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September 23, 2011 03:46 PM UTC

Open Line Friday!

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Everybody thinks that they’re being monitored, everybody thinks that the pollster knows who they are, and you’re not gonna have people get asked, ‘So do you personally like the president?’ and say, ‘Hell, no!'”

–Rush Limbaugh, yesterday

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43 thoughts on “Open Line Friday!

  1. a post from the Thursday open thread that I think many will not see.

    I will be in Denver on Saturday with some discretionary time. Are there any meet-ups scheduled? Or perhaps we might put one together.

    I rarely cross the Divide, so it would be a good chance for me to meet some of my cyber friends.

    1. That there’s an afterparty for a Democratic Party fundraiser, around 9 PM at Jose O’Shea’s in Lakewood. I suspect that if one were looking for me Saturday evening, they would find me there, and I have reason to believe that the organizers would welcome any Polsters who wish to show up.

    1. Both econ and on one I just flat out disagreed with all of their choices. It was something about free market economy. All the true civics stuff was easy.  

      The fact that econ was conflated with civics makes me suspicious of quiz source.  And yes I know our elected officials must make decisions informed by knowledge of economics but that doesn’t make economics civics.

      For one thing the quiz included what I would consider subjective judgements on some “correct” econ answers whereas civics, the rules that govern the mechanics of how our constitutionally mandated system works, are objective.  There is only one possible correct answer, for instance, to what constitutes the 3 branches of government.  Not so with some of the econ questions.

      1. Can’t believe I conflated Lincoln’s beautiful words from the Gettysburg Address as belonging to the Constitution.  Wishful thinking on my part.

        But otherwise, I tied David’s 96.97% score.  Owe it to a misspent youth studying International Business and Economics.

    1. Polis’ legislation would require that states develop computer science standards and curriculum and form a commission to bring states together to address the shortage in computer science teachers.

      With this:

      “There’s a huge demand for computer science graduates, and graduating seniors have their pick of jobs,” he said.

      I imagine that a CS grad can earn more than twice as much out of school as a teacher. How do we entice them to teach?

      1. Maybe they could get programmers in regular jobs to teach a single class paired up with a student teacher (who knows the ED part)? Or get existing teachers to teach it – you don’t need a degree in C.S. to teach an intro course in it.

    1. that showed it losing 45-47. There was a poll this spring that showed the CFPI and earlier Heath proposal going down by even wider margin, but that’s part of the reason those didn’t gain any traction and aren’t on the ballot.

      1. Does that support tend to stick or does it drop as election day approaches? Because if this means we go in to election day 2 points down, that’s statistically a tie.

        Also, is there any serious money in opposition to the proposal? If not, does that mean we stay closer to even as we approach election day?

        1. ballot measures have to start out the campaign with over 50 percent support, because it’s a lot easier to decide to vote against something than it is to vote for it.

          This year could be different, however, with only one measure on the ballot, and nothing else statewide, which is just a very unusual situation so the old rules might not strictly apply.

          So far there’s not a lot of money on either side, beyond what Heath and his allies raised to get the measure on the ballot. If any polls show it’s likely to pass, though, count on opponents raising some money to defeat it.

          But both campaigns are running almost entirely grassroots campaigns, relying on neighbors talking to neighbors, and that kind of campaign, coupled with turnout being driven by local races with very different profiles across the state, might make things hard to predict.

            1. didn’t call the audience out for that shit. That was just vile. I saw the video of it this morning. Literally could not believe that no one had a single word to say, to speak out against booing a guy who is serving in Iraq. Unbelievable.  

              1. … ’cause it will only get worse.  Media  loving these sickenign audience responses.  Why mic the audience?  Why do moderators accept the audience outburst?  Because it plays to the viewers.  Live audience reactions are fast becoming the takeaways from these debates.

                Just like last summer’s TeaBaggin’ demonstrations were vastly over reported, vastly over played, and proved to be red meat for the CNN/Fox/MSNBC 24-7 ratings.

                No Dem primary will make us look timid & pale & weak in comparison.  These nine mostly laughable “candidates” are all  pants-on-fire liars racing to jump in bed  with the extremophile wing of the GOTP.

                Fuxsake, Batshit Bachmann said everyone should get to keep all their earnings — no taxes at all.  She a nuckin’ fut willing to spew out anything trying to contend.  She’s one of the most desperate seel-your-soul liars up there and she’s been riding this wagonload of BS for months.  All media know it but just lets her spew ’cause it is red meat for the Coliseum mobs.

                    1. Hush your mouth. I like my Harry Potter. The writing is between decent and shitty somewhere and more derivative than the Black-Eyed Peas, but it’s great for a quick escape.

                1. She said everyone should be able to keep every dollar…AND we have to fund the government.  

                  The moderator just said ‘thanks,’ audience clapped, move on…

                  Certainly there is an obvious follow up question–like  “How the hell do you expect to do that Congresswoman?  Bake sales?”

                  But on Faux Snooze the obvious isn’t I guess.  

          1. who said “…we sound like crazy people” as a bright young conservtaive. Wonder if they got any “Bravo. These  candidates are awesome” e-mails from our ‘tad, ArapG and Markie.

          2. even when they’re on live TV, we apparently missed a few good lines, like this one by Rick Perry, quoted in the NYTimes:

            “Is it the Mitt Romney that was on the side of – against the Second Amendment before he was for the Second Amendment? Was it – was before – he was before the social programs from the standpoint of – he was for standing up for Roe v. Wade before he was against first – Roe v. Wade?” he said. “I mean we’ll wait until tomorrow to see which Mitt Romney we’re really talking to tonight.”

            Help us all.

    1. The second curve should probably dip below the starting point a few times. Success is hard, and is frequently accompanied by a fair amount of failure (and not just in business).

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