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August 20, 2010 09:29 PM UTC

Waiting for RINO/DINO

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  • by: NoCo_Indy

I keep thinking it’s going to happen … one of these days … that the “Blue Dog Democrats” and the “Rockefeller Republicans” are going to realize how much power there is in the middle.

It used to be that the legislators who were in the middle used to get things done. In my neck of the woods, Bill Kaufman, Stan Matsunaka and Don Marostica were far more effective than their contemporaries (paging Mr. Welker …) at getting meaningful changes to the state’s core functions of education and transportation.

Occasionally someone will put a hand up and say he or she speaks for the middle, the common person, but then lurches to one side or the other to propose utopian, unconstitutional or wildly impractical solutions.

Deport 12 million people tomorrow? With what resources, exactly? And will my laid off friends in various professions snap up the manual labor or skilled trade positions such a move would probably open? Are they even qualified? Unlikely.

Decrease class sizes to the point where every student has no more than 20 in a class? Again, how? And what metric out there shows that this will have a return on investment in the form of much-better educated residents?

Politics in Bismarck’s day used to be the art of the possible.

Now it’s the art of bringing down the other guy. Calling him or her a DINO or RINO. If everyone with that label got together, what a large creature it would be.

As it stands, those two will be sitting on the bench waiting for their parties to return to a form they recognize — and it will be something that will never come.

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10 thoughts on “Waiting for RINO/DINO

  1. You don’t get to have an extreme left winger Obama followed by a moderate Republican. We’re fed up and we’re not going to take it anymore. You can moderate after we undo all the damage the left has done.

      1. BJ isusing a sig line from one of the most moderate posters on this site.

        Further proof he has no idea what he’s talking about.

        Indy – your diary is spot on. We do need more moderates, now more than ever. The most effective governing comes from the middle. One step at a time instead of the whole enchilada.

        The extreme wings of the party are polarizing this country to a point where moderates are vilified and good governance takes a back seat to scoring political points for minority consituents.

        We need fewer labels and more intelligence in this country to get us out of the place we’re in.

        1. He is addressing problems of longstanding. Not fast enough because there hasn’t been any money and his party hasn’t had the hair in Congress to do such as single payer.

          Now we’re out of Iraq. Deficit growth will slow. Doors ought to open.

    1. So are you thoroughly brainwashed (my best guess) or are you a moron?

      We had a damned well functioning country until Reagan got into office and started his very intentional destruction of the middle class.  Just like he destroyed the educational system in California.  Do you know why every community has homeless, or are you too young to know what he did?  (Clue: Close the state institutions, send the money to the communities. Guess what never happened?)

      Clinton threw us a few bones but many of the laws passed under his watch continued the slide (NAFTA, the Telecommunications Act, etc.)

      It’s the plutocrats and the corporations that have always been the enemy of “the people.” And the Republicans have tended, since about 1900, to be their water boys.

  2. about how DINO our representatives are, those reps. just keep on slogging in the Beltway mire, trying to drag a little positive change across the ever-moving finish line.

    Sens. Boxer and Gillibrand have teamed up to save a program that would bring green jobs and economic relief to homeowners. Property Assessed Clean Energy or PACE programs have been authorized in 23 states and were poised to create the kind of green economy that Obama ran on. That is until Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stepped in and blocked their customers from participating.

    Barbara Boxer has stepped to the plate with S 3642, a bill that is co-sponsored by Gillibrand, Begich, Bennet, Merkley and Mark Udall. I don’t know if this bill can get the bipartisan support that it needs to pass, but I still respect the leadership from these five senators.

    This was written by a constituent of Gillibrand.  Nice to see someone respect the leadership of our two senators.

  3. I do think we are in the early stages of a grand political realignment of the two parties. Many think the Tea Baggers will carry the Republicans over the finish line this fall, but I believe the moderate center will reject the extreme positions staked out by this faction. Instead, it could be the death knell of one of our major parties.

    Then there is the profound disappointment of the left wing of the Democratic party to many of the centrist positions taken by Obama and the more conservative Blue-Dog coalition of the party. From single-payer, to lack of enforcement of international treaty obligations in the previous administration (read countenancing torture) to not closing Guantanamo, etc, etc.

    The center may be more pragmatic and get things done when governing, but the passion to get elections won comes from the more polarized elements of each party. So we have a conundrum there. How to have the base motivated to get out there and win the election while the governing elements work against the base’ ideals?

    And btw, why is “Utopian” always cast is such a negative light? What is exactly wrong with striving for Utopian ideals? Wasn’t Christ a Utopian? And Ghandi? and Mohammed? Seems to me that Utopians are the ones who really change the world in the most meaningful ways.

    1. It has those striving for utopia to keep pulling the party in that direction. And it has the moderates to find compromise. You need both for the combination of accomplishing needed change today but also crafting a better tomorrow.

      The Republican party is a disaster because they have lost that pairing. Instead the lunatics have taken over the asylum and are busy running purity checks on those that remain. Great for ratings on Fox News the the Rush Show. Not good for the party or the country.

    2. Where is it written that these two parties should/will last forever? The bourgeoise Republican party of the post-Civil War was handed over to the white minoritarians of the Confederacy by.Nixon; it has long, long outlasted its utility. No capitalist could argue that the Bush 2 era policies of unfunded wars served the interests of capitalism!

      The most interesting political development of the next decade will be the evolution of the Left.  

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