Wednesday Open Thread

“Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.”

–Kin Hubbard

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  1. MADCO says:

    Hypothetically, if a lame duck president resigned so the lame duck VP could become president and pardon the former president, how close to inauguration day could they wait?

    I know, I know, no need to take the 5th or get pardoned if no law was broken. But still, it's just a hypothetical 500:1 parley question.


  2. davebarnes says:

    Today is National Wiener Schnitzel Day

    And, the best place to eat one is at Figlmüller in Wien —

  3. Voyageur says:

    Tune of Little Drummer Boy


    We came to Washington to inaugurate Trump.

    Dump Trump.

    There were quite few of us, he called us a mob.

    Dump Trump.

    We didn’t vote for him, 

    He’s too dumb for the job.

    Trump is a bum.

    Trump is a bum.

    Trump is a bum.

    We will Dump Trump.

    That idiot Trump

    In 55 days.


  4. Conserv. Head Banger says:

    In the FWIW department (FWIW = for what it’s worth):

    Political contributions since August 1:

    John Hickenlooper-D (US Senate-Colorado)($100)

    Steve Bullock-D (US Senate-Montana)($100)

    Bob Rankin-R (Colo. Senate, District 8)($75)

    Adam Schiff-D (US House-Calif.)($50)

    Biden Victory Fund ($50)

    • Duke Cox says:

      You forgot Perry Will?

      • Conserv. Head Banger says:

        No thanks. Perry is pushing the fake war on rural Colorado.

        • Duke Cox says:

          I did some looking and found it hard to get info on where he stands on issues. He has not returned a questionnaire from Ballotpedia, so no help there.

          I haven’t seen Perry in many years, though he used to be my next door neighbor. Sorry to hear he is carrying water for the stupid wing of the party. Of course, that is about all that remains of the GOP.

          • Conserv. Head Banger says:

            @Duke: Perry has a Facebook page where he identifies the “war on rural Colorado” at the state legislature.

            I wonder if that is the same “war” that is enabling farmers & ranchers in eastern Colorado to make big bucks by having wind turbines on their properties?

            Perry isn’t horribly bad on the environment. In the 2019 legislative session, his rating by Conservation Colorado was 38%. Not super good, but he was the highest rated Republican in the House. As an aside, they have yet to post a 2020 scorecard, perhaps due to not enough votes to do ratings, due to COVID.

        • MichaelBowman says:

          Speaking of fake wars.  The only thing authentically challenging the future of the industry is their inability to not flood the market with a cheap product we're going to need less-and-less of as we transition to new, cheaper, cleaner, job-producing options: 

          Colorado oil companies worry new COGCC well setbacks threaten industry viability Colorado oil companies worry new COGCC well setbacks threaten industry viability 

          • Duke Cox says:

            Maybe it's just that they have nothing else to do, Michael. I recall reading that future demand scenarios have convinced the Carlyle Group, along with several others, to publicly announce they are ending their investments in fossil fuel development.

            If that is true, it would explain the desperation with which the CPA and COGA, et al are trying some pretty crazy shit. I am really impressed with the use of severance tax money by Garfield county to fight regulation. 

            I think I read that other O&G owned counties are participating, as well. I am not sure how many county commissioners are working for the Oily Boyz, but I know a few of them by name..😉

            • MichaelBowman says:

              I remember the early days (2005) of “25x’25” well when we assured the US grid would collapse without the construction of hundreds of new coal plants and that renewables would destroy our economy.  It’s taken some time to dismantle their political influence, and they can cry all they want about regulatory interference, but their real enemy is geology and technology – not the Birkenstock crowd. 

              We got a reprieve this week in our local paper from cow farts and plant-based meats by the Sonnenberg Institute but had to endure a front-page headline “Who bears the cost of transitioning from coal?” and a guest editorial by one of our county commissioners railing against the draconian requirements of SB-181 (I’m guessing this is a coordinated effort amongst rural county commissioners).  

              Who’d have thunk? For decades the coal boys promised us they were the cheapest form of electricity and we couldn’t operate without them??? Seems as though the coal ash pits they’ve been creating have a significant clean-up cost.  So let’s just say it like it is: they’ve been lying for years to their coop members.  Add to that the sad reality that the negative external costs of coal to our health has amounted to something north of 16 cents/kWh that society bears while they thump their chest and talk about ‘cheap, reliable power’.  

              The SB-181 end-times narrative is more of the same.  Yuma County is drowning in Class 5 wind; there have been billions of dollars invested in wind farms in eastern Colorado over the past decade yet no local projects have materialized.  We’re also drowning in natural resources like good land, good farmers, solar power.  We have so much potential in adopting a 21st-century ag model.

              We don’t have a crisis in natural gas public policy, we have a crisis in leadership who understands the critical nature of a transitioning economy and leading us to where the puck is going to be – not clinging to a 19th-century economic model. 

    • MichaelBowman says:

      CHB – if you have a little spare change check these folks out. I give them a penny-per-tweet and get a lot of satisfaction knowing that every time the short-fingered vulgarian hits 'Tweet', someone's getting some cash to push back on his madness. 


      • Conserv. Head Banger says:

        Michael: thanks for the tip. “Defeat by Tweet” is an interesting concept. However, my remaining money available for the election is by and large spoken for. Looking at another check for Hick later this month, and maybe also for Mark Kelly in AZ, who I donated to in July.

        Speaking of AZ, I still like McSally somewhat, but she has turned into just another shill and toad for Trump.

  5. RepealAndReplace says:

    Has anyone seen or heard from Moderatus lately?

  6. harrydoby says:

    Ok, let me think.  If I were an unhinged, wack-a-doodle, narcissistic president of, oh I don’t know, say the US, and about to get the biggest ass-whupping in the November election, what would I do to help myself?

    I know!  Piss all over the Military-Industrial Complex for being insufficiently grateful!

    …one former senior defense official said, Mr. Trump appeared angry at the Republican national security officials who last month publicly declared that he was a danger to the Constitution, and especially at military contractors who were not donating more to his strapped campaign or, in his view, sufficiently grateful for how he has defended their sales.

    “Just as he is endlessly frustrated by a media that will not bend to his whim, he’s frustrated by a military that takes an oath to the Constitution and not to the president,” he said.

    • The realist says:

      Trumpie really needs to get out and look for another country – one in which he can be the reality show authoritarian leader with millions of adoring fans. Maybe that country exists in his mind rather than on Planet Earth . . . maybe those adoring fans are bots. 

      • Duke Cox says:

        John Dickerson, one of the best journalists on TV, I would venture, mentioned this morning on CBS a point we must all remember. The OD tried to pin this on the Democrats as a political ploy…hysteria to hurt him. 

        When asked if Trumps’ defense of “panic deflection” had a point, he was quite pointed in his response. “No!”

        It is as plain as day that the criminal in the Whitest House sought to use his dishonesty as a political weapon, no matter how many Americans it would kill. He obviously misled the people to protect his chances of re-election.

        The best solution is still in the hands of the American people. The voters of America must turn out this perverse and dangerous regime and repudiate its messages and its purveyors. And the statement to the Trumplican© party is the same as John Dickersons’ response above…No.


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