Tuesday Open Thread

“A deadly sins addendum is long overdue.”

–P. J. O’Rourke

23 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. JohnInDenver says:

    Uh … things aren't going well when the Washington Post has this:

    Top advisers leave Hickenlooper’s struggling 2020 campaign

    Campaign manager Brad Komar and national finance director Dan Sorenson have left the campaign. Spokeswoman Lauren Hitt confirmed their departures and said she, too, will exit the campaign in the coming weeks.

    The departures come after the close of the second quarter of campaign fundraising.


  2. MADCO says:

    Why were the Arizona taxpayers subsidizing Nike anyway?

    • Voyageur says:

      I hope they have some of those Sherman Fireflies with the 17 pounder British gun!

      And maybe an M3 Grant with the gun in the right sponson.
      Up to date with his armor, Trump is!

  3. Mr. L. Prosser says:

    Congratulations to Pete Kolbenschlag . The Appeals Court dismissed an appeal from a Texas energy company who sued PK for libel in 2017. PK and his attorneys can now collect their legal fees from the company.

  4. mamajama55 says:

    The "Recall Pettersen" movement seems to be going nowhere fast. Nancy Pallozzi  (Not-Pelosi) facebook page has nothing recall -related on it. The link to the recall group doesn't work. The Secretary of State shows no active recall petitions.

    But….the opposition is geared up. Perlmutter, Pettersen, and various local progressives are coordinating a canvass and mailing effort for Pettersen to tell her story and pre-empt any vicious narratives coming at her.

    • unnamed says:

      It probably doesn't help that Not-Pelosi ran against her before and got steamrolled.  The opposition can call Not-Pelosi a sore loser, and they have done so.

  5. mamajama55 says:

    More campaign finance weirdness from the Total Recall fanatics:

    The Tom Sullivan recall group just filed a July 1 campaign finance report on the Secretary of State's site. Zero Zip Nada to report. No contributions, no expenditures.

    Now my little facebook friends showed that Brenda Stokes, the Arapahoe GOP chair, had petitions printed. She had them available at her business address. Presumably, there was supporting literature.

    And Brenda's "Decide Colorado " store made money supporting the recall. Still has that sweet recall swag to sell.

    Kristi Burton Brown, the Colorado GOP Vice Chair, is also the registered agent for "Colorado Moms Who Care". The "Moms" got $32,000 from the Neville's Values First Colorado PAC in 2018.  Burton- Brown started  the Sullivan recall. Shouldn't the Sullivan recall be showing some contributions from the "Moms"? How about from the Republican party, since both Brown and Stokes were party officials who volunteered their time for the recall.

    Was this all in-kind donations? Don't those all have to be reported? How do you run a recall campaign for a month on no money? Where are RMGO’s contributions? What about Values First Colorado? Recall Colorado?

    What makes them think they can get away with this?

    Where is that darn “Campaign Integrity Watchdog” when you need him? Oh yeah, that’s right….he started working for the Nevilles.

    • JohnInDenver says:

      So, who can point out some apparent discrepancies and then act on them?  Sec of State?  AG?  Private citizens like MJ? 


      • mamajama55 says:

        Unfortunately, Colorado Ethics Watch (CEW) closed down in 2017. We don't even know what we're missing.

        My understanding of the process to complain about possible campaign finance violations now is that the responsibility to complain and follow up is on the private citizen. And this particular private citizen can't afford any ginormous lawyer fees to initiate anything.

        I'll look at what the CFOIC has to inform citizens about complaints against public officials. (but not campaigns)

        Matt Arnold of Campaign Integrity Watchdog (CIW) always was  very partisan about which officials he targeted. He preferred to go after Democrats and Republicans who didn't adhere to his particular libertarian wing of the party. And now, Arnold is the registered agent for Values First Colorado, the Neville's self-dealing behemoth consortium of right wing causes. Guns, schools, immigration, whatever – Neville has a PAC for that, and millions to do it with.

        So without CEW and CIW, citizens with complaints have to rely on Democrats that we elected in 2018.

        There is a place on the Sec State's office website to complain and suggest – and I have done that, and actually got a reply back, although it wasn't the answer I had hoped for. (I thought that petitioners for recall campaigns should have to disclose the contact info for the company in charge – but apparently, that's only for ballot initiative petitions).

        What gives me a little hope is that Jena Griswold is the Sec of state, is committed to transparency, and is hanging in there reforming the Gessler/ Williams swamp.

        Other than that, we are apparently on our own.

  6. Pseudonymous says:

  7. Powerful Pear says:

    Someone please tell Duke that Trump’s plans to use tanks in a parade is just a rehearsal for 2020 or 2024. Trump is not going to leave the Presidency. Therefore it is important that a team lead by Duke go to Washington and stand in front of the tanks to protest. It must be done……by Duke.

    • unnamed says:

      Why don't you tell him that yourself?

      • Conserv. Head Banger says:

        I believe it's a "team led by Duke." If one is going to criticize a fellow Pols-ter, at least spell it right.

        • unnamed says:

          Banger, go easy.  MAGAts love their shitgibbon so much that they have to imitate him.  Right down to writing incorrect words.

          Their hero is the same guy that recently gave us "Cocked and Loaded" when discussing near-war with Iran, after all.

          • RepealAndReplace says:


          • The realist says:


            My new theory: I believe that #TrumpsterFire's sycophants and supporters subscribe to a version of the infinite monkey theorem.

            The original theorem is that a thousand monkeys working at a thousand typewriters hitting random keys for an infinite amount of time will ultimately type any given known text, such as the works of Shakespeare.

            In Trump's case, the forever hopeful supporters believe that if Trump continues to spew nonsense on a daily basis, eventually it will all make sense.

            • Duke Cox says:

              I think you are on to something.

              Powerful Pear is a pretty good case study in observing and trying to understand how otherwise functional humans can be so unrelentingly stupid. He doesn't address me directly because I am neither intimidated by his aggressiveness, nor daunted by his density.

              Pear and the rest of T***p faithful set new standards for denial…their blinders are tightening…their eyes are filled with tweets.

              Thinking is not something they enjoy. They prefer to resent, despise, and covet. T***plicans seem to have a common denominator…they hate some group or institution who they feel have wronged them…they are a vengeful lot.

              T***licans are cowards….just like their idol…

              They are afraid…pity them……

              😆  Hahahahahahaha…just kidding.


              • Conserv. Head Banger says:

                MAGA !!!!!!!!!!

                (in the fine print: Moscow Agent Governing America). I have yet to see any Trump supporter give coherent answers to the questions: why did Trump grovel and bow before Putin in Helsinki a year ago? How come Trump never criticizes Putin? How come Trump either ignores sanctions on Russia or tries to soften them?

  8. Davie says:

    Paul Krugman discusses "The Moochers of Middle America".  No surprises here — Red states are the biggest welfare queens of all time.

    Richer states subsidize poorer states. And the reasons are clear: Rich states pay much more per person in federal taxes, while actually getting a bit less in federal spending, because Medicaid and other “means-tested” programs go disproportionately to those with low incomes. But the magnitudes are startling.

    Take the case of Kentucky. In 2017, the state received $40 billion more from the federal government than it paid in taxes. That’s about one-fifth of the state’s G.D.P.; if Kentucky were a country, we’d say that it was receiving foreign aid on an almost inconceivable scale.

    So if you really believe that Americans with higher incomes shouldn’t pay for benefits provided to those with lower incomes, you should be calling on “donor” states like New Jersey and New York to cut off places like Kentucky and let their economies collapse. And if that’s what you mean, you should let Mitch McConnell’s constituents know about it.

    Naturally, the most corrupt and self-dealing Senator and his Cabinet Secretary wife are taking 3 scoops for themselves.  (Yes, The Onion is satire, but it's closest to the truth in this case)

  9. mamajama55 says:

    Let your ct flags fly – why did mike pence cancel his New Hampshire visit for an “emergency meeting” with the trumpsta?

    A. DJT found out that the Dems will go to court to get his tax returns, and melted down into a steaming orange puddle that looked like…. oh, never mind.

    B. The Iranians called Trumpty’s bluff and increased their uranium stockpiles. (True story)

    C E Jean Carroll’s black coat dress came back positive for Trumpstink. That shit lingers.

    D The 6th hamberder got stuck somewhere in the innards and had to be surgically removed.

    E.  It had something to do with Putin and the submarine fire in which 14 sailors died.

    F. The inspector generals report on horrific conditions in the concentration camps on the border came out today, with photos and video, and its gonna be tough to splain how this will MAGA. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R5I1ozk3km4

    • The realist says:

      So many good theories – but I choose option A, with a close second by E. We know the only thing he cares about is himself. I'm convinced he had a serious meltdown earlier today. Perhaps Pence and the Cabinet took a serious look at A25 – or at least threatened Trump with it to get him to stop screaming and crying.

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