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November 28, 2019 06:46 AM UTC

Thanksgiving Weekend Open Thread

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    1. My favorite holiday.  Unlike Greedmas, this celebrates family and friends.   

      Bless you all, even our trolls, and have a joyous repast filled with good memories.

  1. The media is focused on the wrong things and mostly telling the story badly.

    Mcgahn is not going to show up. Bolton neither.
    Of course Sonderland is a bucket head… now.
    Food, football, fashion and weather.

    Enjoy whatever you are trying to enjoy. If you drive this weekend stay sober and focused- many drivers will not be either.

     

  2. Happy Thanksgiving … may you get your choices on the extent of family at the table, the food on the table, and the topics for discussion around the table.

  3. I have come to dislike that Norman Rockwell painting over the years.

    Reminds too much of reality. My maternal grandmother doing all the work. Her husband doing not much. He wearing the suit and tie and being extremely reserved. Warm and loving is not a phrase I associate with my grandparents. Of course, they were born in 1895.

    1. To quote the "That is Priceless" cartoon for today which used this illustration, "Grandma is thankful no one saw her when she dropped the turkey in the kitchen floor."

       

  4. Leaving a legacy for the future fuels Boomer's support for Mayor Pete to become President Pete:

    Older voters who support Mr. Buttigieg say he represents the best hope for the country, offering a future-focused vision that they feel will help younger generations. They often cite his intelligence, his plain-spokenness and his military service as reasons he is now a top choice even if they knew little of him just months earlier. And of those who mention his sexuality at all, they often treat it with a shrug.

    “We should tilt toward somebody a little more in touch with the issues that are really, really important to the 40s and under,” said Bill Horner, 79, who came from his farm in Red Oak, Iowa, to see Mr. Buttigieg at an event on Monday morning. “They’re the ones who have the longest time in this country.”

    Gordon Reisinger, 79, who works in the cattle business, said before Mr. Buttigieg’s event in Red Oak that he and his parents had long been Republicans but Mr. Trump’s election profoundly shifted his views. Now, he is considering Mr. Buttigieg because “he would move our country forward.”

    “I think with somebody like Pete, it gives our grandchildren a chance to live in America in a free country like we have most of our time,” he said.

    In Iowa, 28 percent of likely Democratic caucus goers 65 and older supported Mr. Buttigieg, according to the Register poll; that puts him ahead of Mr. Biden, who had dominated the group with 35 percent support in September. Mr. Buttigieg has also edged past Mr. Biden in New Hampshire, the first primary state, and now leads the field among voters over 65, with 17 percent, according to a Suffolk University/Boston Globe poll this week.

     

  5. Note to Weld County Sheriff Steve Reams:  Have a chat with your brethren in Oklahoma, who have passed their own red-flag law (for workplaces, at least):

    A new law, enacted by the Oklahoma Legislature this year with Paycom’s guidance, allows businesses to petition the court for a victim’s protective order much like one that a woman might obtain against a former boyfriend. A judge can order a potentially dangerous person to stay away from a business or its employees, which companies couldn’t do before.

  6. Former Clinton strategist Mark Penn counsels President Trump on impeachment

    Penn visited the Oval Office for more than an hour last Monday, three people familiar with the meeting said, and provided polling data and impeachment advice for the president. Penn reassured Trump that he would not be removed from office, according to people familiar with the meeting, and encouraged him to travel the country as Clinton did when he was fighting impeachment over 20 years ago, officials said.

    1. IIRC, Mark Penn (and the other idiot whose name escapes me) were the architects of HRC's "brilliant" strategy in 2008 of not contesting caucus states and small states because HRC had the nomination in the bag.

      I'm happy Trump is getting advice from Mark Penn. Maybe Dick Morris can sign on too.

    2. Trump visit

      • Wednesday afternoon golf in Florida.
      • 7 pm secret departure for a flight from Mar a Lago to Joint Base Andrews
      • 13 hour flight to Afghanistan
      • 3.5 hours on the ground "serving turkey" to a few dozen troops, meeting with military brass, and a short meeting with the Afghan President —
      • had a bit of "rah rah" exchange with the Afghan President in front of about 1,500 soldiers inside a hanger.
      • 17 hour flight back to Florida via Germany
      • Friday round of golf at Mar a Lago

      Between two rounds of golf each lasting about 5 hours, Trump had over 30 hours of flying for less than 4 hours on Afghanistan ground. 

      On the plus side, Trump updated everyone of planned negotiations leading to a ceasefire with the Taliban and more negotiations — and by "everyone," I want to include some of the US military, some diplomatic corps members in Afghanistan, the Afghan President and the Taliban.

  7. We can afford Medicare for All

    If you see the health system this way, it changes how you understand the entire U.S. tax system. Many people believe that the United States has what’s known as a progressive tax system, in which you pay more, as a fraction of your income, as you earn more. It’s true that income taxes are for the most part designed that way, but when you add all the various tax burdens together, the reality is different. And if you add mandatory private health insurance premiums to the official tax take, the U.S. tax system turns out to be highly regressive. Once private health insurance is factored in, the average tax rate rises from a bit less than 30 percent at the bottom of the income distribution, reaches close to 40 percent for the middle class, and collapses to 23 percent for billionaires.

    When politicians urgently debate the tax burden on the middle class, they rarely point out that the system is already unfairly built on the backs of the middle class — and it’s our health care premiums that make it that way.

    To address this problem, the government should legislate the conversion of employer health care premiums into a permanent wage increase at the time of the transition to Medicare for All. From the point of view of employers, this conversion would be neutral: for them, the cost of each worker would not change. Because health insurance premiums are already reported on W-2 forms and pay slips, this wage increase would be easy to enforce and monitor. Firms that try to pocket the premiums instead of boosting wages could be fined.

  8. People always said that I didn't give up my seat because I was tired, but that isn't true. I was not tired physically, or no more tired than I usually was at the end of a working day. I was not old, although some people have an image of me as being old then. I was forty-two. No, the only tired I was, was tired of giving in. 

    Rosa Parks, My Story

    On Dec 1, 1955, Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat to a white man on a Montgomery bus, sparking the Montgomery bus boycott, one of the first major actions of the modern civil rights movement.
     

    Archival AP photo, Wikimedia commons

     

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