Haven’t heard him publicly blaming any hurricanes on gays or calling for burning Qurans or anything.

      It’s not Tebow who annoys me.  It’s those of his supporters who insist on nonsense such as that the powers that be in the NFL hate Tebow for being Christian or that John Elway would rather see his Broncos lose than see Tebow succeed out of jealousy or something. Can’t blame the kid for his more idiotic fans.  I’d feel better about his long term success if I could shake the feeling that maybe he isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.

        1. Month from hell mourning my beautiful beloved big brother way before what should have been his time and shockingly unanticipated.  Dipping a tentative toe back into normalcy or what will have to pass for it for a very long time.  

                1. I’m so sorry! I’m heartbroken for you – I adore my big sisters

                  If you need to call me, you know where to find me 🙂 hang in there – and yes, it’s good to get out – reclusiveness is the worst thing you can do in times like this (and for some reason, we, as humans, are preconditioned to it in times of heartbreak)

  8. I don’t really care about this guy or this team or this sport or whatever, but I’m surprised none of the Christian football fans have realized the Broncos will never win a game while Demon Horse rules Pena Boulevard. I think it’s about time for an exorcism.

      1. Other than Brothers BBQ, Larkburger, Beaver Creek’s snowboard park above Moonshine, LEELA’S Cafe in downtown, Butterhorn Bakery in Frisco, Golden Burro in Leadville, the town of Gypsum, Loaded Joes in Avon, Paris On The Platte, Tebow, TABOR, my mother and my lil niecey and nephew…. that Demon Horse at DIA is my favorite thing in Colorado!

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