Monday Open Thread

“Our major obligation is not to mistake slogans for solutions.”

–Edward R. Murrow


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  1. MADCO says:

    Trump swearing upsets evangelicals enough they may sit out the next election.. (But not the infidelities, divorces, racism, )  

    Another former WH counsel goes on trial for work he did in on behalf of Russia.

    Elections matter but I still sense apathy and a casual conviction that no way Trump can win. Again.


  2. Diogenesdemar says:

    Bu, bu, but  — We’re all full, now . . . 


    . . . of ignorant racists and xenophobes.


    Open Borders Made America Great

    In other words, my great-grandfather was an undocumented immigrant. And, if your parents, or grandparents, or great-grandparents immigrated to the United States before 1924—when xenophobic panic about Southern and Eastern Europeans spurred the first truly restrictive laws for white migrants—they were undocumented, too.




    • Duke CoxDuke Cox says:

      As I mentioned before, I should be conflicted, with ancestors on both sides. My sympathies lie, pretty consistently, with the native bunch. The English were pretty greedy and ruthless, and were instrumental in bringing white privilege  to this continent.

      While I have the floor, allow me to say a word about that. I am likely being hypersensitive about it, but I am very resentful when history is misrepresented by white people. Particularly for profit. Even more particularly by an oil and gas company.

      To wit:

      Chevron has been running an ad touting their impact on local jobs by highlighting a young man who learns on the job and supports his community. There is plenty wrong with that part, but the part that really ties my breechclothe in a knot is the family tree that shows 5 generations of the young mans' family. The announcer then says, "Beaus' family has been here, like, forever!"

      Let that soak in for a minute.

      No…they took that land from those who had been there " like, forever."

      Let's keep that clear.


      • Diogenesdemar says:

        The same as it ever was . . .

        . . . if you were surprised by, or if you think that, those Mississippi ICE raids last week on a Koch facility didn’t occur without corporate acquiescence, approval, and in the service of some greater Kochish agenda . . .

        . . . well, then, you probably just haven’t thought about it, huh?


        • RepealAndReplace says:

          Not the same Koch business.

          Unless there is some type of hidden ties between them. Alex Jones, what say you? Are there ties between Koch Foods and the Brothers Koch? Maybe the Q people can sniff something out.

          • Diogenesdemar says:

            Yeah, jeez . . . 

            . . . OK, so first of all, I’ll admit I didn’t know that, so thanks; you’re swell.

            I should probably point out that it might take some kind of snarky prick (. . . and I know, ‘cuz I are one . . . ) to blinderdly parse, but to not notice, that the same point about “corporate” control of these matters might remain valid, regardless of the vast indifferences between billionaire owners (notwithstanding an unshared heredity)??

            My one other response here is (since I never did say it was the same kochs), therefore, that same hearty F U I’d have for the whole homonymous family, your friend Alex Jones, or any of the Qs . . .


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        • itlduso says:

          E Verify.  I still have $100 to the first candidate who mentions E Verify.

    • JohnInDenverJohnInDenver says:

      Your time sense is slipping …

      WAPO fact checker points out that on August 5, "In 928 days, President Trump has made 12,019 false or misleading claims"

      The more important count:   449 Days Until General Election


  3. PseudonymousPseudonymous says:

    Can you imagine Bernie dropping even one of these?  He's senile!  Get him out!  Dems would be on cable news 24/7.

  4. ParkHill says:

    Climate Change WOTD from David Roberts at Vox: "Electric vehicles can reduce the Colorado’s Carbon emissions more than anything else."

    David Roberts has been providing high quality, consistent reporting on reducing Carbon emissions. This article is a comparison between two Carbon reduction strategies modeled in Colorado: 

    (1) Converting to Clean energy. Wind and Solar PV is expanded, Coal is eliminated, but Natural Gas electrical generation fills-in as needed.

    (2) Clean energy + 100% Electric Vehicles. Assumes smart grid for scheduling EV charging demand.

    Going 100% EV has some great benefits for Colorado:

    (1) The average driver will save $600/year in fuel – Electric fuel is cheaper than gas. Also, electric cars should cost less than gas-hogs within about 4 years.

    (2) 100% EV reduces carbon emissions by 42% between 2018 and 2040, providing a larger reduction than de-carbonizing 100% of Electrical Generation.

    • harrydobyharrydoby says:

      Don't forget that with no more oil changes, there is less toxic waste, not to mention less demand for processed dinosaur poop.  And not having to change oil, flush radiators, replace spark plugs, hoses, valves, cam chains, catalytic converters, (most EVs don’t even have transmissions), etc, the cost of ownership drops dramatically

      A cost-benefit analysis by the state Air Pollution Control Division estimated that over the lifetime of an electric vehicle, the maintenance and repair costs are about one-third to one-half less than a conventional vehicle. 

      And in case you are thinking “What about those dead batteries?”

      “A lithium-ion battery actually never dies,” said Hans Eric Melin, founder of London-based Circular Energy Storage Research and Consulting. “It’s just like you can take an alkaline battery out of your flashlight and put it into a remote control, and it’ll still be good enough.”

      By 2025, about three-quarters of spent EV batteries will be reused and then recycled to harvest raw materials, Melin said. That means automakers and battery producers such as China’s Contemporary Amperex Technology Ltd. can profit from the same pack several times.

    • MADCO says:

      What about all the cancer caused by the wind turbines?

      and when we we run out of sun light cause the solar panels are sucking it all up?


  5. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    Government is so inpet when it comes to technology – Clever Vanity License Plate Backfires On Man, Winds Up With Tons Of Tickets

    Droogie contacted the DMV who told him to change his plate. He refused because he didn't do anything wrong. While they wiped the fines off his record, unfortunately for him, they didn't fix the problem in the system so once again, Droogie has accrued another $6,000 in tickets that he had nothing to do with. He says he won't be paying those either.

    • RepealAndReplace says:

      Not just when it comes to technology. Remember, ICE employees work for the government and from their own twisted perspective, believe they are there "to help."


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