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“People can choose between the sweet lie or the bitter truth. I say the bitter truth, but many people don’t want to hear it.”

–Avigdor Lieberman

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  1. RepealAndReplace says:

    She's not an idiot, but perhaps a bit of a hypocrite…..  

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-2020.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    It's a good sign. She's prepared to do what she needs to do to get elected.

  2. Diogenesdemar says:

    . . . Someone must have finally convinced Ttump that Allbahamia isn’t on his magic map???

    Dozens of weary Bahamas residents hoping to seek refuge in the United States from the storm-ravaged islands were kicked off a ferry headed for Florida on Sunday night, after an announcement on board that anyone without a valid visa would “have problems” at the American port of entry.

    Videos of the incident spread rapidly on social media, with frustrated passengers lamenting that standard protocols — which in the past had allowed Bahamians to enter the United States without a visa as long as they had a passport and documentation of a clean criminal record — were not being honored.

    Dozens of Bahamas Hurricane Survivors Kicked Off Ferry Bound for U.S.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/us/bahamas-hurricane-immigration-visas-ship.html

    . . . there’s one constant that can always be counted on from this Misadministration; wherever they might aimlessly wander at any given moment, they’ll always quickly return to Ttump’s one immutable core value of hating on some brown folks.

    This is not America . . .

  3. itlduso says:

    Bernie's in town today.  Biden is showing up at the end of the month.  Yet, I am not interested in attending either event.  About the only candidate that I would want to see is Mayor Pete who has a snowball's chance of winning the nomination. 

    Which Dem candidate out there would you want to see if they held an event in CO?

     

  4. harrydobyharrydoby says:

    Stephen Miller/Donald Trump.  Dominic Cummings/Boris Johnson. The personalities and tactics are strikingly (and dangerously) similar.

    The Remainer, a powerful, confident and well-connected man, went first. He presented a baffling, limited, sterile case: Britain had a thriving and critical car industry, which would see its profit margins wiped out by tariffs if Brexit went ahead.

    Mr. Cummings, a spindly, socially diffident, unsmiling figure, spoke next. He was emphatic, evocative. He talked about pride, independence, nationhood, sovereignty, dignity, making our own laws and decisions.

    I detested Brexit and all it stood for, but I was captivated. Mr. Cummings was making it sound like the noble path. I came home anxious and uneasy. Remainers were way ahead in the polls, but would they come up with something effective to combat the deep emotions that Mr. Cummings’s campaign was tapping into?

    They never did. Mr. Cummings went on to drive Brexit, pushing it to a narrow victory against huge internal opposition, by focusing aggressively on what worked. He outwitted Britain’s establishment by combining a brilliantly simple slogan — “Take back control” — with shameless lies about the European Union, the National Health Service and the danger that Turks could soon emigrate to Britain en masse, all backed up by a huge and hidden microtargeted social media campaign. Every element was designed to have a powerful, visceral appeal.

    Mr. Cummings proved that stories and lies, allied to strategic cunning, conviction, secrecy, ruthlessness and upending convention, could be much more appealing than reason and fact. Years of studying and writing obsessively about the art of strategy, the failings of most institutions and the success of revolutionary thinkers like Otto von Bismarck had paid off.

    Now this single-minded insurgent is the most powerful individual in the British government, vaulted into Downing Street as Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s chief strategic adviser. His job is to deliver Brexit and win Mr. Johnson five years more in office, making up for the prime minister’s deficiencies as a lazy, inattentive bumbler. Mr. Cummings is deploying all the techniques that have worked for him before: disruption, deception, intimidation and an implacable willingness to alienate people.

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      There is one really huge difference. It is how the legislative branch in each country responded.

      In Britain, there were a couple of dozen principled Conservative Party members who stood up to BoJo (as he is affectionately called) and voted to block Cummings' No Deal Brexit, then scuttled BoJo's plan for an early election in October.

      Can you imagine Moscow Mitch doing anything like that to Trump and Bannon?

      • There are a lot of reasons for that. Boris Johnson isn't receiving more pushback from his party b/c they're more principled than the Republicans (they aren't), but because they're in vastly different political situations. The Brits are currently having a major political meltdown which started long before Johnson took over. There'd been mass defections from both major parties over the past few years (the most people leaving their party in a single term of Parliament in over a century) and widespread political turmoil that might lead to Northern Ireland and Scotland leaving.

        I imagine McConnell would give Trump more pushback if there was a legitimate fear that every state west of the Mississippi would secede b/c of a political crisis Trump was accelerating.

        • RepealAndReplace says:

          Good point about the British party meltdown. In the EU elections – which use proportional representation, the Conservatives and Labour performed terribly compared to Brexit, Lib Dems and Greens.

  5. harrydobyharrydoby says:

    Must see this movie coming soon to the Mayan! https://www.landmarktheatres.com/denver/mayan-theatre/film-info/raise-hell-the-life-times-of-molly-ivins

    The only thing disappointing about “Raise Hell” was the audience itself, which was mostly gray-haired, some propped up with canes and walkers. The air was so thick with liberal nostalgia I thought for a fleeting moment that Ann Richards was up for re-election.

    Because it would be a terrible shame for younger viewers — especially young progressives — to miss the movie, what with all the current talk of Texas maybe-kinda-sorta turning blue and a (hopefully) re-energized state Democratic Party. Just because Ms. Ivins has been gone for a dozen years doesn’t mean her words and deeds don’t still apply.

    Some of her wisdom from 40 years ago:

    It’s almost unnerving to see how prescient Ms. Ivins was: In the 1970s and ’80s she was already writing about threats to free speech and, even with legal abortion, the ricketiness of women’s reproductive rights. She foresaw the relentless expansion of mass incarceration and the rise of inequality and growing social, economic and racial divisions. (“Polarizing people is a good way to win an election and a good way to wreck a country,” she wrote.) The issues unraveling the edges of American democracy, she often said, weren’t left to right, but top to bottom. (To drive home the point, she once called George W. Bush “a wholly owned subsidiary of corporate America.”)

  6. Diogenesdemar says:

    Sméagol !??! . . . 

    Commerce Chief Threatened Firings at NOAA After Trump’s Dorian Tweets, Sources Say

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/climate/hurricane-dorian-trump-tweet.html

    . . . shouldsa’ knowns!

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