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April 30, 2020 06:03 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

  • 21 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe.”

–H. G. Wells

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21 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

    1. I think it is wonderfully optimistic of you to think that once he’s no longer in office that Democrats will want to do anything about Trump or any of the oligarchs who have benefited from his scams.

        1. I would like to see Trump in an orange jumpsuit along with his whole crooked family. I just think it won’t happen.

          Rank and file Democrats want justice. I’m just skeptical of the leadership actually doing anything about it because that would be hard and/or require a spine. Much like how after the great recession there was a lot of desire to bring the crooks on Wall Street to justice, but actual action was minimal to none.

          My prediction for when Trump leaves office: Cases will be filed and there will be lots of breathless reporting at first. The cases will go on and on with motions on discovery and back and forthing. Five years after he leaves office the cases will start to be quietly settled with fines and no admission of guilt. The last one will end without any definite findings after a change in DA about a decade after. All the oligarchs who paid for their tax breaks walk away totally free and with all the money.

          Everybody knows that the dice are loaded..

          1. There is so much waiting for Dump in 2021 that he is dreading the unavoidable election loss. Thus the rumors (denied, but now he has that idea in his big brain) that he will cancel or delay the election and predictions that he won't leave the WH except by force (no peaceful transition). Look for a wild pack of dogs with tails wagging.

            Would any of that surprise anybody? Would leadership have enough spine to do something about that?

            You are assuming a peaceful transition. I hope that actually happens because if that is the crescendo from which everything else calms down and leadership can actually let it fade from consciousness then your skepticism might actually be allowed to prevail.

            But Dump is a showman who loves playing the victim and will not go and accept his due with nary a whimper. His actions will demand a response.

        2. I plan to ignore Cohen’s book because without investigation it will be impossible to figure out what is the truth and where he’s trying to cover himself or the Trump conspirators. It will eventually be useful for investigative writers trying to figure out what happened, but only with a lot of cross checking with other sources. Since I’m not a writer with contacts I have no use for such a book. I’ll read the articles about the book where non-Foxite reporters figure out what’s what.

  1. Economics is hard:

      AP:  "More than 3.8 million laid-off workers applied for unemployment benefits last week as the U.S. economy slid further into a crisis that is becoming the most devastating since the 1930s.

    Roughly 30.3 million people have now filed for jobless aid in the six weeks since the coronavirus outbreak began forcing millions of employers to close their doors and slash their workforces.

    BEA:  "Real gross domestic product (GDP) decreased 4.8 percent in the first quarter of 2020, according to the “advance” estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the fourth quarter of 2019, real GDP increased 2.1 percent."

    More jobs lost than were gained in the entire Obama recovery.  Trump promised 4% GDP growth — and has yet to have even a single quarter at that level, and annual rates of 2.4%, 2.9% and 2.3%. 

     

    1. The one that might actually be worth something some day (like a misprinted USPS stamp) is for SECRETARY S. MNUUCHIN

      I wonder if his nickname is Moochin'

  2. An interesting development from the Palmetto state.  My friends there say this is a 'B.F.D.': 

    Former Lindsey Graham donor flips to back Democratic opponent in Senate race

    A former top donor to Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and business executive is jumping across the aisle to support Democrat Jaime Harrison in South Carolina's Senate race. 

    Richard Wilkerson, the former chairman and president of Michelin's operations in North America, said he has known Harrison for years and is confident he can "bring lasting economic opportunity to the people of South Carolina."

  3. Sniff, sniff — do you smell something burning?  Oh, that just toasted tailfeathers!

     

  4. Just when Putin was ready to extend his Presidency by two terms, the bottom fell out of the oil market, and coronavirus is ravaging the country. Washington Post has the story.

        1. @ajb: I already digitally subscribe to the Denver Post and part of the New York Times. If I add another digital subscription, it will be the Colorado Sun.

          Generally, I get my spectrum of news from print subscriptions (from National Review to Mother Jones). 

    1. Fake news.  I have some MAGAs still left in my social feed who claim Russia has almost ZERO corovirus cases.  Vlad is apparently doing a bang-up job??

  5. Today’s Ttumptian crime against humanity:

    Quid pro mortem . . . 

    As Workers Fall Ill, U.S. Presses Mexico to Keep American-Owned Plants Open

    The Trump administration and major U.S. manufacturers have pressured Mexico to keep factories that supply the United States operating during the coronavirus pandemic, even as outbreaks erupt and waves of cases and deaths sweep the companies.

    Mexico must be responsive to the United States’ needs right now or, the U.S. ambassador to Mexico has said, risk losing the jobs that these factories provide.

    “You don’t have ‘workers’ if you close all the companies and they move elsewhere,” Ambassador Christopher Landau said on Twitter. “Of course health comes first, but to me it seems myopic to suggest that economic effects don’t matter.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/30/world/americas/coronavirus-mexico-factories.html

    . . . or, the America we’ve become.

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