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Well gee, this was a helpful post. Exactly for whom is he going to be raising money?
I received a blast email from Pat Waak, saying pretty much all that this posting says.
“Save the Date. Details to follow.”
If it’s coming from the State Party, chances are it’s to raise money for the State Party…
RODHAM CLINTON/SALAZAR ’08 campaign………
It’s for the Columbine Memorial.
While he’s here, he will be doing a fundraiser for the Colorado Democratic Party. We’re still working on finalizing all of the details, but we thought it would be a good idea for folks to know that the event was coming up, so people could start to plan to be there…
I’m sending my 16- and 17-year old daughters to away camp.
And hiding the silverware.
It doesn’t get any better than President Bill Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is the going rate to shake Bill’s hand these days?
>It doesn’t get any better than President Bill Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess that depends on what the definition of “it” is.
If by “it” you mean philandering, lying and perjury, corruption and general incompetence, I would have to agree. There is no one who does those things better than Bill Clinton.
Socrates —
You must be talking about our current Bush Administration. Oops, you’re right, they are much much worse than that. President Bush is worthliess to your Party now for any fund raising efforts.
As far as what happened in reference to Lewinski, I thought you GOP whackos had got past the fact that he lied to cover-up a romantic affair, which more than 60 percent of the married couples in the country have done — cheated for another loving relationship. Not everyone is perfect … and I suggest rather than attempting to dig up the mud on President Clinton, we should concentrate on what YOUR ADMINISTRATION has and has not done. AND DON”T EVEN GET ME STARTED !!!
uh-huh… as opposed to the lying, killing, crushing debt, waste, and just all around incompetence and ignorance promulgated by our present Great Leader…
I think you touched a raw nerve there, Socrates.
That’s what this state needs, a visit from a two timing, lying, cheating, doofus.
Anybody thinks he is so great should go to his home town and ask the locals what they think of him…..then duck…
Bush lied, thousands have died…..No one died because Clinton lied!
Naw, we just had American soldiers killed and their bodies dragged through streets in Somalia because Clinton refused to give them the armor assets they needed.
And we just had 9/11 because Clinton turned down the opportunity to take Bin Laden into US custody.
So try and change the subject with all the bumper sticker BS you want, it doesn’t change the fact that Clinton was an incompetent president, committed perjury while in office, probably raped a woman before becoming president, was impeached (though unfortunately not convicted) and disbarred.
That anyone would try to defend that record is a real good indicator that they have willfully blinded themselves to the truth in a desperate attempt to ignore the problems in their own political party leadership.
Bush can’t even get close to the accomplishments of Bill Clinton. Those who can’t accept this are doomed to a life with their heads where the sun don’t shine.
CREATING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND SECURITY FOR ALL AMERICANS
Signed the Economic Package, August 10, 1993.
The economy created 7.7 million new jobs in the first 34 months of this Administration.
Passed the largest deficit-cutting plan in history — saving more than $1 trillion over seven years.
On track for three consecutive years of deficit reduction — for the first time since Harry Truman.
Cut federal spending by $255 billion over 5 years.
Made new tax cuts available to over 90% of small businesses.
Unemployment fell from 7% when President Clinton took office to 5.6%
Lowest combined rate of unemployment and inflation since 1968.
1994 real GDP growth was the highest in a decade.
Proposed a plan to balance the budget while protecting critical investments in education.
PROMOTING A FUTURE OF OPPORTUNITY
Increased Head Start funding by almost $760 million.
Passed the Student Loan Reform Act, August 10, 1993.
Implemented the National Service Act, September 21, 1993.
Signed the Goals 2000: Educate America Act, March 31, 1994.
Enacted the School-to-Work Opportunities Act on May 4, 1994.
Signed the Elementary and Secondary Education Act Reauthorization
MAKING COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS SAFE FOR OUR FAMILIES
Passed the toughest most comprehensive Crime Bill ever, September 13, 1994
Signed the Brady Bill, November 30, 1993.
Enacted the Assault Weapons Ban as part of the Crime Bill.
Put 100,000 new police on the street — nearly 31,000 more officers have been funded.
Signed the Violence Against Women Act as part of the Crime Bill.
Signed the Safe and Drug-Free Schools Act, October 20, 1994.
Issued Presidential Directive enforcing a “Zero Tolerance” gun policy in schools, October 22, 1994
Submitted and fought for the most comprehensive Drug Control budget ever.
MAKING GOVERNMENT WORK BETTER AND COST LESS
Already cut the Federal Workforce by over 200,000 — on the way to lowest level in 30 years.
Abolishing 16,000 pages of obsolete regulations and rewriting 31,000 more pages.
$58 billion in savings are already in the bank. $46 billion in savings are still to come.
Over 180 new recommendations will save $70 billion. Eliminated 284 federal advisory committees.
Developed government-wide Customer Service Standards for the first time.
Appointed the most diverse Cabinet and Administration in history.
Signed the most important federal procurement act ever to streamline government purchasing.
Reformed Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation to protect 8.5 million pensions.
Signed the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act, March 22, 1995.
CREATING OPPORTUNITY IN AMERICA’S COMMUNITIES
Created nine Economic Empowerment Zones and 95 Enterprise Communities.
Signed the Community Development Banking Financial Institutions Act, Sept. 23, 1994.
Signed the Interstate Banking Bill, September 29, 1994.
Instituted the Defense Reinvestment and Conversion Initiative.
Reformed the Community Reinvestment Act to focus on performance rather than paperwork.
Made the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit and Mortgage Revenue Bond Program permanent.
PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR PUBLIC HEALTH
Issued a new executive order to require polluters to disclose information to the public and expanded the public’s right-to-know about toxic releases.
Launched “reinventing environmental regulation” to cut red tape and better protect public health.
Issued a new standard to cut pollution from chemical plants 90% by 1997.
Signed executive orders to increase recycling and cut pollution in federal buildings.
Signed the California Desert Protection Act, October 31, 1994.
Issued a new standard to cut pollution from incinerators 95%.
Introduced comprehensive Safe Drinking Water and Superfund reforms.
Developed a plan to restore Florida’s Everglades.
Ended decades of conflict over the allocation of California Bay-Delta water.
PROMOTING HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS
Passed the Family and Medical Leave Act, February 5, 1993.
Signed a comprehensive Child Immunization Plan.
Revoked the Reagan/Bush restrictions on abortion counseling (“the gag rule”), abortions in military hospitals, “Mexico City” policy and RU-486 imports.
Increased Ryan White CARE Act funding for outpatient AIDS care over 100% in first 3 budgets.
Put the Women, Infants and Children Program (WIC) on a full-funding path.
Increased funding 65% for breast cancer research.
As part of the balanced budget plan, introduced health care reform initiative which strengthens Medicare and expands coverage.
Proposed a $1.3 billion increase in veterans’ benefits — of which $1 billion will be directed to the VA health system to provide treatment for 43,000 more veterans.
PRESERVING AND STRENGTHENING OUR FAMILIES
Expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit providing tax relief for 15 million working families.
Introduced the Work and Responsibility Act – comprehensive welfare reform.
Passed the Family Support and Preservation Program.
Passed major funding increases for homeless programs in both Houses.
Approved 35 waivers to states permitting comprehensive welfare reform demonstrations.
Collected a record $10 billion in child support through enforcement in 1994.
Signed the Social Security Independent Agency Act.
Increased adoption and foster care funds by almost $600 million from 1994-1995.
RESTORING TRUST IN OUR GOVERNMENT
Signed the National Voter Registration Act (Motor-Voter), May 20, 1993.
Eliminated the tax deduction for lobbying expenses.
Imposed strictest Administration ethics guidelines in history.
Barred top officials from becoming foreign lobbyists after leaving government.
Signed the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995 — the first overhaul of lobbying rules in 50 years.
Fought for passage of and signed into law the Congressional Accountability Act, January 22, 1995.
Fought for passage of line-item veto and campaign finance.
OPENING FOREIGN MARKETS TO AMERICAN GOODS
Signed NAFTA into law, December 8, 1993, which will create hundreds of thousands of US jobs.
Signed GATT into law, December 8, 1994, the largest trade agreement in history.
Secured free-trade commitments from Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) leaders.
Hosted Summit of the Americas and agreed to negotiate a Free Trade Area of the Americas by 2005
Developed National Export Strategy, eliminating outdated export controls on $35 billion in exports.
Opened 15 different market sectors in Japan ranging from telecommunications procurement to rice.
Reached historic agreement with Japan on opening its automotive market to billions of dollars worth of American cars and parts.
Reached agreement with China to provide intellectual property rights protection for billions of dollars worth of U.S. exports.
AMERICAN LEADERSHIP
Helped Israel and Jordan achieve an historic peace treaty and Israel and the Palestinians fulfill their historic accord.
Contributed to an historic cease-fire in Northern Ireland.
Restored democratically elected Haitian President Aristide to power; will continue to stop the flow of refugees to Florida.
Undertook, with NATO allies and UN, military and diplomatic actions to alleviate the suffering and lead the effort to broker a comprehensive peace agreement in Bosnia.
Russian nuclear missiles are no longer pointed at our cities.
Persuaded Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan to give up the nuclear weapons left on their land when the Soviet Union collapsed.
Agreed to framework with North Korea that freezes and leads to the eventual elimination of North Korea s dangerous nuclear program.
Led the international effort to secure the indefinite and unconditional extension of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) further reducing the danger of nuclear proliferation around the world.
Working to prevent nuclear weapons from ending up in the hands of terrorists or international criminals.
Air-lifted more than half a ton of vulnerable, highly enriched uranium, enough to make dozens of nuclear bombs, from Kazakhstan to safe storage.
Assisted South Africa’s transition to democracy, providing support for elections and development.
Bringing the nations of Europe closer:
— Modernizing NATO;
— Working with Russia;
— Reforming the former Soviet Union economies
Waging a tough counter-terrorism campaign with stronger laws and more training for law enforcement.
Maintaining strong sanctions against states that sponsor terrorism and defy the rule of rule, such as Iran, Iraq, Libya and Sudan.
Sent our planes, ships and troops to turn back a new Iraqi threat to the Persian Gulf.
JustDolt, your comment was hilarious.
8 years of peace, prosperity, respect around the world, constructive involvement in negotiating peace in the Middle East and No. Ireland, a balanced budget, at least an attempt to fix health care (scuttled by Phil Gramm and his ilk), reasonable oil prices, and this country was not the international pariah which it is today. Clinton was acquitted in part because a number of Republican Senators (most of whom came from Blue States) voted to acquit him. I can’t wait for the restoration of the Clintons to the White House in ’08. It’s gonna take both Hillary and Bill to clean up the mess they’re gonna find……..
P.S. As for scandals, Ken Starr, after spending $40 million couldn’t find anything with which to charge either Clinton in Whitewater so he had to use a fat, cheesy intern and a soiled blue dress as a fig leaf behind which to hide. Doesn’t compare to Kenny Boy Lay and Scooter Libby……..
As a freelance writer on the side, let me give you a quick tip, Sir. I agree with everything you cut/pasted above, at least from what I speed-read through. Problem is, it’s too long for me to bother to read.
Try using a link like the rest of us or better yet, try keeping it under 200 words, like most newspapers require for letters to the editor.
Brevity is the soul of wit.
Recovering Republicrat, what is it like to live in your world? I picture it as somewhere where you get to be weightless and in a lovely la la land with no worries about ever having to think or be held accountable for anything because everyone knows that there is no capacity for intelligent thought. Sounds nice, but I think I’ll stay in the real world where there are people with real ability to see the truth, be logical and not think with their heads implanted in their overly emotional, but oh so ‘feeling’ butts.
Wake up and join the real world. Eight years of peace and prosperity under Billy Boy – what wanna be legalized brand are you smoking?
There will not be peace in this world until the Muslims decide that we are no longer the infidels who need to be wiped clean from the planet. No thanks to ‘ol Billy Boy there other than how he allowed that pot to stew until it boiled over.
Prosperity does not come from robbing the rich to distribute to the lazy poor. Work for it like everyone else or shut up and go live under an unfunded bridge. You’re not my problem unless I decide to help you out. Until then, keep your democrat, nasty, liberal hands out of my pocket. There’s not that much in there for me and my family and if you want to take it, you should have to go through Smith and Wesson to get it.
Respect around the world for this great country is as overwhelming now as it has ever been and none of that comes as a result of Billy Boy getting caught with his pants down literally and figuratively. This is the place to be, my ignorant friend. This is, unless you liberals gain too much more ground, America. The place of true and God given freedom. The place where people can work as hard or as little as they want and be that which they desire with no one telling them where to go or what to believe. People around the world crave this kind of freedom and the kind of balls that true red blooded Americans have. You, and those like you, who would like to castrate American courage, innovation, initiative, common sense and freedom are an abomonation to the flag and to all those who fought to give us freedom like the world has never seen.
Go live in your la la land – a nice little socialist country far far away – and leave the rest of us to participate in the greatest republic this world has ever known. We’re tired of you trying to screw it all up for the rest of us. Take Billy Boy with you and he could reign as president/king for all time. You would never have to have any leader other than Clinton, but not here, not ever.
Hey Sir Robin,
A little long don’t you think? Are you trying to compensate for something?
I only scanned it cause it’s just too much garbage, but how about reducing government? Show me someone who cuts government programs instead of creating new ones to wave in everyone’s face and then you’ll have shown me a leader.
We are all suffering today because of Clinton’s time in office. This has nothing to do with his moral failure, and everything to do with his bad policy decisions (which includes ‘doing nothing’.
The recession and economic downturn that liberals like to blame on Bush started in March 2000. About the only thing Clinton did that related to fiscal responsibility was to tend to fundraisers for his LIE-brary and to help his wife get elected in New York.
Another Clinton obsession – all dealing with building his own legacy – was to throw together a quick try at a peace agreement in the Middle East. We’ve already seen the results of that failed fiasco. (Remember how he even included CHELSEA in on the discussions at Camp David? Yeah, now that was some serious diplomacy going on).
In the meantime, Alan Greenspan ensured that the U.S. money supply stayed tight. This was poor fiscal policy because at the same time, manufacturing orders were slowing to a crawl. Clinton was absent to provide political pressure on the Fed to cut rates. The result of this Clinton failure was compounded when low earnings reports hit Wall Street in December 2000.
The bad economic news was made even worse due to another Clinton failure: no energy policy. This meant that OPEC nations could cut oil production (and they did).
Energy prices took off like a rocket, which cut far enough into corporate profits to the extent that no further exploration was economicially feasible for them. Take-home pay for energy-industry workers. You folks that crow about “Kenny Boy Lay” would do well do remember that the corruption that took place at Enron was done while Clinton was president.
Clinton’s further failed (or ‘do nothing’) policy was the lack of providing an energy policy that included new oil refineries in the USA. The USA’s dependence on foreign oil was at an all-time high but Clinton failed in even attempting to encourage conservation.
Anyone else remember when California ran out of power? Yep, the liberals would have you believe that it was the Bush-Cheney-Big-Oil crowd that caused it, but the fact is that companies in California simply couldn’t afford to pay the higher rates that EVERYONE ELSE was also paying, due to the tightened supply (which, if you’ve passed even a basic economics course, you’ll know that prices drive upward in tight supply conditions). Again, a failure on Clinton’s watch due to a lack of an energy policy.
Sure, Clinton signed a number of environmental orders in the 11th hour of his presidency, which was mostly aboutpandering to the greens, and his own legacy-building. (Why weren’t those environmental orders signed years before?)
Another failure of the Clinton years is in his pathetic attempt at education policy. Yep, sure enough, Clinton’s budgets called for huge increases in federal spending, but his policy made no attempt at ensuring that all the money that was spent (read that: YOUR TAX DOLLARS) were based on performance. That increase in spending made him the darling of the teacher’s unions (along with Hillary!, who also was spoken of in such glowing terms by the NEA and the like) but it did nothing for kids who needed to see the monies actually reach the classroom. Learning standards never improved, and as a consequence, neither did learning.
That’s the Clinton legacy. And hey – I haven’t even mentioned:
Travelgate
900+ FBI files (who hired Craig Livingstone? anyone know?)
Chinagate
Tainted Prison Blood
Use of IRS to intimidate political enemies
Waco, Texas massacre
Presidential pardons
Elian Gonzalez
Terrorist attacks on WTC 1993
Mogadishu
“Accidental” bombing of Chinese embassy in Belgrade (and no Congressional approval)
Bombing a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory
Claims of genocide in Bosnia
Attacking Bosnia without Congressional approval
Selling visits to the White House for campaign cash
(Johnny Chung, Charlie Trie, et. al)
Yeah, those were the days, huh?
Silver Bullet —
Actually, when you start comparing apples to apples, the Rupublicans likely spend much more waste in Fed dollars than does the democrats. Military spending accounts for a great portion of our budget. A fraction of government spending has gone to programs that assist people during the past 6 years. All the Republicans want to do is conquer with money spent on bombs and global domination. I have NEVER seen a program from the Republicans that was truly an investment into people, that did not include coming up with some plan of controling their minds and limiting their right to an education … so that they could continue controling them!
Thank you Sir Robin for that list … but it is way too short, you didn’ even mention the fact that Clinton actually cared about people. An important distiction between Democrats and Republicans (the hypocracy of Compassionate Conservatives just doesn’t cut the mustard anymore!)
GO SIR ROBIN !!!
Parrot, keep it up. Good laughs all the way ’round.
Keep posting, buddy. It’s hilarious.
R2: “I think I’ll stay in the real world where there are people with real ability to see the truth, be logical”….
Logical you say? We have a president now who doesn’t comprehend evolution or embyonic stem cell biology but actually buys into the fairy tale which Pat Robertson reads to him about Genesis.
People w/ real ability? Like Michael Brown at FEMA during Katrina? Or the hapless Harriet Miers? Or everybody’s favorite: Dick Cheney who’s still looking for those pesky WMD’s in Iraq when it turns out they in Iran.
And as for prosperity and from where it comes…..it sure as hell doesn’t come from running up the national VISA/Mastercard account and saddling the next two or three generations of Americans w/ paying off the tax cuts we had to give to Kenny Boy Lay, Jeff Skillern, and the rest of those felonious leaches.
RODHAM CLINTON/SALAZAR ’08!
Remarkable Recovering —
Don’t cry too much … here is a towel. I no it has been tough on you Republicans over the past several years, but if you would have been a better listener, you might have realized the wisdom from the democratic party and joined the ideas of DEMOCRACY and the ideas of following the US Constitution. You’ll figure it out eventually … the Democratic Party is truthful, where the limbaughs of the world speak with forks.
Now you’re making me laugh. 🙂
Evolution?
Oh – you must be talking about Mrs. Clinton’s ‘evolution’ from socialist to “moderate Democrat” (ROFL at the oxymoron there) because she’s got a reelection to consider.
Not to mention her ’08 ambitions. LOL
Remarkable —
I’m not you’re buddy. You’re way off base. I’m a democrat–seeks truth.
ROFL
Again, full of funny stuff. Keep it coming, it’s great.
Limbaugh? Who? What? Nice cohesion there, bud.
Funny how nobody is disputing the actual content of the anti doofus, I mean anti Clinton responces from R2 and Remarkable. I did a big thumbs up to them myself.
Typical of Patriot to sidestep their facts and root for of all things, another Clinton into office. Only this time it will be a cheated on wife of a crook, looking to pretend her way into the highest office in the country. She will pretend to be a moderate but most people know she is a dyed in the wool ultra liberal. A liberal guaranteed to have an ax to grind.
Like I said before, get prepared for the taxation orgy cause it’s coming in the disguise of a (jilted) female.
Gecko —
You have no one else to blame but your stupid Republican selves. I don’t feel sorry for you, since the country can’t withstand a continuation of the current Congress or Administration. That is the fault of your party, not mine. As far as President Clinton is concerned, if you would not have made his sexual life your personal interest, then we would not be in the mess that your PARTY created. Stop blaming and stop thinking about how you might change and allow democracy to work here at home.
President Clinton is coming to Denver to give a paid speech at the annual convention of the National Apartment Association (see http://www.naahq.org/). That is the only reason he will be even here to do the Columbine and State Party fundraisers.
AuroraDem —
It really bothers me that the GOP seems to wrap themselves up in the personal decisions of individuals. I personally can’t stand the Republican Party of today … they are the most self-interested, lying, bunch of crooks I have ever seen. And it boils my blood to sit back and hear the wimpers from people like Gecko who think they are so righteous to make the sexual relationship of a President my front-page news. I could care less. And frankly, if we would “think” about what is important for our children, rather than making the issues over “sex,” then maybe we could solve some of our most urgent problems. It is a wonder how the personal choices that you or I make, or a President, and can become the single guiding light of the country. People are so uneducated about our forefathers and freedom. Ben Franklin had many girlfriends, and we rise him up on a platter, not because of his bedroom activity, but because of his strength of protecting our right of Liberty and Freedom. I don’t see the Republicans doing anything of the sort, except lying ourselves into a war that has proved as completely unnecessary. What a waste of lives, money and in the protection of the lives of our children. And what was it all for? Iraq? Oil?
Blame it all on President Clinton. I’m so sick and tired of this cop-out theme by Limbaugh freaks !!!
Okay, here’s the deal. Lets all agree to repeal the 22nd amendment to the constitution, and the Repubs can run George W again and the Dems can run Bill Clinton again in 2008.
Do I have any takers from the R side?
Bill Clinton was hardly Benjamin Franklin.
For one thing, Franklin didn’t perjure himself repeatedly under oath.
For another, Franklin really did work for liberty, where Clinton only works to line his own pockets. Whitewater and cattle futures, anyone?
The issue was not and is not “sex.” It’s about enforcing the laws, and there are laws against perjury for a reason.
Never mind that Slick Willy is almost certainly an unconvicted rapist – as the Chief Executive of the United States, he was supposed to be enforcing the laws, not breaking them repeatedly just to incompetently attempt to cover up his own shameful and illegal behavior.
So try to spin it all you want, Bill Clinton was and is a dispicable lawbreaker, and was at the time he was supposed to be setting the best example, not the worst.
I think that would actually be quite interesting.
Just remember that your boy Clinton never garnered more than 49% of the vote in either 1992 (43%) or 1996 (49%).
And with the double-wide load of baggage he’s carrying now (check the news wires for the name Wen Ho Lee, to be current) and the pardons, and the reality of “Kenny Boy” Lay, and WHEN he was making his criminal record.
Yeah, I’d like to see that.
Interesting to note that Parrot is the only one bringing Clinton’s sexual pecadillos into the mix, and then whining about it being brought up.
S.O.P. for liberals. The root word of ignorance is ‘ignore’.
So, why were all of these facts ignored by the media, the house and the senate?
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
Remarkable, cherry picking is worse than ignorance. Not only has it stolen Democracy, but it has murdered hundreds of thousdands in the last three years.
Remarkable, you must have short-term memory loss…lay of the drugs.
Here’s a qoute not from Patriot, but Gecko at the start of the thread, inciting Clinton’s personal life.
“That’s what this state needs, a visit from a two timing, lying, cheating, doofus.”
Cherry picking is the tool of the weak.
I would also like to bring up the fact that Reagan, since he death, has been turned into a Saint by the Republican Party. He was talked about more at the State assembly…which disgusted me…than any single issue of concern facing this state.
From the party that has turned away from limited government, to enforcing religious dogma upon the masses, there is no room for talk of hypocrisy.
Hey Patriot – you better stick to things you know about. But then, you wouldn’t be doing any posting. Go to the website for the Office of Management and Budget website at
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2005/
Then check out the various spreadsheets on what programs the government spends its money. You are in for a big surprise.
>He was talked about more at the State assembly…which disgusted me…than any single issue of concern facing this state.
Really? You sat there and counted the minutes?
Either that’s a lie or it’s “cherry picking.”
But didn’t you just say that “Cherry picking is the tool of the weak?”
Yes, to both questions. I should have been more clear: Chery picking, used for disinformation, is the tool of the weak.
What else can say about the assembly that would have any bearing on this discussion?
How about, the conservatives who have taken over the Republican Party do not know how to run honest elections. Or, should I lead the discussion into the theocracy vs. reality debate, which recieved it’s footing from the days of Chairman Benson who is qouted saying he knows nothing about poltiics. So what does that leave for him to know about?
What else should I interject?
So you’re telling us that over the entire legislative session, the item that was discussed the most was Ronald Reagan?
OH, PLEASE.
Talk about “disinformation.”
??? = confused.
Gecko didn’t mention “sex”. Clinton is also a well-known cheater at things as mundane as golf. But it all comes down to character. Whereas the Parrot complained about it numerous times. Cherry-picking, you might call it.
Oooh – and look! An article from that vanguard of politics and truth, ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE.
Hysterical.
As for the Colorado GOP invoking the name of President Reagan, I find it refreshing. At least they have someone they can look back on with a sincere appreciation and fondness. Who are the Democrats going to look back to? Harry Truman? He’d be a GOPer these days. Even JFK was a tax-cutting, pro-business POTUS.
Well, you didn’t really think that Billy Jeff was going to visit Colorado without being PAID now, did you? And to think he had the Columbine Memorial kick-off postponed from last month. But he really care$ about people, he really doe$.
I wonder what that Apartment Association gig pays? Ah, well, good for him, he’s making the big bucks on the speaking circuit. You gotta do something for income. Can’t practice much law after you’ve been disbarred now, can you?
Holy —
Explain it for me. Budget.
Revenues: $2.119 trillion
expenditures: $2.466 trillion; including capital expenditures of $N/A (2005 est.)
Military … $518.1 billion, which does not include the estimate of other related costs, like in industry handouts, reseach, design, NASA (not to pick on those guys), and so many others. I have heard the estimate is about double of this figure, 50%.
As I do the math in my brain, we’re spending more than 25% of our BUDGET on the military and it is growing. I understand that we are now pressed to continue our war against Iraq, but what would have been the result if we would have listened to Hans Blix and our inspectors, providing the truth that Saddam was not a threat anymore. And if you’re going to use the guise of 911, in connection to Saddam, we both know that NO connection has been found.
My point remains on the side of “the dollar” cost of war, (lets not forget the human costs here), versus utilizing other means, with a protection of our borders here at home, with the help of our allies around the world, and the utilization of education.
But then again, we already know we’re “adicted to OIL” … so we have no other alternative? Admit it, it has been pathetic, we have had peaceful alternatives, but have ignored them.
Gecko —
You can’t suggest that the democratic thoughts about the war in Iraq has not been a benefical one in bringing about a negotiated peace. If Iran does step away from the nuclear issue, and accepts an economic positve direction, then it provides more weight in the argument that the ultization of only war does not offer the solutions necessary in the region.
How different IS the soft approach … the democratic viewpoint?
US adopts ‘soft power’ with Iran
By Roger Hardy
Middle East analyst, BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5048136.stm
In a significant shift of policy, the United States is offering to join Europe in talks with Iran on its nuclear programme, if Tehran suspends enrichment of uranium.
One way to understand the shift is to compare its handling of Iran in President Bush’s second term with its approach to Iraq in his first.
Then it alienated allies and its resort to the United Nations was half-hearted.
There was a widespread feeling Washington was bent on war, regardless of the extent of international opposition.
Now the Americans are bogged down in Iraq and most experts think that, far from helping defeat al-Qaeda and Islamic extremism, the war has served to fuel the “global jihad”.
This has led to a change of approach.
Blunt instrument
In President Bush’s second term, with Condoleezza Rice at the helm in the State Department, pragmatism has made a comeback.
If the first term was dominated by “hard power”, now “soft power” is back in fashion.
Quixote,
I was not talking about the General Assembly. “OH PLEASE,” is right. I was referring State Party Assembly in Colorado Springs a few weeks back.
Im sick of the disinformation as well. If the “teflon President” had not deregulated the airways to allow pundits like O”Relliy, Rush, Savage and Hannity to disinform the publice, perhaps the American people would not have believed Saddam was responsible for 9/11 or that duck-tape was a good defense against bio-terrorism.
Speaking of disinformation….
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Hello everyone. I’m a first time visiter and poster, and I’m very pleased to find a Colorado-based forum to discuss politics. I’ve spent a lot of time on Newsvine (http://www.newsvine.com), and I’m encouraged by what they have accomplished in terms of sparking legitimate, cogent debate using current events and the web as a medium.
As a transplanted Coloradan (originally a New Yorker), I find Colorado’s political landscape fascinating. Any state where Focus on the Family and the first citywide initiative to legalize marijuana can coexist counts as interesting in my book.
So, I’m looking forward to rational, civic-minded, and thoughtful debate on today’s issues. I don’t have many kind things to say about partisan zealots, grudge-minded pundits, or, in other words, people who don’t respect others opinions. But hey, this is the web, and if the wackjobs of the world have ever had an equal opportunity medium this is it.
That’s all for now. Happy posting.
Mr. Fu
Mr. Fu,
Nice to chat with you … even though we’re not conformists to the “mind control” authoritarians of the Republican Party. Oops, can I say that over the web? Oops, this is America, right?
Ok. Mr. Fu, like your name by the way … cutting right through the garbage, getting down to the point. My horrendous ounce of truth this morning is on this anti-gay marriage stuff. Well, for me, I’m not a gay person … but I don’t hold it against people to make their own decisions… indeed, I thought that was what America stood for in the first place, that is until government money got all mixed up with the churches and they started playing politics with us controled Communists. Ops, can I say that? Ouch, I may be in trouble, since I just watched President Bush talking about going after reporters for saying anything that is not of his design.
YES SIR!!! WHATEVER YOU SAY MR. PRESIDENT !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, I’m looking forward to rational, civic-minded, and thoughtful debate on today’s issues.
It is entirely possible that you will be disappointed, I fear.
As has just been evidenced by “Patriot”…………..but it will be an interesting exercise in observation of the baseless ad hominem attack.
Socrates —
My point is this, the debate over gay marriage and the manner in which each of us choose to live … either, in a belief in God or not, is a personal choice. When government starts aiming to control our minds, it is against the ideas of freedom and democracy. I’m a Patriot. I stand on the side of our US Constitution. When we start messing around with the US Constitution, with what our brilliant forefather’s designed, then you’re headed down a rough ugly terrrrrrrrrible slope.
Freewill is a very important theme in most religion, a great number of churches say they respect a persons decision. Well, I think government should also do the same. However, outisde of government, society can and does have “thoughts” and “impressions” based upon “where they went to school, who they work for … etc. The minute we start creating this objective to have government “making all those decisions, rating us like a poll, then we lose our freedom and right of self expression.
Leave the US Constitution alone. Forced thinking stinks all the way to heaven … they say.
Sen. Allard
Please save us from the gay terrorist Mexican flag burners and give the rich a religious tax cut. Hell, pay the rich our tax dollars, just for being rich.
Amen
You should have been more clear in your initial statement, then, “???.”
Oh I forgot Senator Allard, please also save us from the high health care costs caused by those frivolous malpractice lawsuits on our poor god like doctors who are only trying to make a living. Those darn lawsuits that make up less than 1/4 of 1% of health care cost. Please Senator Allard ignore the 10 cents of every 1-dollar that is paid out of Medicaid in provider fraud, Costing Coloradans $220 million in good hard earned tax dollars. Hell, give them doctors a tax cut for being god like.
Amen
Amazing to see how much energy Bill Clinton still stirs up – pro and con – 6 years after he’s left office. Somehow I doubt George W. Bush will compare.
Bill Clinton’s here for the “National Apartment Association”? What the heck is that? And will there be fervent protest by the pro-condominium crowd?
I was hoping he’d be in town for a Holtzman fund-raiser.
PS: Looks like Sir Robin’s was just a little bit longer than Remarkable’s. And slightly curved to one side.
Tancredo Watch…………..ROFLMAOPIMP
Fascinating how frantically angry they become with even the least criticism of Mr. Clinton, who will almost certainly be judged by history to be one of the worst of presidents.
They become almost apoplectic. I sometimes wonder if they are verging upon heart attacks.
Socrates…..
One can only hope that the mere sight of Pres. Clinton sends them over the edge. Apoplectic is precisely the word to describe their reaction. Like Pavlov’s dog, only less intelligent.
Or like Ann Coulter coming across a 9/11 widow! Thanks, Ann……your gave Sen. Rodham Clinton her message for this week in her (announced) Senate re-election campaign as well as in her (unannounced) presidential campaign.