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October 17, 2020 06:49 AM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“The more desperate you are, the more mistakes you make.”

–Canelo Alvarez

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  1. Weekend trivia: When Trump loses the popular vote in 17 days, he will join an exclusive club of two time losers (popular vote, major party) in presidential elections. Can you name the last three? Clues – it's been over 60 years, and they were white males. 

    1. Follow up on worm's query, I'd note that only one candidate, Samuel Tilden, won an absolute majority of the popular vote while losing the electoral college, in 1876.

       

      1. Stevenson (1956, 1952), Dewey (1948, 1944), and Bryan (1908, 1900, 1896 ) were the last three. Trump's name will taint this list, just like everything else associated with him. 

  2. I’d say Stevenson, Dewey (Wilke and Dole only ran once unless you count Dole’s veep run) and the pair of three time losers: Henry Clay and William Jennings Bryan.  So that makes four.

     

  3. 2016 final vote total:  2,564,185

    2020 vote as of 10/15:  436,443 — 19 days out from the election. 

    anyone want to hazard a guess about how soon we exceed the 2016 number? 

    Or what the final vote total is going to be?

  4. Biden might as well close up shop and head back to Delaware. According to one of the more bugfuck QAnon sects, today's the day Trump announces that the very much alive JFK, Jr. is replacing Pence on the GOP ticket.

  5. There has been a lot of talk about this president being a transactional president. What exactly is meant by transactional?  What are the alternatives to transactional?  This is an empty word to me in this context…means absolutely nothing. Would appreciate enlightenment here. 

      1. The first time I heard this Administration described as transactional I was sitting in the Trump Hotel with a cannabis lobbyist from the other side of the aisle.  The bar scene in Benjamin’s Bar and Lounge (the centerpiece of the hotel), could be described as a scene from the (Star Wars) Mos Eisley Cantina. That same evening Sean Spicer was launching his book and SmellyAnne and Sarah *uckabee were within earshot. It was *slightly* surreal. 

        I’m convinced they named it Benjamin, not for the Founding Father, but that it will take a Benjamin to settle the tab if you have more than one drink (and they were nothing special). 

        Rick Perry was oft described as a transactional DOE Secretary. 

    1. Here you go, CDW: Transactional relationships are economic and functional. They're based on exchange of money, goods, or services. They serve a very clear point. And when that point no longer makes sense or has been fulfilled, the relationship ends.

      http://www.theladders.com › career-advice › create-rare-and-lif…

    2. Some people have friends because they want to hang out and have fun together, not because they can exchange things.

      Some people live with spouses because they love them, not at the end of a complicataed pre-nup negotiation.

      Some people even make business deals or have employees based on loyalty, not purely on a day by day or even year by year calculation of benefits and costs.

      We had long term alliances with South Korea and Japan based on common interests, and Trump tried to make a calculation of how much South Korea "owed us" for protection. 

    3. To a certain extent, we are all transactional: you make dinner and I'll wash the dishes afterward. Trump is corruptly transactional.

      But, it becomes pathological when your entire approach to being president is transaction-based on "What will you do for me, California, or else I won't give you emergency fire disaster relief."

  6. More trivial, but no question. Gov., Senators, Congressional delegation, SoS, AG, Treas., State House, State Senate. If all goes as expected, all will be controlled by the Democratic party. Last time that happened was 1938. CO Elected Officials.

    It appears Republicans have never pulled it off. They came close in the early 2000's but for AG Salazar, and in 1971-72, with a split Congressional delegation.

    The Colorado GOP is historically impotent.

     

    1. Don't forget Regents! Anyone wondering about who to toss a little support to down the home stretch might want to consider Ilana Spiegel in the 6th District.

    2. Colorado is a harbinger of things to come nationally.  We're going to have to stop referring to these whack-a-doodles as The Party of Lincoln (although I have profound respect for The Lincoln Project patriots); those in the Senate sitting in silence while Rome burns are living in a fantasy world where they believe a majority of Americans will forget their acquiescence.  We're going to be stuck with the pall of Trumpism for some time. 

      Exhibit ‘A’:

  7. A joke:

    A fourth-grade teacher asked the children what their parents do for a living. All the typical answers came up – mechanic, business, sales, doctor, engineer… and so forth.  

     However, little Justin was being uncharacteristically quiet, so when the teacher prodded him about his parents, he replied, "My father's an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off all his clothes to music in front of other men and they put money in his underwear. Sometimes, if the offer is really good, he will go home with some guy and stay with him all night for money."  

     The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, hurriedly set the other children to work on some exercises and took little Justin aside."Is that really true about your father?"  

     "No," the boy said, "He works for the Republican National Committee and is trying to get Trump re-elected, but it's too embarrassing to say that in front of the other kids.”

  8. Good job, Colorado elections officials.  'Tis a privilege to live in Colorado!

    2020 General Election

    Ballot Accepted

    10/15/2020

    Your voted ballot has been received for processing by Arapahoe County Elections. Thank you for voting!

  9. Thank you all for responding to my transactional query. Transactional means to me that each of the parties enters into a transaction willingly and hopefully gets something of value to them. I just never thought of mafia tactics as “transactional”.  Applying the term to him seems like a corruption of the idea. 

     

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