Tuesday Open Thread

“Self-justification is a treacherous servant.”

–Wellington Mara  

50 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Mark G. says:

     “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master…”

    –smart people

  2. Libertad says:

    Oh wait, here’s one from Bloomberg

    Solyndra LLC, the bankrupt solar- panel maker under investigation related to a $535 million loan guarantee from the U.S. government, persuaded a judge not to appoint a trustee to take over its bankruptcy case.

    U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Mary Walrath in Wilmington, Delaware, denied the request of the U.S. trustee, an arm of the U.S. Justice Department that monitors corporate bankruptcies, saying at a hearing yesterday that “this case does not rise to the level of failure to disclose that would mandate the appointment of a trustee.”

    Anyone with an opinion as to original  executive management and investors being part of the 1%ers …. cronk, nancycronk?

    • I’ll echo the opinion of the CEO of another, more successful solar company…  Solyndra was quite simply the victim of a crash in solar cell prices.  If a judge says they’re being open about disclosure and don’t need a trustee, then that’s fine by me, and who the investors are/were doesn’t matter personally.

      I am interested in whether any political levers were being pulled in obtaining the loan, in both the Bush and Obama administrations.  But realistically, when you’re making venture capital investments, some of your investments will be losers; Solyndra was one such case.

  3. nancycronk says:

    a la Hancock, Stand for Children, DFER, etc. Because when we think “better schools” we think George W. Bush! (not). http://denver.cbslocal.com/201

  4. BlueCat says:

    Here’s where Anita Perry invalidates her husband as a candidate for serious consideration. Apparently they confuse the entirely secular office of President with the role of Prophet in Chief whose purpose is to get the US right with God, according to their, no doubt, divinely received view of what that would be. They believe they are here to save the nation’s soul and we all know what “saved” means to them:

    “It is a comfort to know that I am in this place where I can feel the presence of God. We are being brutalized by our opponents, and our own party,” she said. “So much of that is, I think they look at him because of his faith.”

    Mrs. Perry also told the audience God had called her husband and other “true conservatives” to run for president.

    “We still feel called to do this,” Anita Perry said. “We didn’t have to do this. We are doing this because we want to do this. Because we want to save our children…we are fighting for the soul of our country.”


    • Ralphie says:

      The Christian Taliban version of this?

      (And yes, allyncooper, it IS Ed Sullivan this time)

    • VanDammer says:

      poor Anita playing that white privileged fundie victimization — wonder if she would agree with Cain’s take on those Pontius Pilate & the liberal Roman rule?

      Mrs. Perry also told the audience God had called her husband and other “true conservatives” to run for president.

      I love that she’s joined the sideshow in barking for her freak.  I’m keeping up with Sarah Posner @Religion Dispatches for her take on the fundies & their G*d freakshow.  

    • The realist says:

      other hardcore faithful christians explain how god can call multiple people to run for President.  How do they make sense of that?  How do they decide which one to support?  Anyone here know?

      • VanDammer says:

        but that doesn’t mean He/She wants ’em all to win.  Wonder if they can face the truth?

        I really want to hear the losers (looking at you Michelle & Rick) state aloud that even though they’d heed G*d’s call that maybe they were too flawed.  I’d like to see some serious soul searching from these fundies about just where they failed and what went wrong in their quest.

        But I know already that egos like these allow for very little introspection and soul-searching and, besides, scapegoating and faux victimization is their stock in trade.  Persecution plays so well to the ignorant masses of believers.

  5. ProgressiveCowgirl says:

    They finally gave me the “change to your real name or be suspended” notice on my ProgressiveCowgirl account. If one of you ratted me out, I frown at you!

  6. sxp151 says:

    Sorry, really nothing else to add right now.

  7. VanDammer says:

    Huzzah! (not the Missouri river) the GOP hits Vegas tonight and it’s gonna be epic interesting entertaining to say the least.  GOP circus freakshow of candidates visits the after-market breast capital of the US (make sure Newt behaves or else he’s on to marriage #4) for the 8th(?) debate tonight on CNN.

    Supposedly Parry is gonna go uber-conservative tonight to prove his bona fides with the fundies and truly separate himself from the pack (especially the cultist).

    Tonight’s CCN/WLRC supposedly to focus on western state issues but I’m sure that will go by the wayside just mins after starting.  I’m sure immigration will get attention & here’s hoping A-Coops calls the Herminator out on his jokes.

    “For a loser, Vegas is the meanest town on earth.”  Hunter S. Thompson

    • sxp151 says:

      He wasn’t joking about the electrified fence.


      But when a reporter challenged his description of his comments, saying he didn’t seem to be telling a joke, the retired pizza executive acknowledged: “You’re right.” He said he still believes in the need for a border fence “and it might be electrified.”

      This guy really seems to believe you can say one thing to the “Meet the Press” audience and the exact opposite thing to your base on consecutive days.

      • BlueCat says:

        This is a joke from a former and possibly future presidential candidate and ordained minister. Think it’s appropriate?  Especially considering the GOP history of dirty tricks, such as jamming phone lines,  sending out mailings and leaving lit with false notices of changes in polling places and dates? The bloodless coup and  documented voter intimidation of 2000? The continuing efforts to make it harder for Dem leaning demos to vote? I’m sure the Borg Brats will find it adorable:

        “Make a list,” said Huckabee, referring to supporters’ family and friends. “Call them and ask them, ‘Are you going to vote on Issue 2 and are you going to vote for it?’ If they say no, well, you just make sure that they don’t go vote. Let the air out of their tires on election day. Tell them the election has been moved to a different date. That’s up to you how you creatively get the job done.”

        The crowd laughed at Huckabee’s remarks. In 2009, he made a similar joke in Virginia, saying, “Let the air our of their tires … keep ’em home. Do the Lord’s work.”


    • The realist says:

      I don’t like saying this, but they’re all crazy.  They’re trying to outdo each other — now we’re going to have drones on the border.

      I hope Perry doesn’t draw his concealed weapon, or at least I hope it’s not loaded.

      And whatever happened to the League of Women Voters’ concept that you do NOT allow screaming, cheering, booing, yelling, etc, during a debate?


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