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June 11, 2011 03:03 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Self-reverence, self-knowledge, self-control–these three alone lead to power.”

–Alfred, Lord Tennyson

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  1. “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

    “It is easier to find people fit to govern

    themselves than people to govern others.

    Every man is the best, the most responsible,

    judge of his own advantage.”

    “The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern.”

    Lord Acton  

    2. Well the smell from the smelter next door that was built in our neighborhood is bad and all our plants are dead. But the lack of zoning meant I was able to build an addition on the house without getting approval.

      That trade-off was almost worth it, except the addition burnt down because of an electrical short. Some say a building inspector would have avoided that, but that would have delayed my construction so I better this way.

      It is a shame about my neighbor’s house burning down too when my addition burned down. But I saved quite a bit by not paying for fire department coverage. It’s his fault for not paying enough to handle a full blown fire jumping to his property.

      I do try to avoid looking out the window on the drive in to work. I don’t mind seeing the legions of homeless on the side of the road – it’s their own damn fault for our having more workers than jobs. But the smell is unpleasant.

      I do try to not drive by the hospital. The large numbers of people outside the entrance dying because they can’t afford healthcare looks so yucky. I wish they would go somewhere private to die. I don’t buy the excuse that they can’t afford anyplace private.

      The one downside of today is at work I’ll have to layoff a couple more people. The cost of my security detail with the breakdown in society has now reached 45% of company income and so we have to reduce the number of people working on products.

      But I remain ever so thankful that we no longer have a government making decisions for us. Our GDP may be declining, we may have passed our power on to China, India, & Brazil, and our infrasturcture may be totally gone – but all that is a small price to pay for political purity.

  2. The smear campaign against Michael Hancock now includes The Denver Post entering the fray because Michael won’t open his private life to the paper.  Pathetic.

    The media campaign has now taken on a life of its own as each outlet tries to outdo the other with sensationalist copy which Progressive Denver cares little about.

    As I’ve posted before, Hancock will not resign but will move on to conduct the important job for which he was OVERWHELMINGLY elected to do.

    Denver voters are cognizant of the alternative.

    2. Leaving the rest of your stupid comment out of it and even Hancock himself, if the voters are so smart, why would you assume that they would elect something terrible in a special election?

      In case you’re confused, and it appears as though you are, if Hancock just resigns now the office doesn’t go to the next greatest vote getter. Like how Danny Lopez didn’t get to step in when Hickenlooper went away.

      In an odd situation where a DM wasn’t appointed yet, or there was confusion, it’s more likely that we would end up with Nevitt, or whoever the Council picks as President.

      You don’t like Nevitt? Or Hancock doesn’t?

      1. If hancock took office, he would appoint a deputy mayor.  then, if he resigned, the deputy mayor would serve until the special election.  Emphatically, Hancock should not resign.  But maybe he could appoint Rep. Weiner as deputy mayorto deflect the media;-).

    3. “Denver Mayor-elect Michael Hancock has reneged on an agreement to release unedited copies of his cellphone bills and other records that might show whether he ever placed or received a call to arrange a liaison with a prostitution service.”

      Yes, innocent until proven guilty?  Absolutely!  However, this is sounding like every other man caught with his pants down.

      Lie, Deny and Counter Accuse.  If that does not work, start trying to back pedal.  

      First, it was a forgery.  And a fake story because the Denver Post wouldn’t run it. It is now FRONT PAGE OF THE DENVER POST.

      Then Hancock’s lawyers ask if his car or likeness is on tape?  If he had never been there, why are his lawyers asking for video?  

      Then Hancock said he would release his cell phone records to show it was not him making those calls.  Now, he will only release some records.

      I also wonder how many other politicians are going to fall over this.  My guess is a bunch of people are getting ready to start singing like canaries.  Wanna take bets on who else will get tangles in this?

      Weiner, Hancock…what horrible names given their situation.

      1. Friday on “Colorado Inside Out,” Patricia Calhoun said: Still more story to come.  May not be story about Michael Hancock but bigger story on how this whole deal went down.

        Lynn Bartels was more direct: I’d like for it not to be true.  Michael’s “never ever, ever” had that reputation.

        Then looking directly into the camera with her famous evil eye look said, “Other people have.”

        1. Were the Rocky still in print, there’s no way either paper would have made a ‘gentleman’s agreement’ with Hancock not to go to press; investigative reporters would actually have investigated.

          1. in the good ‘ole days, . . . say, when Bill Owens was Colorado’s First Man Leading Citizen Governor?

            Or, maybe, back during the Roy Romer years . . . when “BJ” was something other than just another tiresome Pols joke?

            I miss the Rocky too, but I wouldn’t bet that it would have made any difference to the reporting of this story.

            1. But I think the situations are a bit different.  Memory tells me that the Owens stuff never got above rumor (weren’t the divorce documents all sealed?), as opposed to police investigations/documents.  

              Dimmer memory tells me that the Romer/BJ stuff wasn’t even uncovered until long after he’d left office.  And I don’t remember how well or poorly any non-Westword paper covered that one.  So you may be right on that one.

    4. In a courtroom – yes. But for the public opinion of the electorate, it tends to be where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Individuals are free to use any criteria they wish. And it seems that 95% of the time, when there are hints, there’s a clear scandal behind it.

      Hancock is going to have this dogging him big-time throughout his administration. Especially with the numerous messages from his campaign & lawyers that only make sense if he is guilty.

      1. Public opinion is no longer with him.  Women will call for his down fall.  I am sick of men in office right now.  Too much news about having affairs while your wife is dying or pregnant!  This is a bad time for this to happen to him.

        JAMES MEJIA just may get a shot at this yet!

        1. Sick of men but excited that Mejia may have a shot… 🙂

          I don’t think he makes a very pretty lady, but I’d lend him a skirt if I thought it’d lead him to the mayoral office.

      2. I don’t know if the mayor-elect is guilty or innocent and I sure don’t have a vested interest. (I live where we elect God-fearing, right-wing, gun totin’ Republicans by default.) But I am weary of the self righteous news media and political partisans feeding off of political scandal 24/7.

        1. Let’s take NY’s embattled Congressman. I don’t care that he tweeted his junk, nor do I find it especially newsworthy. Sending to a minor, possibly criminally, makes it newsworthy.

          Pres. Clinton’s problem wasn’t that he was being blown, it’s that he lied under oath.

          Hancock’s problem isn’t that he screws around, it’s that he screws around with hookers.

          In short, I don’t think the “higher standard” is based on morality. I think it means that if you are involved in the law, you need to follow it. All of these instances were while he was a Councilman.

          Anyway, as I’ve said before, I don’t think this falls under Hancock’s situation. He’s the one who thinks “perception” is more important than policy. My “perception” is that he’s a lying dirtbag who pays for sex and isn’t especially fit to ultimately oversee things like the DPD. I realize he doesn’t directly, but he is the boss’ (both of them) boss. In case you haven’t noticed, we have a bit of a police ethic and law breaking problem.

          Outside of that I don’t care if he spends his time discreetly masturbating with city fountains. As long as innocent bystanders can’t see his junk, all the same to me.

          1. Sure, some opportunists will say it’s about what’s legal and what isn’t, but if that was the big thing, Wiener wouldn’t be in any real trouble.

            Look at how WLJ is reacting to this. Like these men did her wrong personally. (Not trying to pick on her, but she’s the one giving voice to that perspective here.) There are a lot of people (men included) who find this reprehensible because it’s cheating.

            Or is it? Most likely it is, but some marriages, even those with kids, are open. No reason to assume that that’s not the case.

            But you are correct – the most important angle here is that if he did this, he broke the law.

            1. For me, i look for character in elected officials.  I want to feel comfortable that the person we have hired to do a job has a strong set of personal values. I don’t believe you have to perfect, but, I am not sure that the use of prostitutes will ever be acceptable.  I especially have issue with it while you speak negativity about the MMJ business and are vowing to clean up the police department. Personal values now become governing issues.

              Anyway, we are still jumping ahead.  Maybe there is a way the Mayor-Elect can clear this up and win back public support.

  9. In advance of his Chinese Furniture Warehouse being pummeled into insolvency by IKEA, he starts complaining about the company’s national origin and that they don’t pay enough taxes:


    Jake Jabs sends letter questioning IKEA

    The President and CEO of American Furniture Warehouse has never been described as shy. He says he’s never been one to back away from a showdown, and he’s not afraid to pick on the new furniture store on the block.

    “Maybe, so what. I love competition,” said Jake Jabs. “I think you know that. If you know me at all, you know I like competition.”

    Jabs sent a letter to legislators and to the media raising several questions about the way IKEA is structured. The letter starts by asking if IKEA is actually a Swedish company.

    IKEA’s founder and owner Ingvar Kamprad was born and raised in Sweden. But, he has officially turned over the ownership of his company to the Stichting INGKA Foundation based out of the Netherlands. Several published reports state that it is officially registered as a charity.

    “When you read all of the fine print here, the foundation is, all it does is support IKEA,” said Jabs.

    He says the reason IKEA is structured that way is to avoid paying taxes.

    “It should be a level playing field. If we do ‘X’ amount of business and IKEA does ‘X’ amount of business, we should pay the same taxes,” said Jabs.

    http://www.9news.com/news/arti…

    Now, Jake is an awesome Dude. He supports a lot of Veteran charities and activities in the state. But this is lame!

    2. I have no experience with their furniture.

      But, I did buy a few items, all at one time, from Jake and they were absolute crap. Sold at a garage sale for minimal cost within 6 months.

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