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March 19, 2020 06:42 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

  • 36 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“Pride deafens us to the advice or warnings of those around us.”

–John C. Maxwell

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36 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

  1. Conservative has better idea than means testing the cash payments to households for the crisis. No, really.

    Instead trying to figure out who to send a check to, send one to everyone and then call the money back on next year’s taxes. In Oren Cass’s proposal it would be 70 percent or 100 percent for people earning from about $200,000 to $500,000.

    The rest of his proposal in the Atlantic is all about helping out corporations for the imposition of asking them to shut during a crisis. It is a idea only grifters and lobbyists could love without deep modifications. For starters, if businesses are to be supported they should be as means tested as individuals. Someone running a corner bakery is in need of support so they can stay in business, Starbucks not so much.

    1. well… 

      what about sending the checks (should be bigger- more like 8-10k) and then next year for social security tax, double the maximum amount of taxable  earnings  to $265,400.

      And lower the Medicare eligibility age to 62, with corresponding actuarially neutral Medicare premium for those who enroll prior to age 65.
       

       

       

  2. Sen. Cory Gardner continues to experience no symptoms after coming into contact with someone who later tested positive for the coronavirus. However, the senator's self-quarantine will continue for the next week. That means no voting.

    Anyone actively pointing out that Sen. Gardner could use some of the time saved by not going into the office or hanging around in the Senate champber for a virtual public forum?

    1. First confirmed case in Yuma County. (Gardner doesn't count.  He's busy draining the swamp).   It just got real to all those Dr. Limbaugh listeners out east.  

      1. I listened to a Facebook Live Q&A on the virus yesterday produced by the Fremont County public health agency. Fremont, a county of about 48,000 people in south central Colorado, is run by the Republican Party. They no longer elect any Democrats, as far as I know. 

        Here's the (sad) numbers they revealed yesterday: Only 6 people had been tested with no results back yet. The only testing was being done by the hospital in Cañon City and they were only testing people sick enough to be admitted. The public health office has zero test kits, but they've been "ordered." And apparently little (if anything) was being done to put social distancing in place, beyond what's been ordered by the Governor.

        Shocking.

  3. For a country that supposedly disfavors socialism a lot of Americans are definitely looking to government for solutions, not for profit industry.

     We need respirators, government.
    We need air traffic control.
    We need schools and libraries and roads and shipping depots… well, ports for the boats and dtransfer stations for the trains and trucks

     I want an iPad with lidar , and an eight foot tall fence – get out of the way, government.
     

    1. Suddenly government isn't the ogre trying to steal your money.  It's what's going to save us from a Mad Max world.  I'm OK with the change in attitude but government has to get it done and with Trump at the helm the jury is still out on this one.

  4. TO CONSERVE IS CONSERVATIVE

    Recently received my 2019 report from XCEL Energy's Windsource program. I purchased 3,848 kilowatt hours of wind power, which is equivalent to 5.2 hours of a two megawatt wind turbine operating at capacity.

    By getting my electricity from wind power, I avoided 4,017 pounds of CO-2 being released, which is equivalent to 4,570 miles driven in a car.

    1. I am truly and happily surprised!

      I feel that the best way that I can be of service at this time is to continue to work for the health and wellbeing of the people of Hawaii and our country in Congress, and to stand ready to serve in uniform should the Hawaii National Guard be activated.

      Does that mean her prior announcement about leaving the U.S. House of Reps is off? Sympathies to the people of Hawaii CD-2 if so, but it could have been far worse.

  5. A week ago, I predicted that at the rate of 130% rise in identified cases of covid19 per day, we would be over 200 by the end of March. We’re at 216 coronavirus cases now in Colorado, per CDPHE
     

    Colorado implemented drive through testing earlier than most other states, and presumably those people testing positive are quarantined or hospitalized. So that’s good news in a way! although it makes our case numbers higherthan surrounding states. 
     

    On Maddow last night, Rachel Maddow examined the case of a town , Vo, in Italy,  that tested aggressively, including asymptomatic folks,  and isolated positive people. They have had no new CV19 deaths in Vo lately. 

     

    1. I've been logging daily numbers from the COVID Tracking Project — average day over day number since I started on March 3 is 135%.  If that rate keeps up, at the end of the month we will be close to 400,000 cases.  Even if we rise at the LOWEST day over day rate (122%), US cases will be over 100,000.

    2. I've not been a big fan of Rachel Maddow. But I have definitely noticed the high quality of her fact based reporting and interviews during the past few weeks. 

  6. So, I notice it has been almost 3 weeks since the OD held a Trumpworship event. South Carolina, it was. It seems to me it is taking its toll. Add to that, the Whitest House seems to be in serious turmoil, and I am guessing the Secret Service won't let him run away to that hotbed of deadly pestilence…Mar-a-Lago.

    Heh,heh.

    1. I generally avoid ppv.

      But I would pay to see Trump/Kushner UFC
      Orange V. White!

      I know Kushner is younger, but I think the OD got a plan… throat punch maybe.

  7. Funny how all these "low-skilled" labor jobs like stocking groceries and being a bank teller are suddenly the most important and valuable jobs in America. 

    It's almost as though the standard theory of labor isn't actually true, but merely an excuse.

    3 weeks ago: "If you don't like your wage, get another job loser lol."

    Today: "Please don't quit, we need you, without you we can't survive this crisis."

    Perhaps delivery drivers, cashiers, and other "low-skilled" laborers should get a pay raise since we're seeing that these jobs are absolutely essential, even in good times.

    1. Trump supporter in January: "my 401k is going through the roof! Best economy ever! MAGA!!"

      Trump supporter on March 19: "would you like fries with your take-out order?"

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