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May 24, 2006 08:00 AM UTC
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Dead on. There is so much more to democracy than stacking a caucus.
The bad behavior on the part of Martinez etal may end up helping Holtzman in the primary.
The crowd telling Holtzman to get OUT is the same crowd of machine politicians who told Ed “Token” Jones to get IN when he got his butt kicked at the SD 11 assembly a few years ago.
Which tells you an awful lot about how Trailhead money has so thoroughly corrupted the Republican Party. Whatever Trailhead wants, Trailhead gets.
yeah, but BB was a viable candidate. MH is the laughingstock of conservatives. Stick by your guns BM!
not only was he viable but he received enough votes at the assembly to be on the primary ballot – which MH didn’t do.
It must be easy being in the GOP where there is NO thought required. You just follow along with the rest of the crowd and walk off whatever cliff you are ordered to go over.
This is democracy folks! Let it take its course instead of relying on the caucus system- the ULTIMATE insiders game….
That’s phunny stuff, Phil.
Martinez should step down!
I’m sure the Denver Post editorial board’s notoriously liberal slant had nothing to do with the publication of an editorial that is critical of both the state Republican chairman and a credible challenger (in Beauprez) to Ritter.
Certainly no one on the Democratic side called for Mike Miles to get out of the Senate race against Salazar in 2004.
You folks need to leave the echo chamber a little more often. It is permissible for both parties to look out for their best interests in state politics; that includes the state chair.
>>>Certainly no one on the Democratic side called for Mike Miles to get out of the Senate race against Salazar in 2004.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
You’re kidding, right?
Miles was being told that all the time, I grant you, not publically by the Party Chairman, but nonetheless, the message was sent to him very clearly, indeed.
Quixote is right – any Democrat who weighs in on this with “we’d never do anything like this” is full of it!
But if the Republicans pick BB merely because, as Dtrain says, he’s a more “viable candidate,” they’d be making the same mistake as when they chose Pete Coors – a soulless guy – over Bob Schaffer, a geekish looking fellow like Holtzman, but also a guy with ideas and integrity.
BB is Pete Coors Lite.
The Post made some interesting points, especially about candidates who lost at the state assembly but who then went on to win the primary. On the Dem side: Salazar vs. Miles. On the GOP side: Coors vs. Schaffer. My favorite: Bob Beauprez vs. Rick O’Donnell in the 2002 CD-7 primary.
That’s right. In the 2002 CD-7 race, Bob Beauprez lost to Rick O’Donnell at the assembly. Did Beauprez do then what he now demands of Marc Holtzman? Nope. He wants it both ways.
Run Marc, run. Don’t listen to groveling incompetents like Bob Martinez. And don’t listen to the limp-wristed back stabbers who are afraid of their own shadow.
Shouldn’t ‘a’ done it Bob.
Yeah, Quixote, the comment was sarcastic. That was my point about Miles, the Democratic party, including people very high up, told him to get out in 2004.
I didn’t think I’d have to be quite so didactic, but the point was that the Democrats do the exact same thing; the liberal folks on here are just making political hay of the whole Martinez thing. It is a bit hypocritical.
“Beauprez lost to O’Donnell”– Glad to see the Holtzman campaign staff isn’t too busy preventing photography at public events to post on here. “Limp wristed back-stabbers afraid of their own shadow?” Rep. Beauprez isn’t the one censoring public events. I guess when your campaign is marked by one gaffe after another, all you can do is post talking points on this website.
As someone else astutely noted earlier, Rep. Beauprez got enough support to make the ballot in 2002; Holtzman did not achieve this. Moreover, Rep. Beauprez did not the politics of personal destruction against his primary opponents in 2002.
Holtzman is a good man, but the people working for him like Mr./Ms. “Beauprez lost to O’Donnell” leave something to be desired.
Ah, quixote, a little history lesson might be in order here.
Yep, the Dems did it, too. And then we, the pissed off electorate, decided to teach the State Party a little lesson on how to behave properly and threw out the Chair, Chris Gates, at the first opportunity.
So, as a Democrat, I do believe I will weigh in on this one.
You might take a lesson from our side and consider doing the same to BM. Cleaning house can be very refreshing.
Angler – It’s puzzling you would defend Beauprez’s hypocritical behavior in 2002 by falsely claiming that Marc has somehow not followed all the rules. As the party establishment is fully aware, there are two equally lawful and valid ways for a candidate participating in the assembly to get onto the primary ballot: (1) getting 10% at the assembly and providing sufficient petitions, or, (2) getting 30% or more at the assembly. Either path is fully legal, valid, and honorable. If Marc has the 20,000 signatures, he has fully and lawfully met all requirements for the primary.
Beauprez is not a good man. He has attacked fellow Republicans using every underhanded trick imaginable in his forlorn hope of keeping Republican primary voters from voting. The lawsuit, and the shrill letter from the 39 limp-wristed back stabbers calling for Marc to quit a race he is fully entitled to run in, are but the latest examples.
Doesn’t the Beauprez camp have any issues to run on?
With the 5th Congressional being so contested, the voter turnout will be higher than in normal off election years in El Paso County.
35 to 40 percent of the votes in the state could come from El Paso County.
Even with all of the intimidation of his supporters from the Beauprez side, Marc Holtzman received more than 30 percent of the delegate vote in El Paso County, right in the back yard of Chuck Boerman.
Is Larry Liston going to be able to insult the voters like he tried to do to all the Holtzman supporters. If there was ever a poor excuse of a State Representative, Liston’s am embarrassment.
The Backroom Political tactics employed by the Bb Camp and Mr. martinez will only lead to their downfall. there are enough people pissed at the Bb Camp for this begging, and pleading, that many have switched and signed on with Holtzman. Afterall, he couldn’t have done it without some help from the Bb people.
The point to be made is this. When the party got involved, Republican Headquarters lost all credibility. That is not going over very well.
Wonder what th chances of getting a job, or keepint their job will be for a few select people in a Holtzman administration. Slim to NOT ON YOUR LIFE. I doubt Holtzman will forget what others have done to him. He may forgive, but he won’t forget. Neither will his supporters.
Ya, Pike. Wonder if Mr. Lipton remembers the No New Taxes Pledge he signed and hoped would go into non-existence? Same with BB? Wonder how they will handle that piece? I supported NO NEW TAXES before I VOTED FOR NEW TAXES and SPENDING?
That stuff won’t sell well in El Paso County. Even with Douglas Bruce supporting BB. Word is he has stepped in it with his supporters. Rumor is that they are working harder than before for Holtzman. Imagine that, Bill Owens, bob Beauprez, Larry Liston, and Douglas Bruce all wearing the same T-shirt? Now that is down right ugly. Something wrong with that picture.
Maybe BB promised Doug a job (if he’s elected)? Director of what who knows?
Do the Math: Add all of the people in El Paso County who do not like Douglas Bruce together with all of the people who do not like Bob Beauprez, together with all of the people who like Holtzman, and this guys all but won. Oh, almost forgot. All of the people who normally like Douglas Bruce but are now disappointed with his selling out to the establishment boys and there you are.
There a couple of ways to cause reform. One is from the inside and working with people, earning their trust, and leading them towards a great vision. Another way is to attack from the outside, criticize, condemn, and complain about the establishment and try to build a new coalition for change. The interesting thing about MH is that he is not a true outsider. He is part of the Republican establishment – he ran successful campaign for Ronald Reagan’s presidency in Pennsylvania. He ran for office in Pennsylvania (lost). He was appointed by Owens (again establishment) to be Colorado Technology Secretary (Owens does not support his run). He claims his Colorado precinct chairperson credential (funny how he uses that and yet won’t listen when he did not get 30% or better).
So again MH is disingenuous in his presentation of being an outsider of himself his spin (lies) calls into question his integrity and quality.
Again, Again, Again, we are not talking about the difference between a conservative and a liberal. Bob Beauprez has proven in elections here in Colorado that he can move our party and bring other people in. Marc is that annoying barking dog who cannot bring people in.
I understand that people have issues with the Republican Party. MH’s methods of deceit and divisiveness are not going to bring healing and reform to our party. It would have been much better for Marc to have worked with people instead of against them.
Let’s have a moment of truth. Before the convention I did not hear any negativity from BB (I am talking about personally at the events where I went and met him and asked him direct questions about Marc – he was a gentleman and refused to bite). Marc and Lola did call me after I had e-mailed them with some questions (all Lola could do was criticize, condemn, and complain about BB) She did an awful job stumping for Marc at the Boulder County Republican convention. Again it was about negativity and spin and not about a positive vision and substance. I was never invited to one of their events nor had a chance to meet MH in people’s home like BB’s people did.
Gathering up a coalition of angry people at the Republican Party I believe will not be a successful strategy to win the contest come November. It will be interesting to see how many Dems are sending money to the MH camp. Again, they are laughing at us and are already celebrating. What do you MH people not understand about that?
Oh come on. Does anyone really care what the Post thinks?
[…] GOP Chair Bob Martinez finally spoke up about his decision to publicly call on Marc Holtzman toВ giveВ upВ his gubernatorial campaign, though it didn’t make him sound any better. From The Denver Post: Martinez acknowledged that party chairmen rarely insert themselves publicly into primary debates but said that after the state assembly Saturday, all he saw was “blackness.” […]
“Beauprez lost to O’Donnel”- Allow me to clarify. I never said that Holtzman was doing anything impropoer or illegal by petitioning onto the ballot; I am fully aware that this is a valid option for a candidate to get his/her name on the ballot.
My point was simply that in the interest of a strong, vibrant state party, Mr. Martinez has good reason to call for Holtzman’s withdrawal. The fact that Beauprez did not have to petition onto the ballot in 2002 (out of a more crowded field than this year’s gubernatorial race, by the way) shows that he was a more viable candidate then. Holtzman has been courting delegates longer than anyone and he was solidly trounced at the convention. These issues all speak to his viability (or lack thereof).
As state chairman, Mr. Martinez is acting within the scope of his duty in advocating what he believes to be the best course of action for the party as a whole, which includes withdrawal of a divisive, non-viable candidate from a statewide race.
Moreover, just as Holtzman is entitled to run in the race, people are entitled to call on him to quit the race for the good of the party. This is not some monumental affront to democracy or violation of Holtzman’s rights as you would characterize it.
Again, Holtzman is a good man. You, “Beauprez lost to O’Donnell,” are one of the reasons why Holtzman is not a viable candidate. Personal insults, red-faced accusations, and general rudeness do not endear you to Republican primary voters or anyone else. Your angry rhetoric is tired and ineffective.
Angler: If you’re a Republican, you appear to be ignorant of the duties of the party officers, including the chairman. Perhaps this excerpt from the party bylaws will help inform you:
Bylaws of the Colorado Republican State Central Committee
Article III: Policy
Section C. Pre-Primary Neutrality.
“No candidate for any designation or nomination for public office shall be endorsed, supported, or opposed by the CRC acting as an entity or by it’s officers or committees, before the Primary, unless such candidate is unopposed in the primary.”
Bob Martinez clearly violated his duties by publicly demanding that Marc quit. Your uninformed rhetoric is silly.
Posted by Beauprez lost to ODonnell, if you are sticking to the letter of the law then let me point out that when Martinez asked for HM to support Beauprez – MH was not on the Primary ballot – he lost his automatic chance when he did not get the 30% votes at State – this has been pointed out many times – Once the Secretary of State certifies the petition for MH then he will be officially a candidate on the ballot in August- so it is your misunderstanding.
Martinez was clearly not disobeying the bi-laws – he had every right to ask MH to be a gentleman and back the overwhelming pick by the party at the state convention especially after such a poor showing, leaving early, and MH’s political games. He also stated that if MH filed to petition on the ballot for August (MH did so Thursday) then he would back off.
I seem to recall a few weeks ago, BM and State Party were making fundraising calls on Bob Beauprez’s behalf via a certain telemarketing firm the name of which I shall not mention. When they were called out, all of the BB shills and state party hacks had an absolute fit and called the thing an isolated incident and said that Holtzman was being crazy and paranoid to EVER imagine the state party would take sides in the primary.
It’s puzzling that the best Bob Martinez’s few apologists can do is to spin absurd legalisms.
Bob Martinez was caught red-handed violating the Party bylaws on neutrality. The rule in question states that Party officers shall not support, endorse, nor oppose any candidate before the primary. The primary is in August. This is May. May is before August.
Some apologists claim that party officers are free to ignore the rules once the assembly rolls around. That claim is clearly false. The truth is that the assembly is only one of many pathways – all equally legal and valid – that candidates can take advantage of to enter the primary. The assembly is not the deciding event. Candidates are free to petition on to the primary after the assembly.
Those are the rules. Marc Holtzman followed the rules. Bob Martinez ignored the rules. He has discredited himself should resign for the good of the party.
Apologists such as Angler and McKenzie (or whatever adolescent schoolboys may be posing behind their handles), discredit themselves by arguing their illogical drivel.