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March 10, 2020 06:44 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“If two men agree on everything, you may be sure that one of them is doing the thinking.”

–Lyndon B. Johnson

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47 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

    1. A couple of decades ago, a group of wealthy Texans wanted to donate land which they owned in the area of Lake City. The recipient they intended was the state of Texas, with the intention of creating a Texas state park.

      The idea didn’t go very far.

  1. ABT

    I like Joe.
    I like Bernie.

    If it's one of them – ABT may be easier for me than some.
    Depends on the nominee's VP choice.

    I'm not worried about a Bernie choice.

    Joe, however, is sort of nuts. Still, 

    ABT
     

    1. As a diehard Hillary man, I hoped we’d nominate Kamala, Amy or Elizabeth.

      But I can live with Joe, who looks ready to wrap it up tonight.  With either Kamala or Amy as veep.

      I can’t live with Trump.

      Trump stinks!

      But help is on the way.

    2. Of course … they are in full-scale deflection mode:

      Trump and GOP mount coordinated campaign to paint Biden as senile

      President Donald Trump stood before about 500 of the Republican Party’s biggest patrons at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Friday and raised a topic few in the audience expected: Joe Biden’s mental capacity.

      TRUMP'S 'MENTAL IMPAIRMENT MEANS HE CANNOT THINK STRATEGICALLY OR IN ABSTRACT TERMS,' CLAIMS PROFESSOR OF PSYCHIATRY

      "Trump has no policy on any issue because his mental impairment means he cannot think strategically or in abstract terms," tweeted John M. Talmadge, MD, a physician and clinical professor of psychiatry at U.T. Southwestern Medical Center.

      "He cannot weigh options, assess risk, or foresee consequences. Concepts like fairness, justice, honor, and integrity quite literally do not register. You can see this in every interview or press encounter. He never states an abstract thought or idea.

      But he's a really, really nice guy – if only the Fake News would reported accurately!  

  2. If it does come down to Trump v. Biden … here is an early indicator.

     GOP mayor in pro-Trump county explains his surprise vote for Biden

    Greg Sargent:

    You voted for Trump in 2016 and now you’re switching.

    Michael Taylor:

    I’m not proud of my vote for him. I’m not satisfied with his leadership. I don’t think the country’s heading in the right direction. I think he’s incompetent. I think he’s divisive. I think he lacks moral character.

  3. Sometimes your only choices are to admit you fucked up or lie.  Joe?

      1. I'm pretty much of the opinion that almost no one in the majority cares how he voted on any issue 15, 20, 30 years ago (the African-Americans proved that theory in South Carolina.  There was plenty to beat him up on from old votes).  This is a battle for the middle (the few undecideds that are left) and flushing the turd on November 3rd.  

        A. B. T. 

        1. If that’s true, why the lies today?  This, Mandela, the silver star thing, his “civil rights work.”  For stuff that isn’t important, Joe lies a lot.

          1. It doesn’t seem to be moving his numbers downward?  That, and when the comparison is the bullshit artist who has lied on the average of 7 times a day since taking office it all seems pretty trite. 

            I was in the Kamala camp so Joe wasn’t my choice – but I’m ABT. 

            1. I"ve been thinking about the Jackson 5.
              I keep hearing MJ singing "ABT, 123, … you and me…"

                Did MJ  get the Simpsons clairvoyance when he was almost on the show?

    1. Re: Choices (plural vs. singular)

      When folks finally realize that their only choices this cycle are Ttump or Biden, there’s really only one (not-all-that-difficult-of-a) choice?

          1. Since 2014, the region began disposing of abandoned houses with some being given away and others being sold for a nominal price. Recipients agreed to spend at least 35,000 euros on restoration within five years to earn permanent title.

            This may or may not still be an active plan – but there are other places doing something similar, including Japan and west Kansas.

             

            1. Atwood, Kansas is giving away land for houses.  The downside is you have to live in Atwood.  Kansas.  (I think you can get the same deal in Bird City)

              1. Not as bad as Leoti, Garden, Scott City, Tribune, or…(name West Kansas town here)

                I do actually like Sharon Springs though.  I can handle that – charming little town.

                1. Sharon Springs is a nice town. St. Francis falls into the same category, although the bias of my youth is showing (in my day they had a drive-in theater and a pool hall downtown who’s proprietor was ambivalent of your age when buying beer.  Hair under your arms?  You were good. Needless to say I have some fond memories of that west Kansas town, which was as close to our ranch as Wray.)

                  1. I used to farm cane hay, triticale and wheat in Greely County so we ended up spending a lot of time in Sharon Springs. Its lively and doing well for a small town out there, which is great to see.

                    I also did some work on a ranch off 83 south of Oakley that the Butterfield Overland Dispatch ran right through.  Very interesting little-known history there.

                    And yes, CHB, I've witnessed " Mount " Sunflower ! I'll try to check out St. Francis sometime.  It's not for everyone, but I find it quite peaceful out that way.

                  2. This small town in Kansas has risen like a phoenix from the devastation 13 years ago from a Category 5 tornado.  It is farm country with tech incubator seeds planted.  Less than a thousand people, so anyone could make a huge impact on their growth.

                  3. One-hundred fifty miles north of Greensburg is Nicodemus, KS. Founded by newly freed slaves in 1877, Nicodemus was a refuge from the Reconstruction-era South, a reflection of a mass black migration from the South to the Midwest after the Civil War. Nicodemus was the first black community west of the Mississippi River and is the only predominantly black community west of the Mississippi that remains a living community today.

    1. Gardner was co-sponsor of a bi-partisan bill to fully fund the Land and Water Conservation Fund. If I recall correctly, Michael Bennet was also on the bill. The bill also included $1 billion to address the maintenance backlog in national parks. Wonder of wonders, Trump actually signed the bill.

      1. The legal authorization of the LWCF expired on Sunday, September 30, 2018.

        The Land and Water Conservation Fund was permanently reauthorized as part of the bipartisan John D. Dingell, Jr. Conservation, Management, and Recreation Act, signed into law on March 12, 2019. It requires at least 40% of funds to be used by federal agencies and at least 40% to be allocated to the states.

        Advocates have been working on this permanent authorization a long time.  

      2. ConservAmerica was a good organization.  I lobbied with them on the LWCF over a decade ago when I was still a registered Republican.  C.H.B. – did you ever know Tweeti Blanchett, a New Mexico rancher from the Four Corners area, who was really active in this org (at the time). Great lady. Since my time on CapHill with her she too grew disillusioned with the party and left. 

        1. I met Tweeti, and her husband Linn, several years ago. Fine people.

          We were comrades in the O&G wars. Tweeti , as I recall, was pretty feisty. It has been awhile.

           

          1. I adored her. She was fiesty; you did not have to guess what was on her mind!  I’m not at all surprised she’s left the party. She was an old time conservative – a dying breed in the party of Lincoln and Teddy R.  

            1. I met Tweeti, I think, at a wilderness conference for conservatives, in Albuquerque, in the early 2000s. As for ConservAmerica, they've had problems in the Trump era, beginning with endorsing Scott Pruitt for EPA administrator. They thought they could work with him; and, wow, were they wrong.

              1. Tweeti and Linn were betrayed by their faith in honesty and integrity. Conservative ranchers, I believe Linn said 5 generations, they believed the oil and gas industry, their local authorities, and their political party would treat them fairly and that justice could be found in dealing with the oil and gas industry. 

                They, of course, discovered otherwise.

                1. Yep.  It was a sight to behold watching her crawl up the back end of Congressional staff in Republican offices on CapHill. She took no prisoners (not that it accomplished anything in the end for her and Linn).

  4. "President Donald Trump, in a meeting with Republican lawmakers Tuesday on Capitol Hill, pitched a 0% payroll tax rate for employers and employees that would last through the rest of this year, a White House official told CNBC.

    There was also discussion of making the payroll tax rollback permanent, said the official, who declined to be named. Payroll taxes are used to fund Medicare and Social Security. When asked about the potential cost of a payroll tax cut, the official pushed back and asked why there is always a focus on the cost of tax cuts."
     

     

    Mulvaney?
    Mnuchin?
    Bluth?

    1. Maybe Powerful Pear or Moderatus will come on and tell us exactly how a tax cut is useful for dealing with a public health issue.

      1. Moderatus has other worries right now, what with the Kleenex shortage . . .

        . . . things are likely to be getting much rougher for him. 

      2. Same way it was useful to reduce the deficit. Or remove the lead in Flint and hundreds of other places. Or stabilize Medicare and Social Security.

    2. It's obvious, isn't it, Michael? It fulfills one of the Greedy Old Poops' fondest wishes; entitlement cuts. The more they cut what's paid in, the sooner they can declare S.S./Medicare insolvent and dispatch them permanently. I hope whoever takes over next year pushes to get combined contributions back up to 15%; where they were before the RepublRats bitched about them so.

       

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