Thursday Open Thread

by: Colorado Pols July 1, 2021 at 6:49 AM MDT

“The scene changes but the aspirations of men of good will persist.”

–Vannevar Bush

Voyageur says:

July 1, 2021 at 7:18 AM MDT

Indictments are falling round Trump’s head.

It’s the very thing he has to dread.

Taxes aren’t for him,

His flam is always flim.

Why pay taxes that he owes?

It just excites his foes.

Because he stinks

And his conscience further shrinks.

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- notaskinnycook says:
  
  July 1, 2021 at 1:14 PM MDT
  
  Here you go, V: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-business-weisselberg-indictments/2021/07/01/e2b774a0-da15-11eb-bb9e-70fda8c37057_story.html
  
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davebarnes says:

July 1, 2021 at 8:15 AM MDT

Today, in 1916, the Battle of the Somme began.

20,000 British soldiers died.

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ParkHill says:

July 1, 2021 at 8:32 AM MDT

Pew Research has done polling on validated voters in the 2020 election.

As we know, Biden did better than Clinton.

However, the bottom line result is that Party loyalty is up: The Democratic coalition is solid, and Trump did not suffer a drop-off from Republicans.

As Rachel Biticofer keeps pointing out, the "persuadable independents" are no more than 10%. The REAL persuasion comes from turning out your own voters, or I guess getting your opponents supporters to not show up at the polls.

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- Dano says:
  
  July 1, 2021 at 9:12 AM MDT
  
  Only confirms what we have known for years now: The world is run by those who show up!
  
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  - JohnInDenver says:
    
    July 1, 2021 at 9:14 AM MDT
    
    would that adage also imply that those who do NOT show up get the run around?
    
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  - ParkHill says:
    
    July 1, 2021 at 2:56 PM MDT
    
    True, but it indicates that you should allocate marketing and resources more to turnout, or things that increase turnout. Trying to get Republicans to change their vote to Dem is much less effective.
    
    It also belies the suggestion that persuading moderates is more important than delivering to the Democratic base.
    
    It also shows why Dems came so close to losing in 2020; they failed to run a door-to-door turnout campaign in many places that are not called Georgia.
    
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- MattC says:
  
  July 1, 2021 at 11:03 AM MDT
  
  Oh, in many states the opponents may show up at the polls and they still will not count.
  
  Looking at you AZ, TX, GA.
  
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  - notaskinnycook says:
    
    July 1, 2021 at 1:13 PM MDT
    
    And there ain't nothin' we can do about it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-arizona-voting-laws/2021/07/01/5fef7800-da6b-11eb-9bbb-37c30dcf9363_story.html
    
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    - Duke Cox says:
      
      July 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM MDT
      
      Our best hope is to overwhelm the cheaters with massive numbers of voters. There are more of us than them..by a lot.
      
      Vote Blue…No Matter Who!
      
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