2018-19 #TrumpShutdown Day 25 Open Thread

“Despite the constant negative press covfefe”

–Donald Trump

20 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Pseudonymous says:

    There it is!  Looking forward to Take your blastocyst to work day.

    HB19-1103: Protect Human Life At Conception


    • Genghis says:

      If you live long enough, you'll see … well, not everything, but definitely more and increasingly preposterous things. Today I saw a couple of dumbfucks propose a criminal offense titled "Aggravated vehicular unlawful termination of pregnancy."

      This POS is destined for a quiet death in committee, but it's only a matter of time until something like this becomes law in some stump-jumping wingnut state. Place your bets on:

      1. Which stump-jumping wingnut state gets there first; and

      2. What SCOTUS will do.

    • DaftPunk says:

      80% of the Republican house caucus are sponsors (none in the senate yet.)

      The public has rejected this by huge margins at the ballot box (and only grown more blue since the last attempt.) 

      Maybe the new state GOP chair might want to work on refocusing the agenda.

    • Diogenesdemar says:

      They probably ought to introduce and get passed their “Bills Are People, Too” bill first . . . 

      . . . otherwise this renewed idiocy will never get past its first-trimester committee assignment.

    • notaskinnycook says:

      In the first state to permit terminations-1969. Oh well, I suppose they think it would be a real accomplishment if they could get this done.

  2. JohnInDenver says:

    The new Gallup poll report is out — the monthly release of their tracking poll, based on a previous week's average. Overall from January 2-10 2019, a drop of approval by 2, down to 37%, a rise of disapproval by 4, up to 59%.

    Change in Trump's Job Approval Ratings, by Political Party
    …………………Dec. 17-22….Jan. 2-10..Change %
    Republicans…. 89…………….88 …………-1
    Independents… 39…………….31 ……….. -8
    Democrats …….8 ……………. 6 ………… -2

    Independent collapse by 8 points is pretty stunning.

    I have a hard time understanding how a drop in all three cohorts, averaging 3.7%, turns into a drop of 2% overall.  Any stat pros or math whizzes want to try to explain that?

    • deathpigeon says:

      You can't just average them because Republicans, Independents, and Democrats aren't groups of equal size. Based on this the proportions are 26% R, 32% D, and 39% I. That gives us 89*.26+39*.39+8*.32 or 40.91% for the start and 88*.26+31*.39+6*.32  or 36.89% for the end. That makes the actual drop 4.02%., which is what you get from the weighted average of the individual drops.

      • JohnInDenver says:

        So, if the average you are describing is 4% … How did the Gallup folks show a drop in approval of 2%?

        If Gallup is somehow morphing to a NET change (which isn't explained), the shift isn't 4%, but 6% (approval -2 and disapproval +4) — still not covered for your calculations.

        • deathpigeon says:

          My guess is that 2% is the increase in disapproval instead of the decrease in approval because you also said that 4% is the rise in disapproval. Maybe a typographical mistake on their part.

  3. DaftPunk says:

    Covfefe should be served smocking hot, just like hamberders.

  4. davebarnes says:

    Effort launched to repeal Taxpayer’s Bill of Rights; possible ballot issue before the Title Board


    About time.
    I voted against TABOR.
    It was stupid then and is still stupid.

    • deathpigeon says:

      Hope we can get that passed.

    • Duke Cox says:

      I guess we don't agree on too much, dave….but we sure agree on that.


      • gertie97 says:

        It won't have a prayer until somebody figures out how to explain the ratchet effect in a quick sound bite.

        • Diogenesdemar says:

          Its carefully planned and intended effect is to ensure that Colorado’s 21st-century roads and infrastructure, schools and colleges, and any of our other public works needs, are all eventually starved of funding above 1930’s levels.

    • The realist says:

      Any campaign to abolish TABOR should be creatively focused. Don't get into the weeds explaining data, ratchets, and TABOR vs A23 vs Gallagher. The average voter is never going to follow you into those weeds. The only people who like playing around in those weeds are policy wonks. 

      Instead, focus the entire campaign on Doug Bruce – "It's time to end Doug Bruce's stranglehold on Colorado!" "Doug Bruce has been choking the life out of Colorado since 1992. It's time to say NO MORE!" "It's time for Coloradans to take Colorado back from Doug Bruce!" The logo would include a cartoon caricature of Bruce – lots of ways to imagine that.

      • gertie97 says:

        The average voter doesn't know who Bruce is. Never has. Doesn't give a shit. To Joe and Jane Sixpack, TABOR means they get to vote on tax increases. Period.

        • Pseudonymous says:

          For most of the people in Colorado, isn't that pretty much true?  It controls elections a little and make measures sound scary, but most (by population) local governments and special districts have debruced, or debruced as much as they care to, which means that, largely, a vote is what TABOR's about.

          Now, it's a big deal for governance, but is it a big deal (as they perceive it) for people?  Probably not.

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