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June 13, 2020 07:08 AM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”

–Thomas Jefferson

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      1. Time to dispense with the "Trump Stinks" mantra. It's worn out and everybody already knows about it.

        Maybe a worthwhile substitute would be to begin a countdown to the start of early voting. 

    1. The 65-year-old father "is ill and currently undergoing treatment at a mental health facility. "

      Another of Chevy/Bunn's boogaloo bois?

      Ever heard of the red flag law? The kids or the cops could have filed for one.

       

      1. But where'd he get the idea that polo-shirt wearing young workers were antifa, when everyone knows antifas are elderly protesters trained to fall over backwards intentionally when pushed, banging their heads on concrete? Wow, do we live in strange times!

        1. Best guess is that he believed that since the hawaiian-shirt wearing boogaloo (big luau/big igloo)-associated Proud Boys have the polo shirt uniform thing, that Aunt Ifa has the same kind of costume.

  3. Lesson o’ da’ week:

    It’s really now just simple economics, . . .

    . . . ask any bootstrappin’ Saine person their take,  . . .

    . . . but, doubt for nary ev’n a moment, . . .

    . . . these days it takes an entire village, a single pencil to make.

      1. There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

        If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

        The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

        So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President — because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together.

        President Barack Obama — July 13, 2012

        I’m going to make a claim that may seem outrageous: There is not a single human being on the earth that knows how to make a pencil. Now how can I say that? Because what I mean is, there is not a single human being on the face of the earth that knows how to make a pencil from scratch. There isn’t a single human being who knows the best kind of tree to make a pencil; how to make a saw to chop it down; how to build a railroad to take a log to the mill; knows how to cut the wood into perfectly symmetrical strips; knows how to make the yellow paint from various chemicals; knows how to manufacture erasers with just the right texture; knows how to do all of these things and still keep the price of a pencil down to two cents. The writing implement of choice for children all across America — all over the world.

        There are literally millions of people invested in making pencils . . .”

        Rep. Lori Saine — June 2020

        1. Saine copied most of the ideas in her rant from an essay called “I, Pencil”, by Leonard Read, a Libertarian economist and writer. 
           

          Read, more coherently than Saine, tries to make the case that the pencil is a great example of the Invisible Hand, and government shouldn’t regulate or interfere with the Invisible Hand because : the pencil.

          Yes, it’s still a stretch when he does it. 

  4. The Trump forces decided a Tulsa rally might not a celebration of Juneteenth after all … so they delayed a day.  First time I can recall the Sad!-ministration or scam-paign not rushing ahead with their "perfect" plan.

  5. WaPo noticed Colorado with two Hickenlooper headlines today:

    • Ethics panel fines former Colorado Gov. Hickenlooper $2,750
    • Hickenlooper on the defensive as ethics woes unsettle Colorado Senate race

    My favorite quote out of the two articles comes right at the end of the second:

    “John Hickenlooper’s popularity is an inch deep and a mile wide,” said Colorado Republican Party Chairman Ken Buck, who is also a member of Congress.

    1. Rs love to pick the Ds that they would rather run against. Either way, Where’s Cory is toast.

      But those WaPo headlines lag the deepening self-inflicted damage to Hick’s chances:

      Oil and gas and private donors paid for initiatives in Hickenlooper’s administration, investigation finds

      The donations overlapped with state business but the governor’s office had no conflict of interest policy, The Colorado Sun and CBS4 found

       

      No Policy? Therefore no problem!!!!

      The See-No-Evil defense.

  6. This is a really great (slightly long; it gets substantive at the 2:00 mark) piece about Confederate monuments and whether or not it is appropriate to get rid of them. I agree pretty strongly with this guy's take, which rests heavily on my major problem with Confederate monuments, specifically that they were erected mostly for the sole purpose of erasing the history of the Civil War. They're truly an integral part of the Lost Cause Myth that has, unfortunately, maintained far too much credence in the general public.

    Jefferson Beaurgard Davis was a traitor who sought to destroy the Union (so was Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson).  Kick back, buy some popcorn and let's see if this may turn out to be an unfortunate election cycle to be a "Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III" (named after his daddy and his granpappy also named in honor of Jefferson Beauregard Davis). 

    1. Meanwhile in Kentucky (the symbolic 13th state of the Confederacy).  This is the hill they choose to die on? So a gentle reminder the Confederacy only lasted five years; it's not like Ireland where centuries of ancestors lived and died. It's not "your heritage"; Nirvana lasted longer than this failed attempt to keep men enslaved. 

      #MealTeamSix 

      Armed group protects Confederate statue in Kentucky: ‘This is our battle line’

      On Friday, crowds of demonstrators gathered in Brandenburg, Kentucky — a small city west of Louisville — to protect a Confederate monument after local discussion of getting rid of it.

    2. The Confederate president was named Jefferson Finis Davis.  The Beauregard was Pierre Gustav Toutant Beauregard, a top confederate general.  Their pairing in the sessions family is ironic since Beauregard and Davis  hated each other.

      Robert E. Lee was a fine gentleman, who devoted the last five y ears of his life to trying to heal the wounds of war.

      1. Thanks for that correction, V.  I just checked out Beauregard’s wiki page and it does confirm that he, his daddy and his grandpappy were all named for Jefferson Davis and the middle name comes from yet another Confederate general: (not that I had any doubt that your were wrong! I’ve heard Jeff on a couple of occasions talk about his name in regards to JD, but I’ve never heard him mention Beauregard – something probably reserved for mint juleps on the veranda at his plantation in Dallas County with the nice white folk) 

        Sessions was born in Selma, Alabama, on December 24, 1946 the son of Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, Jr., and the former Abbie Powe. Sessions, his father, and his grandfather were named after Jefferson Davis, a U.S. senator and president of the Confederate States of America,[3] and P. G. T. Beauregard, a veteran of the Mexican-American War and a Confederate general who oversaw the Battle of Fort Sumter that commenced the American Civil War.

          1. He experienced quite a transformation: 

            Immediately after the Civil War, after being insulted and ridiculed in his own community, losing the right to vote, and becoming outraged in learning that properties he owned before the war just outside of the city limits of Memphis had been confiscated by the Freedman's bureau and developed into houses for blacks and a schoolhouse, he wrote letters to his friend John Slidell about his opinion on the emancipated black population. He wrote that the colored people were inferior, ignorant, and indolent. He predicted "that in seventy-five years the colored race would disappear from America along with the Indians and the buffalo" and a more historically-accurate one in which blacks would be controlled by the whites politically; blacks had not yet voted in the South, and it did not appear to him that they would.

            In the following years, Beauregard's inflamed opinion of blacks changed; in March 1867 Radical Republicans enforced black suffrage, as many Southerners became excited and resistant, and Beauregard wrote a widely published public letter that advised Southerners to accept the new situation. He said that the South could either submit or resist and that sensibly resistance is futile. He saw that through the colored right to vote and cooperation, the excesses of Radical Republican reconstruction like the burden of heavy taxation could be overcome and create a better future for the South. His pragmatic change in opinion is illustrated when he wrote that "the Negro is Southern born; with a little education and some property qualifications he can be made to take sufficient interest in the affairs and prosperity of the South to insure an intelligent vote."

    3. Beckinridge > Breckenridge
      It's still the same guy and they should change the name.
      Stapleton – name change, even if it's "the old airport" neighborhood
      Keenesburg Confederate Rebels – name change

       

  7. The coming bank collapse: 

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/07/coronavirus-banks-collapse/612247/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=masthead-newsletter&utm_content=20200613&silverid-ref=NjQxMzYyNTE2ODQ2S0

    Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs) are the new Collateralized Debt Obligations (CDOs) from 2008.  CDOs bundled subprime mortgages and then had rating agencies issue AAA ratings because it was unthinkable that lots of mortgages would go broke at the same time.  Oops — a 30% mortgage default rate took out Lehman Brothers and nearly the entire world economy.  CLOs are bundled subprime loans to shaky businesses that have received AAA ratings because it's unthinkable that lots of businesses in different industries could possibly go broke at the same time, unless there is a pandemic, or something.  The only difference is that the bank exposure is greater now than in 2008, and we are many, many trillions of dollars more in debt.

    The Biden Presidency will be facing an Obama redux, only many times over.

    Itlduso.

     

    1. Thanks, buddy. I have finally sort of mentally processed the Murder Hornet, just in time for racist murders plus mass demonstrations plus domestic militarization. Now this. Craving my Children's Chewable Morphine. 

        1. While you are probably correct about the health impacts of mixing and matching, as a disclaimer nothing in my statement was intended to discourage the use of gin.

  8. For Trump’s birthday today, please post pictures of Obama on all of $rump’s social media feeds. Here are two that show Obama is taller:

    And definitely cooler:


    And more popular:

  9. America Is Done With COVID-19. COVID-19 Isn’t Done With America

    [t]he U.S. is very much on fire, well into a second phase of the crisis, with the COVID-19 caseload steadily rising to more than 2 million confirmed cases and more than 113,000 deaths. According to a TIME analysis, 25 states are continuing to see case counts grow day by day. Four of those states—Arizona, California, Mississippi and North Carolina—have yet to decline for any extended window even temporarily.

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