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September 17, 2020 06:56 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

  • 36 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“To a superior race of being the pretensions of mankind to extraordinary sanctity and virtue must seem ridiculous.”

–William Hazlitt

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36 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

  1. re:  the Hazlitt quote.

    the pretensions of mankind to extraordinary sanctity and virtue … seem ridiculous 

    even to some of us who KNOW we are not a superior race of being …

  2. Received from a Facebook friend:

    Don't believe the "Scientific American" endorsement is non-partisan, or even particularly scientific. Their parent company is Springer Nature. A simple Wikipedia search (see Controversies and History) show they have a disconcerting history of censorship and propaganda to the benefit of the Chinese government. More like Election Interference.

    I want to maintain a good relationship with this person, but DAMN

    1. That one probably originated in Hong Kong with the Epoch Times. They like Trump because he is anti-Communist China. Half of the ads on YouTube seem to be from that crowd. Repetition makes it “true”. 
       

      If you care about the relationship, agree to disagree, or….do the research, show why Scientific American isn’t pro Communist China, and present it to your friend with a graphic. 
       

      I may have to do the same when I see my Trumper ex-daughter-in-law She hails from the worst infected county in the worst Covid-infected state in the Union, South Dakota. But she thinks that COVID will “go away after the election”,  and mocks mask wearers. 

      On second thought, she’s kind of a beatch, and it won’t affect the grandkids if I don't speak to the maga matron, though it might make my daughter uncomfortable. I’ll even buy a special mask for the occasion.
       

       

      1. I was getting ads for Epoch Times showing, a handsome millennial.

        I looked it up (in my Firefox browser which has cookie and ad sharing turned off), There is some kind of relationship between Epoch Times and the Falun Gong.

        1. The founder of the Epoch Times was an adherent of Falun Gong. However, Epoch Times has now metastasized into a MAGA conspiracy outlet with a multimillion dollar budget, and billions of social media views. It was financed by Hong Kong real estate magnates originally, and then by Robert Mercer in the US. That was per Wikipedia.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

          Now, Epoch Times is spreading Covid disinformation big-time. They like Trump because they see him as the best hope to smack down Communist China.

          The outlet did have some good reporting on the Hong Kong pro-democracy protests – one of the few media outlets that covered it at all.

          Sometimes it’s hard to tell the players even with a scorecard.

        2. You describe him as handsome.  I describe him as annoying and faux hipster.   I keep telling youtube I don't want to look at those false, and potentially dangerous ads and I still see them.

          1. You know what's even creepier than the Epoch Times Trumptastic content?

            Their actors may not even be real people. At least in still photos,  ET generated hundreds of fake Facebook accounts. They used an AI engine to create faces, histories, family photos, hobbies – everything.

            Then they used these fake accounts to troll Facebook users with divisive crap and covid and election misinformation.

            Facebook shut them down, but they're probably back in another form.

  3. Well, so much for the Denver Gazette. I sent this email to them this morning.

    I signed up for the free trial.

    I was fairly happy with the newspaper and thought about subscribing. The price is good. (We pay $1100/year to get the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.)

    But, reprinting an anti-Obamacare editorial from the Washington Examiner is too much. The Examiner is a vile right-wing rag.

    I will not give Phil money to support his garbage DC newspaper.

  4. Tune of “House of the Rising Sun”

    -0-

    There is a stink in Washington

    It comes from Donald Trump.

    He’s been the ruin of the American dream

    Ohh God, let’s dump this bum.

    *

    His father was a racist

    Made a fortune building slums.

    Donald was a gambling lord

    Whose casinos lost billions in sums.

    *

    He has a cohort named William Barr

    Who crawled from the sewer’s slime.

    Barr holds the reins and is the brains

    Behind the Donald’s worst crimes.

    *

    Oh mothers, tell your children

    Not to vote for this lying scum.

    In 47 days we’ll dispell this haze.

    And bring decency back to Washington.

     

    1. Meanwhile, in Georgia, their #PooAnon candidate is getting some attention from the Republican leadership: 

      Republicans set aside past concerns over a controversial Georgia candidate as they urge her to join 'team'

      Despite Greene espousing views that many see as racist, anti-Semitic and Islamophobic, Republicans are working to bring her into the fold — and are insisting they expect her to be a team player if she comes to Washington next year. 

      1. They work with what they've got….

        Absolutely nothing is too offensive for them to embrace.

        Remember 4 short years ago when our very own in-house troll, Moderatus, was shilling for Marco Rubio until he dropped out, then shilled for Ted Cruz until he dropped out, and finally learned to stop worrying and to embrace the Trump?

        1. Ya. Pre-2012 (RMoney) it was Grover Norquist who screamed that all that the Rs needed was someone with 5 working digits who could work a pen.

          Norquist wanted to shrink government to a size small enough to drown it in a bathtub.

          Rs in Congress abandoned that instantly and have now run the national debt up to the point that next year it will be larger than the GDP. 

  5. What a waste of time. There was an hour long event where Joe Biden would answer our questions. It was for people who made large-ish donations. So what did we get.

    12 minutes of Biden commercials

    24 minutes of Polis, Salazar, & Bennet talking up Biden

    7 minutes of Biden talking about what he will do

    10 minutes of Biden answering 2 questions

    7 minutes of closing thank yous from Biden

    Here’s the thing, this was a group that clearly will vote for Biden. That has contributed large amounts to Biden. And 50 minutes was selling Biden.

    What a waste of everyone’s time.

    And not just the supporters who attended, Biden must have much more effective ways to use his time. Polis, Salazar, Bennet, Crowe, & Perlmutter must have much more effective ways to use their time. I hope the rest of the campaign is not as mis-directed.

          1. If that was the goal, definitely counter productive in my case.

            I'll keep any further donations based on where I think it will do the most good. But if that is a tie between Biden and a Senate campaign, this event will be the tie breaker and I'll donate to a Senate campaign.

  6. Glimmer of good news:

    Per  Federal judge Stanley Bastian, USPS has to reinstate overtime and reverse operational changes that slowed down the mail. There aren't any orders to replace mail sorting machines or mailboxes that had been removed, though.

    “The states have demonstrated that the defendants are involved in a politically motivated attack on the efficiency of the Postal Service,” Bastian said in brief remarks after a two-and-a-half hour hearing in Yakima, Wash. “They have also demonstrated that this attack on the Postal Service is likely to irreparably harm the states’ ability to administer the 2020 general election.”

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