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March 23, 2010 03:48 PM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

  • 28 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“By ‘radical,’ I understand one who goes too far; by ‘conservative,’ one who does not go far enough; by ‘reactionary,’ one who won’t go at all.”

–Woodrow Wilson

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    1. I don’t mind the tax itself, our customers are pretty price insensitive and we’re hitting our best quarter ever. The giant PITA is what we have to do to determine what part of a sale is taxable. We’ll spend more figuring it all out and administering it than the state will collect I’m guessing.

      In other words the big problem is not the tax, it’s the idiotic tax system we have with home rule cities and the do nothing leadership at DoR.

      1. There’s at least one city that recognizes that internet-based businesses are an industry unto themselves.  That city, although in serious financial trouble, recognizes they are better off with internet-based businesses than without them.

        That seems to be quite different from what Colorado thinks.

      2. .

        It’s a stealth jobs program.

        The Dem leadership is getting the private sector to hire people, without any stimulus funds or bailouts or tax increases.  

        .

  1. From Yahoo Finance article:

    A study done at Harvard University indicates that medical expenses are the biggest cause of bankruptcy, representing 62% of all personal bankruptcies. One of the interesting caveats of this study shows that 78% of filers had some form of health insurance, thus bucking the myth that medical bills affect only the uninsured.

    Memo to GOP:  Cancel your next golf outing at the country club and go out in the real world and see what it’s like, because your Book of Talking Points is fiction.  

      1. “zero-sum fallacy”?

        I honestly don’t know whether the healthcare act will increase or reduce overall costs, but I do know that your glib statement above plays on an error in logic. There is, in theory, nothing remarkable about “get(ting) all this new health care from the same health care infrasructure, at no additional cost.” That’s because the mere fact of the passage of the law means that it is not “the same health care infrastructure” in every respect. The nature of the changes determine any changes in efficiencies.

        1. Maybe on hardball, maybe somewhere else on MSNBC.

          He did his own whip count Sunday morning and figured out that Pelosi had enough votes without him and his gang.  He told someone that he had to either accept the executive order that was handed him as an olive branch, or get nothing at all, because they had the votes already.

          Of course that means that some of the Dem “No” votes got dispensations from Pelosi, because Stupak was still “controlling” 8 votes or so at the end.

  2. From Politico:

    Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin rolled out a list of Democratic members of Congress she intends to target for defeat this year, announcing that she’ll go after lawmakers who voted for health care reform and hail from districts she and Arizona Sen. John McCain won in the 2008 presidential election.

    Of the 48 Democratic members she listed, Reps John Salazar and Betsy Markey are included.

  3. “A ruling by Senate parliamentarian Alan Frumin handed Democrats a major victory Monday night, beating back a GOP push to declare a key tax proposal in the health care bill out of order.”

    “After hearing arguments on both sides, Frumin said that Democratic plans to push back an excise tax on so-called Cadillac insurance plans until 2018 was within the purview of budget rules allowable under the filibuster-proof reconciliation process. The GOP had challenged the language on the grounds that it violated a 1974 budget law because of its impact on the Social Security statute, and was thus subject to a point of order that would doom the bill in the Senate.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s

    Inform Lord Soros that our plan is on schedule. BWAHAHAHAHAH!

    1. Even more proof that our liberal Mind Control Ray is working perfectly – BWAHAHAHAHAH!

      Opinions turn favorable on health care plan

      WASHINGTON – Americans by 9 percentage points have a favorable view of the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against it.

      By 49%-40% those surveyed say it was “a good thing” rather than a bad one that Congress passed the bill. Half describe their reaction in positive terms, as “enthusiastic” or “pleased,” while about four in 10 describe it in negative ways, as “disappointed” or “angry.”

      The largest single group, 48%, calls the bill “a good first step” that should be followed by more action on health care. An additional 4% also have a favorable view, saying the bill makes the most important changes needed in the nation’s health care system.

      The findings are encouraging for the White House and congressional Democrats, who get higher ratings than congressional Republicans for their work on the issue.

      No one gets overwhelmingly positive ratings on the issue, but Obama fares the best: 46% say his work has been excellent or good; 31% call it poor. Congressional Democrats get an even split: 32% call their efforts good or excellent; 33% poor.

      The standing of congressional Republicans is more negative. While 26% rate their work on health care as good or excellent, a larger group, 34%, say it has been poor.

      http://www.usatoday.com/news/w

      So, thanks for all the “friendly” political advice there Karl Rove. It looks like the GOP is going the way of the Whigs, Bull Moose and Know-Nothing Party. BRILLIANT, I say BRILLANTLY PLAYED!

      1. hopefully this will be a trend, once all the hysteria and outright misinformation goes away.  

        Repubs not wanting this bill to pass had nothing to do with its merits or faults, it always had to do with the advantage they lose if something good happens to Americans through the work of the dems.  The corporate liars and apologists are fucked, and they deserve every bit of it.  

  4. Denver Post is reporting this evening: http://ow.ly/1qtVHU

    Cleve is letting Wiens, Buck and Norton duke it out so he can set his sights on Diana DeGette. His new campaign might be even more quixotic than his old one.

    HT Chris Hubbard

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