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August 03, 2010 10:21 PM UTC

Does the end justify the means?

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  • by: CrankyOldLady

Shills and blind loyalty aside (yeah, right), why is Romanoff running the campaign he’s running?

I believe Romanoff to be heeding counsel that’s horrible for his integrity but possibly a winning approach for his campaign. And this sickens me.

I want to believe that if his campaign had been (competently) run touting his experience and the good he’s done for Colorado that he could have won without resorting to the kinds of tactics I generally expect from Republicans. But I have to admit these are the kinds of tactics that frequently win.

They attacked Bennet for Romanoff’s strongest selling point: being a political insider. And now they’re pounding the drum on not being able to change Washington while doing the same thing that’s always been done in DC–accepting PAC money. (While running a campaign whose strategy (if not execution) is right out of Rove’s handbook.)

Let’s pretend (hope) Romanoff is still in this because he believes he can make a difference. And that he’s taking the approach he’s taking because he feels the end justifies the means.

Does it? Can it?

I don’t think so. I agree with the people who say it’s much easier to change the direction of a ship if you’re actually ON the ship, instead of pushing from the outside. So maybe this is Romanoff’s rationale –that he can’t make things better if he’s not on the inside doing what he can to steer the ship.

But I don’t think it’s possible to remain untainted when you’re running a campaign that distorts reality in your own service–even if you think of it as in the service of the future where you get to make the difference that’s needed.

In this, at least, I agree with David T–if you’re doing the same old things expecting to effect change, you’re unlikely to be successful.

We’ll see shortly whether this approach will win the primary for Romanoff. I know for sure it lost my vote.

Until then, I return you to your regularly scheduled bickering shillfest and I’ll go back to yelling at the kids who let their dogs poop on my lawn.  

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18 thoughts on “Does the end justify the means?

  1. Why is Bennet running the shittiest campaign this side of Both Ways Bob?  If you don’t have the skills or management ability to beat a guy who has to sell his house in order to compete, maybe you don’t belong in the US Senate.

    1. …the Romanoff campaign tactics would be ineffective against a better run campaign? Or are you wanting a diary where you can lament Bennet’s approach?

        1. I agree that Romanoff went hard comparative first. But there was a lot of trash talking of Romanoff from the day he declared by the Bennet campaign.

          And a lot (not all) of Romanoff’s attacks have been on the issues. They’re issues where Bennet compares poorly, but those are the issues a candidate should bring up.

          1. Bennet voted to cut a cost of living adjustment for Social Security? False. Bennet didn’t support the public option until Romanoff announced? False. Bennet voted for the Bush/Paulson bailout? False.

            If all he’s going to do is lie, he will lose the general. The media stays pretty hands-off with regards to substantive claims during primaries (they are far more interested in the drama of the bloody fist fight than boring policy). They will not be so forgiving in the general. Andrew will have to actually base his attacks on reality or they will not stick.

            1. The claim Bennet voted for the bailout was made by an independent PAC, not Romanoff.

              As to attacks, saying Bennet takes PAC money and he doesn’t – true. Saying Bennet rolled over for the banks – true.

        2. tout your experience in the private sector as an asset, then you sure as hell better be able to defend it when it bites you in the ass.

          Maybe the campaign can only do so much.  You can’t polish a turd.

  2. First off, I think the ends rarely justify the means in the way the question is usually meant. On the flip side, in WWII we embraced total war killing millions of civilians because it was the only way to win. So in that case yes the ends justified horrific means.

    Truly competitive political races are brutal. I don’t think we’re talking ends vs means here, we’re talking what is a fair comparison vs what is unfair. And many times that’s a difficult question because each campaign thinks the attacks on them are unfair while the attacks they make are totally legit.

    The race was gentle (and an easy win for the incumbent, gentle always is). No question Romanoff made it rough (and competitive). But I don’t think we’ve gone beyond the bounds of what is common practice in a primary.

    I think the important thing is for both sides to push back and for the media and others to call fouls where they see them in the ads and other actions. But just as a single foul in a basketball game does not mean that team is scum, a foul in political advertising happens – on both sides.

    1. …I believe in forceful TRUTHFUL attacks. Romanoff’s most recent ad was not just spin, it outright lied.

      I realize, from your previous comments, that you’re in the camp that says they all lie, so ignore the lies. But your examples consistently talk about someone lying about himself to make himself look better. Not someone making up lies about someone else to make him look worse. This may, for some, be a distinction without a difference.

      To me it’s all the difference in the world.

      1. And, honestly, I’m not trying to defend the lie, but I’m curious if anyone can provide a link to the Forbes article(?) the ad sites? Does it include the word “loot” in it?

        This may have been covered in a previous thread, so I apologize if I’m repeating something. I just can’t keep up so I’m using the most recent Dem Senate Primary thread to bring it up.

          1. I just had absolutely no interest in funneling through 268 comments of primarily bs, but trusty “ctrl f” helped me find all references to the word. Still can’t find the Forbes article, but I’ll contact the campaign for that.  

    1. He said he’d ask the DSCC to only use non-PAC money to help him.

      I’m sure it’ll make him feel better–just like it makes me feel better when I write “for education only” on my checks to the IRS.

      Now don’t you feel all warm and fuzzy about everything?

      /snark

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