U.S. Senate
See Full Big Line
(D) J. Hickenlooper*
(R) Somebody
80%
20%
Governor
See Full Big Line
(D) Michael Bennet
(D) Phil Weiser
60%↑
50%↓
Att. General
See Full Big Line
(D) M. Dougherty
(D) Jena Griswold
60%↑
40%↑
Sec. of State
See Full Big Line
(D) A. Gonzalez
(D) J. Danielson
(R) Sheri Davis
50%
40%
30%
State Treasurer
See Full Big Line
(D) Brianna Titone
(D) Jeff Bridges
(R) Kevin Grantham
40%
40%
30%
CO-01 (Denver)
See Full Big Line
(D) Diana DeGette*
(R) Somebody
90%
2%
CO-02 (Boulder-ish)
See Full Big Line
(D) Joe Neguse*
(R) Somebody
90%
2%
CO-03 (West & Southern CO)
See Full Big Line
(R) Jeff Hurd*
(D) Somebody
80%
40%
CO-04 (Northeast-ish Colorado)
See Full Big Line
(R) Lauren Boebert*
(D) Somebody
90%
10%
CO-05 (Colorado Springs)
See Full Big Line
(R) Jeff Crank*
(D) Somebody
80%
20%
CO-06 (Aurora)
See Full Big Line
(D) Jason Crow*
(R) Somebody
90%
10%
CO-07 (Jefferson County)
See Full Big Line
(D) B. Pettersen*
(R) Somebody
90%
10%
CO-08 (Northern Colo.)
See Full Big Line
(R) Gabe Evans*
(D) Manny Rutinel
(D) Yadira Caraveo
45%↓
40%↑
30%
State Senate Majority
See Full Big Line
DEMOCRATS
REPUBLICANS
80%
20%
State House Majority
See Full Big Line
DEMOCRATS
REPUBLICANS
95%
5%
June 13, 2006 08:00 AM UTC
72 Comments
Now let’s see if it takes them ANOTHER five months to review what is essentially, ONE PARAGRAPH.
So much for separation of powers.
Do Nothing Republicans wasting time and money because they have a tired, failed vision.
To quote the Littwin column I link to:
“I hate to waste your time, but don’t blame me. Blame Dick Lamm. Blame Tom Tancredo. Blame the people at Defend Colorado Now.
They want to amend the Colorado Constitution with an amendment that does . . . absolutely . . . nothing.
Let me repeat that.
It’s a proposed amendment – and one that will almost certainly pass – that does . . . absolutely . . . nothing.
It is supposed to be an amendment addressing the problem of illegal immigration in Colorado.
It doesn’t – in any serious way.
It is supposed to be an amendment that has some impact on illegal immigration in Colorado.
It doesn’t – in any way at all.”
Wow, I might suspend my membership in the “Hate Governor Owens Club” for a a while if he can put up a good fight for this one.
Go for it Bill! We’re right behind you (on this one).
Well, we’ve all known Litwin is a nitwit, and most of us have known for a long time that the Colorado Supreme Court is a bad, hard left partisan joke.
Those darn activist judges. Isn’t it something how my party wants to howl in protest about these kinds of things (the cynical side of me says this ballot initiative was written intentionally as it was, knowing it would be challenged, it would be disallowed, and we could once again spend all of our precious time on the ails of the judicial system) — while in reality (a place this party no longer resides), the judges just handed them the only chance they may have to bring on an issue that will stir up our uninterested base. Let’s have the Guv call a special session, waste all of our time and money, do a little grandstanding — and get everyone to the polls. Three cheers for these judges — and thanks for doing exactly what Trailhead & Co. expected you to do … your check is in the mail.
Pacified, Litwin (the nitwhit) and yourself should read it again. There are some teeth in there that will curb illegal’s from coming to our state. I didn’t think the gov would take a stand, I’m begrudgingly (sp) happy that he did.
Other than emergency medical care and education, what services to illegal immigrants currently get? It seems to me they can’t get other services unless they have fraudulent documents and if that is the case, it’s a criminal issue. What will this initiative actually prevent?
It prevents the legislature from passing silly things like in-state tuition breaks and drivers licenses for illegals.
Goobner Billy O is pulling an election year stunt. He’s caving in to the racists, and bigots who “don’t want none of them brown skins in my city.” This is NOT about border security, this is about racism, bigotry and hate. Way to go Billy, you’ve shown us just what type of politician you are. Look out world Goobner Billy is running for the Sentate in 2008.
if republicans want any chance to win in november, owens will call the session and the republicans will make the democrats vote against putting it on the ballot.
Sojouner,
You’re race baiting this issue. It’s about keeping services to tax paying citizens. It’s not about skin color or ethnicity. The focus of it has been on Mexico because last anyone checked, Canadians weren’t running here by the thousands across the northern border.
Give one good reason why illegal immigrants should be allowed to have welfare, drivers lic, voting privileges,etc.
If a special session is called a proposed referendum or law will be put forth, heavily debated, amended beyond recognition and eventually killed.
It would seem to me we could spend all that money on something useful.
Seems to me that all this republican grandstanding on illegals will have the net effect of delivering the hispanic vote to the democrats for the next 50 years.
Willis,
Suggesting that arguing DCN in the leg is not useful, you are essentially turning a blind eye to the fact that illegal immigration is a serious issue for colorado.
What do you suggest they spend that money on?
They prefer to spend the money protecting a man’s right to wear a dress to work. Now, that’s grandstanding.
Or how about passing a marriage light referendum?
Or, what about dictating what school’s put in their vending machines?
These are issues that matter to the Dems. All other issues are Republican and in turn racist.
To You’re Wrong, It’s an election year stunt by Goobner Billy. Get the god fearing white repubthugs a feared of them Mexicans and that will get them out to the polls. FEAR motivates and FEAR of brown skins will get the evangelical, white, rich and red-nec poor repubthugs out to the voting booths. It’s illegal for ANY illegal alien to get welfare, or to vote in Colorado right now. You are saving us from WHAT? This is CLASSIS Karl Rove, fear, divide the electorate, use what ever you have to, race, gays, guns, abortion. Right now this is the perfect way to divide people. It’s a political STUNT by the Goobner. Thank you for pointing out that Billys actions are Race Baiting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_baiting
You’re right about one thing, it is illegal for them to get those services BUT that doesn’t change the fact that they do. With sanctuary cities and the pro-illegal immigration attitude of some many places in Colorado, we need more action.
SoJo, if you are going to make a point about how ignorant others are on this issue, might I suggest that you use spell check. Just a thought.
Bueno
It’s illegal for you to speed, or run a stop sign. You do it anyway. We need more action, a ballot initiative to stop you.
It’s about making a statement that illegal immigration will not be tolerated in Colorado. We taxpayers understand that. That’s probably why you don’t.
IT’S AN ELECTION YEAR STUNT BY GOOBNER BILLY TO GET WHITE VOTERS OUT. Nothing more.
Why don’t you get that it’s is an impotent statement. Do you think it’s important to keep illegal Canadians out of public parks? It will keep the brown skins out of the parks too, that OK with you. That’s how stupid this is. Where is the ballot initiative to put BUSINESS EMPLOYERS in jail for hiring illegal aliens? IF “illegal immigration will not be tolerated” then why not get real about the issue, go after Employers. If you’re implying I’m not a taxpayer, that’s a funny one.
Immigration is the republican party’s early christmas gift. This one issue, like abortion, guns and gay rights will pretty much hand them the election this fall.
Spending cuts. Oh my, the horror!
Keep passing initiatives that try to limit hispanic growth and, you’ll pay this coming election.
So illegal immigration is now to be called by the buzzwords “hispanic growth?”
Does that make it any more legal, I wonder?
Committee recommends Churchill be fired
The stories:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_3932642
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4771570,00.html
The final report:
http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/pdf/churchillfinalreport.pdf
Hey, Churchill is a good radical liberal democrat.
Which means, of course, that he’s lying scum doing his best to perpetrate fraud on the state and its citizens.
I agree, election year stunts.
The initiative was vague, although I think the Court stretched a little in their opinions (Amend 38 is much more complex with more ambiguity but that was allowed on). The initiative would have done nothing except create more work for the Legislature defining what services are non-emergency. Gov Lamm himself has said this. Parks, libraries, vaccinations, real estate transfers, drivers licenses…the list goes on.
The special session will put votes on record for election year campaigning. Dan W said it best. What a waste. Besides, now my vacation is shot.
If George W. Bush and the GOP Congress actually did something on this issue we wouldn’t be talking about it right now–they don’t want to fix a system even when IT IS BROKEN! This goes to show the GOP is devoid of leadership, ideas, and will be sent to the waste basket of history.
1 immigrant, 7 DUI arrests, 13 aliases
Repeat offender dodged deportation until fatal crash sent ICE into action
Fernando Quintero and Burt Hubbard, Rocky Mountain News
By 2003, Damian Campos, a Mexican immigrant, had seven arrests for driving under the influence in northern Colorado and used 13 different names.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4758827,00.html
So why aren’t the Dems grabbing onto it and calling it “leadership”?
The answer is, “they need the votes”.
You’re wrong – You’re not wrong, you are ignorant. Sanctuary cities were discussed at length in the legislature and a bill was passed to ban them. In discussing the bill, the only city that even remotely had a semblance of a sanctuary policy was Durango, and their policy was just outlawed by SB 90. And, while many communities agree that the problem of undocumented immigration has gotten out of hand, it is the Republican controlled, congress and white house, that have been afraid to tick off their contributers in the business community who want cheap (slave) labor. It is already a crime to use false documents to get state services, and we provide no welfare to the undocumented, only federally mandated, health care and education. How easy it is to say we will not target undocumented immigration, how difficult to craft a solution that really works.
Denver had a sanctuary policy, too, and so did Boulder, at least informally.
And if the democrats are so concerned about this problem, and if they want to show that it’s the Republicans that allegedly can’t solve it, then they should be enthusiastically DEMANDING a special session, to demonstrate those things.
That the dems are not, that the dems here are whining and complaining about it, demonstrates quite clearly to the contrary.
>…we provide no welfare to the undocumented, only federally mandated health care and education.
The ignorance demonstrated by that completely false statement is breathtaking in its depth.
Sorry quixote, but one must be a citizen to be eligible for welfare – do you even know what that is? Do you know anything about welfare eligibility or do you just spit back things you have heard with no first hand information? And again, I agree that undocumented immigration is not a plus either for this country or for the undocumented. But, truly, what is the state of Colorado to do about this national problem? Many of the things tried by Arizona have been abject failures – ask Arizona? Do you have an answer? We already have a law that says no state services without proper identification. What difference will this referendum that once was an initiative make? Zero. If you want to offer lip service and window dressing, there is a lot that can be done. Then we can thump our chests and say we dealt with immigration, but the problem is way more complicated and not easily solvable by cheap political pandering. Shall we help the countries in the southern hemisphere develop their own economies so their people will want to stay there? If so, that won’t happen over night. In the meantime if we want to build a fence, it is expensive both to build and to staff, and with record deficits in Washington and Bush talking about still more tax cuts, how do we pay for it? Do we work on international trade agreements? Do we start to give meaningful sanctions to employers who hire the undocumented? What’s your solution? The initiative that was thrown out would have done ZERO!!!! to stop undocumented immigration, and I challenge anyone to show how it would have helped.
So BB can promise to appoint supreme court judges who follow the constitution rather than the dictates of the hard left, anti-American, pro-Mexican racists who now dominate the court and vote to continue the illegal employment and virtual enslavement of illegals.
Republicans can point to the Democrats in the legislature and on the supreme court and their support for the racist enslavement of illegals as people who don’t believe in the rule of law but do believe in suppressing the incomes of under educated American citizens—the people they pretend to protect.
Simply put, Democrats are for corrupt government, and they’re incorrigible and can’t be trusted to enforce the laws or control crime. Indeed, they urge illegals to vote, and oppose any efforts to keep non-citizens from voting. Greedy, corrupt Democrats.
I don’t agree with our “more roads and prisons” governor on much, but I do think he’s right to try to overturn this decision by clearly activist judges.
Unchecked illegal immigration is unsustainable and it will detoriate our schools, social programs and our already declining middle class.
Let’s get this back on November’s ballot.
Skeptical BS with his allegations of no substance needs to stay off the kool-aide.
First thing, to question another american’s patriotism is lower than scum. “Im more of an American than you ’cause I hate everything that’s not, well, American…so speak American…and wear American flags….and ignore everything that’s not American…” Good one JackA$$.
Secondly, to call Dems racists is not a laughing matter and such terms should not be thrown around lightly. That’s a pretty heavy claim, especially since one of the Dems was threatened numerous times by the “patriotic minutemen,” with bricks and references to lynching. Hmmm.. and looking at the caucus diversity of each party, I would think twice about that one.
And finally, GREED! Yes, those Republican’s only take individual contributions…from Insurance Corporations in IL, New Jersey, or Oil Money from not only our own backyard by even Texas. Or how about all the Tobacco cash, Booze money, etc. etc.
Stop making allegations without some facts you SOB
Looks like quixote hasn’t grown much since yesterday. Keep trying, pal, I know you can do it.
Of COURSE it’s an election-year stunt, and nothing more. After all, John Andrews made it clear in his letter to “Fellow Republicans” (written on the “Bi-Partisan” initiative’s official letterhead) that the REAL purpose of the initiative in the first place is to get out the Republican vote: i.e., raw power. It’s just another hot-button issue tossed out there to gullible (and in some cases blatantly racist) voters entranced with the idea of quick fixes. Just like the gay marriage “crisis.”
Littwin is right on, as usual.
Even if it’s passed, the initiative won’t DO anything. Let’s get real: nobody’s going to be out checking the passports of state park users, kids visiting swimming pools and libraries, bus riders, prenatal care users, etc. (If the initiative passes, will police haul librarians off to jail if they dare to let a kid whose parents are illegals crack open a book? C’mon! Get real!)
Just ask DCN themselves: they can’t even figure out for themselves whether the amendment would actually ACCOMPLISH anything. On the one hand they claim it’s so incredibly vital, on the other hand they say it won’t harm kids of illegals, etc.
It’s a sad joke – just like Tancredo himself. Why do we Coloradans persist in making asses of ourselves with stuff like Amendment 2 and now this?
This initiative will have no more lasting effect than Peter Boyles’ nonsensical, inanely worded billboards.
Thank you walzeswithdogs! Evidently no-one remebers HB 03-1224 (http://www.leg.state.co.us/2003a/inetcbill.nsf/fsbillcont/0135EC67932E44C487256CAB00008F38?Open&file=1224_enr.pdf) that bans anyone who cannot present documents from recieving government services. Gov. B.O. is the one who hasn’t implemented it. Rep. Knoedler, a Repub., called for more money to be spent in investigating why that hasn’t happened. Or, have we forgotten HB 06-1306, calling for an audit of why 03-1224 hasn’t been implemented, from just a few weeks ago. It passed. Spend, spend, spend. Do nothing. Good plan.
Buenos noches senors y senoritas
No tengo mucho dinero.
Yo quiero su dinero.
Muchas gracias.
(Know what they call someone who only speaks one language?
American!)
Remember, Bush liked having The Star Spangled Banner performed in Spanish in 2000.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/02/AR2006050201594.html
All this talk attacking the Republicans (and “Aristotle” still a jerk, with no chance of change) and we’ve yet to see even ONE proposal by the liberals and democrats to solve the huge problem of illegal immigration.
So, if you ever get over the namecalling and Bush-bashing, just exactly what are you going to do about it?
P.S. “waltzeswithdogs” the fact that they are not “eligible” to come into the country has not stopped them, what makes you think that the fact that illegals are not “eligible” for welfare has stopped them from collecting benefits? They’re CRIMINALS, practiced in identity theft and use of false documents. How can you defend that? And why do you think we have to have Spanish translators in our welfare offices? Wake up and smell what you’re shoveling.
The ranting and raving about left, activist justices is entertaining considering Gov. Owens appointed six of the seven sitting on the bench
Funny, quixote complains about name-calling yet does he have a single post where he doesn’t call someone a name?
History will judge this nonsense. All these initiatives have one goal in mind: Limit the flow of mexicans, who are hispanics. Yes, they will flock here by the masses, for better life, better opportunities. Nothing unethical about, illegal yes, immoral no! The law seems to work against those who want to be here legally, rewards those who have the privelege of just being born or be related to somebody who was born here. Talk about unfair.
Aside that, You and your ilk harass even the legal ones by making it harder to vote by requiring insane amount of identification, which the country hasn’t required since its inception. Then you try to supress their culture by attacking their lingua Franca, Spanish. Fact is This country was multilingual since its inception. The southwest has been populated by hispanics before “manifest destiny” took hold of it.
Bush seems to have commonsense in realizing how to deal with the so called problem. Senate Bill should at least somewhat regulate the flow, House Bill is simply the expression of typical macho american attitude, I bet Toby Keith will sing a “boot up your brown ass” any day now.
Republican strategists need to find a wedge issue to keep hold of the congress. Iraq War is unpopular, so you can’t demonize muslim terrorists to win election, people don’t care for gays or their marriage, with the pressing issue of inflation and rising gas costs, so you can somehow get your nativists base noised up, that should cause enough of a concern among the general population to project immigration issue as a bigger problem than it really it.
Couple that with the issue of national security, you really have a winner!! Divide and conquer always works.
quixote, you called people bad names. Now I have to call you a name.
You’re a poopy head.
Bienvenidos:
La primera preguenta es:
Que is mas macho? Pinapple o Knife?
Si, correcto.
Pineapple is mas macho que knife.
GOP:
Grasping at issues: muy expensive
Sticking with the platform: priceless
I am the grandson of “illegal immigrants” on my mother’s side but my family has never been a burden on this society. Even so, I do not support anybody free riding off the taxpayer’s money no matter if they’re black, brown, yellow or white, citizen or non-citizen but especially if they have not contributed to the pot. That includes giving in-state tuition rates to non-residents no matter if they’re from another state, Canada or Mexico. The idea behind in-state rates is that you and/or your family have been here paying taxes so you should get a discount relative to those that have not been living here and paying taxes.
Here’s what the Feds should do (or the Dems should advocate for)
1- Increase border security – needs to be done and can’t move forward without it.
2- Increase the number of ICE agents for enforcement AND visa processing. Illegals will continue to come if they’re going to starve in their own country in the two years it takes to process visas in this country.
3- Enforce existing laws – including large fines on employers, better monitoring of services
4- Give amnesty to the illegal immigrants currently in the US
5- Increase drastically the amount of funding for adult education, including funding for ESL programs, civics classes and citizenship classes.
Regarding the illegals don’t pay taxes argument. Everyone pays taxes, some less than others. Sales tax, use taxes, gas taxes, social security taxes (off of fake ID’s where the money goes to the SS fund), mill levy, city tax if you live/work in Denver, …
There are white folk, black folk AND brown folk who live off the system paying the same amount of taxes that illegals pay.
The tax arguement doesn’t fly.
“Turnabout is fair play, “aristotle.”
And you’re still a jerk.
As is “nemesis.”
“paco,” how is asking someone to provide ONE government-issued identification card “an insane amount of identification?” Where do you come up with this nonsense?
Car 31,
You almost had me up until the point where you said we should reward illegals with amnesty and then put in additional funds for them to learn our language.
If you want an amnesty, then at least make them pay to learn the language themselves, otherwise it is just another free ride.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Have the ones who can pay fork over the money. Good. The ones who can’t still need to learn, or they won’t.
I’m happy that the ballot issue involving a year of separate study for limited English learners in our schools could be on the ballot – that’s a solution that does something. But if we don’t teach the kids and the parents about the rules and language we want them to learn, they won’t and we’ll keep having conversations about Mexican flags and English as the ‘official’ language.
“Turnabout is fair play.” So why, quixote, are you being so whiny? I’m just giving you a teeny tiny taste of what you dish out by the pound. If you can’t take it, try being more civil. Really, you’ll find it works wonders.
Quixote–keep tilting at windmills Don…been reading your threads…you are not welcome in my republican party you hypocritical bigot!
In my republican party we talk about individual responsibility — no matter how you cut it Ed Jones paid his debt and has served the citizens, especially the children of El Paso County and Senate District 11 while you were hiding behind some fictional name and a blog! You clearly are a frustrated Tim Pleasant supporter — it has been 4 years — get over it already!
Well, well, it seems that Token Jones has joined in, or perhaps it’s really Frogface Gardner?
But, gee, I thought that Ed Token Jones was so perfect that he didn’t have any debt to pay (oh, wait, he’s still paying back the insurance company)? After all, he didn’t hide behind his dead wife’s skirts, now did he (wooops, he did, multiple times) and he didn’t break the law, did he (ooops, again, he did multiple times) and didn’t sit in a bar watching a cocaine deal go down and failing to report it (oooops, once again, he did)?
Yeah, he’s just SOOOOOOOOO perfect that his feces simply lacks displeasing odor.
Sure. Right. Tell us some more fables about this angel in human guise serving the citizens so well by sitting in bars during the work day drinking himself into a stupor.
And, by the way, I didn’t support Tim Pleasant, because he’s a lawyer, and I just couldn’t bring myself to support putting another lawyer into the legislature.
But it doesn’t take a Tim Pleasant supporter to know that Ed Jones is an incompetent who should never have been nominated for office, much less elected.
I sure know who I’m supporting this year, because even a democrat would be better than Ed Jones.
Actually quioxte, wouldn’t voting for a vacancy be the same as voting for a Dem, without having to admit that one supported a Dem? Then again, when it comes to some politicians, the public would be better served by a vacancy. Less liklihood of spending too much money, and introducing idiotic legislation that serves no real purpose or function.
Can someone explain to me why Trailhead is running all of the ads for Ed Jones? Good grief. Makes him sound as though God died and put him in charge of public education. One of the parts of the commercial say “Ed Sponsored a Teachers Bill of Rights.”
Bet it didn’t include such good things as:
1) The teacher has a right not to have idiots for students.
2) the teacher has a right to not have to be pestered by elected officials.
3) The teacher has a right to do their jobs without being pestered by idiotic students and elected officials.
4) Teachers have a right to not be harassed by Ed Jones and Steve Schuck.
Hey quixote–if you didn’t support Jones or Pleasant, then you must have supported the Democrat–Marino at the time. Oh wait, I’m beginning to think you are a Democrat. There’s no other explanation. Otherwise you would know that on the first day of the legislature the majority party elects the leadership and committee chairs–after that, it is pretty much downhill if your party is the minority. Like that no smoking bill? Must be a Dem;Like that Ref C? Must be a Dem; Come clean quixote–if you aren’t a Dem, then tell us who your ideal El Paso County Republican is? Mark Cloer maybe?
No, actually, I just voted with my feet, and walked away from the polls without casting a vote in that election.
Besides, Marino didn’t answer some serious questions about his past, like where he’d disappeared to for about two years. I just didn’t see him as reliable.
It is entirely possible that I misjudged what I should have done that election year…..but never mind, the party apparatchiks weren’t going to let Pleasant win, never mind that he had just slightly under 60% in the assembly. They just HAD to have their token……practically all the party officers and elected officials worked against him, despite the obvious delegate preference.
And to show just how hypocritical most of them are, this year that same crowd (mostly) signed that letter to Holtzman telling him to drop out to avoid a contentious primary.
And, no, I didn’t vote for Ref. C.
And at this point, I figure about the only Republican of any influence in El Paso County who is decent at all is Sallie Clark, the commissioner. Maybe the Assessor, John Bass, too, as I think about it.
But the party as a whole is in sad, sad shape. Any party who would offer up Bob Gardner, who actually worked AGAINST Republican candidates running for city council, as a candidate to replace Keith King, has just plain lost it.
Quixote–I can’t believe what you have said. The only Republican of any influence who matters at all is Douglas Bruce. Sallie Clark tries to stop him from speaking because he offends her prom queen sensibilities. By the way, remember when Sallie was championing collective bargaining for the police and firefighters unions?
(I do agree that John Bass is a good guy and a good elected official though.)
And refresh my memory–what Republican did Gardner work against in city council races? Everyone of them but Skorman claimed to be a Republican. So, it’s hard to be involved and not work against a Republican–kind of like the 5th CD.
Gardner went around with an “unwanted poster” against Clark, Radford, Pleasant and…..I forget the other guy…..while they were all running for city council.
(Please, spare me the Brucite campaign rhetoric).
But you know, I went for a little run just now (still like 75 degrees out there, damn it’s hot) and as I was running, I got to thinking about that snide remark made by “Real Republican” about “You clearly are a frustrated Tim Pleasant supporter — it has been 4 years — get over it already!”
Now, like I said, I’m not, for the reasons I stated above.
But I got to thinking – why would there still be any such frustrated persons after four years?
So, ok, let’s try to answer the question. Maybe because after the primary was over, and Ed Jones won, he sent out a letter calling Pleasant’s supporters “racists?” (Yes, I know that Jones denied it, but I saw one of the letters – it was on his campaign letterhead). I’d sure resent that for a long time if it had been me.
Or maybe they didn’t like the fact that pretty much the entire party “leadership” got behind Jones when Pleasant was the clear choice of the party delegates?
Or maybe they didn’t like the various truths about Jones that I’ve mentioned here before – that he had multiple criminal convictions for completely irresponsible behavior that he excused away behind a sick wife, didn’t pay his taxes, sat around in bars during the work day, lied about his education, and generally acted like he was above the law.
So I wouldn’t have thought that there would still be disgruntled Pleasant supporters around, but, you know, I may be wrong about that. They were treated like crap by the party, and I can see where they would reasonably bear a pretty big grudge over it. I know that Pleasant dropped out of the party and has said he’ll never run for office again. Hard to blame him, when you think about it.
And, as I think about it, in that same period of time there was another candidate in Bill Sinclair’s district who would have attracted the same kind of people who supported Pleasant, but he got treated real unfairly by the party, too. What was his name? I’m blanking on it.
I lost a lot of respect for Sinclair over that one, and so did a lot of people I know. A bunch of them just dropped out of party activities altogether.
quixote–if the clear choice of the delegates is who we ought to get behind, are you a Beauprez supporter along with me? he was the clear choice of the delegates
anonymous—I was wondering who you were; I am narrowing it down to someone who is a bitter school teacher; who else would complain about Steve Schuck and having to teach “idiotic students” in a single breath?
quixote–you’re upset with Gardner for saying that a trial lawyer and two RINOs are unwanted; I may have problems with Gardner (not a true conservative) but Radford and Clark actively supported the public employee unions while on council; Radford, with Prom Queen Sallie, opposed Douglas Bruce–they wanted a lock on county commission so that they could turn everything over to the police and firefighters unions; fortunately Douglas won and now Sallie tries to silence him and Margaret is supporting Liberal Rivera for 5th CD. And unPleasant was and still is a whiny trial lawyer–shouldn’t hold office like you say–course his middle initial “L” stands for Loser–he whined and quit instead of staying to fight for true conservative values.
So you’re upset that someone said these three were unwanted? Are you sure you are a Republican and not a Dem stirring up dissension on the site?
My, my, there seems to be a great deal of bitterness in many parts of the Republican Party of El Paso County.
That does not say much for them all, does it?
It appears that the Doug Bruce wing hates everyone else, and everyone else hates the Doug Bruce wing, and they all pretend to be conservatives.
How do they manage to win any elections at all?
So-crates: They hate liberals more.
Looks like Colorado Alliance for a Secure America is the only game in town at this point, on immigration for this election season. The Dems won’t go along, they’ll hide behind the robes. They already killed a bunch of good bills.
Here’s a press release I just got on email:
Press Release: CASA Urges Governor Owens to Hold Special Session for Immigration Reform
Group Vows to Hold Politicians Accountable
——————————————————————————–
For Immediate Release – June 16, 2006 – Go to http://www.CASAPAC.com to Join!
DENVER – Colorado Alliance for a Secure America today called for Governor Bill Owens to convene a special legislative session on illegal immigration. The group is the state’s only organization dedicated to holding candidates for public office accountable for their stance on immigration.
“With the rejection of the ballot initiative by an activist court, we issue the legislature an ultimatum: Reform immigration policy, or the people will reform the membership of the legislature,” declared Chrisann Reese, Executive Director of CASA.
“The majority of Coloradans are outraged about illegal immigration, and their will cannot be subverted by a few activist judges.”
During the legislative session that just ended, Republicans sponsored all of at least eleven bills that dealt specifically with illegal immigration. However, some Republicans running for election this year voted against important reforms, Reese said.
“While Democrats talk about illegal immigration, they did not sponsor a single bill dealing with the issue specifically.” continued Reese, who added, “Worse yet, seven of the eleven immigration bills sponsored were killed in committee by Democrats, on a party-line vote.”
This year, immigration-related bills killed in committee included one requiring proof of citizenship to vote, and another requiring all Colorado employers to utilize the internet-based Social Security Pilot Program, which instantaneously verifies work eligibility via an applicant’s social security number.
During a radio interview, Reese followed up, saying “Many good immigration reform bills were killed in committee this year – then the courts denied the people their voice via the ballot. If the special session fails to motivate change, CASA’s only choice will be to expose the records of politicians who stand in the way of common-sense immigration reform.”
For Further Information Contact: Chrisann Reese 970-336-1965
###
Read more about CASA’s 2006 CO Legislative Review at http://www.casapac.com/news.html
Wow, “windmill” you sound just like this guy who used to call up all the talk radio stations in town and repeat just what you said, almost word for word.
His name was Ron Coleman, but they always just called him “Gunron” since he was absolutely fixated on guns and the 2nd Amendment, and he’d try to turn every topic the show hosts would want to talk about to guns.
I haven’t heard him an awhile, though. I thought maybe he’d gotten sued for slander by someone and he’d decided to shut up. Or maybe they just got tired of him and kicked him off the radio.
Anyway, he was always saying just those same things you did.
So you’re saying that a Republican party officer should work against fellow Republicans because they’re moderates and he’s conservative, or vice versa? Should the party officers pick and choose who they support and who they oppose within their own party?
Wow. What a position to take.
No, I’m not a dem, but, heck, the dems obviously don’t need to stir up dissension in the EPC Rep. Party. The party members, especially the Brucites, are already doing more than enough of that.
Hating liberals more does not necessarily win elections.
quixote – you’re right, that guy does sound like Gunron. I wonder if it’s him?????