2019’s First Open Thread

What could go wrong?

29 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. Voyageur says:

    From the very first seconds of this New Year, it is evident that there is a stink in Gilead.  It comes from Donald Trump.

    But there is also new hope and a fresh breeze blowing from the House of Representatives.  May it grow stronger every day, ultimately clearing the Senate of Mitchstink and freeing the White House of the Orange Stench now befouling it.

    To all the good friends and honorable adversaries on Colorado Pols may the New Year bring you prosperity, happiness, and a better record for the Denver Broncos!

  2. Conserv. Head Banger says:

    The New Year is only 9 hours old and already there is a candidate for bumper sticker of the year.

    On a backdrop of the Texas state flag: 

    I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.


  3. JohnInDenver says:

    What could go wrong?  Well, I woke up to a WAPO story of a Strategic Command tweet

    "#TimesSquare tradition rings in the #NewYear by dropping the big ball … if ever needed, we are #ready to drop something much, much bigger,” the original post read. “Watch to the end! @AFGlobalStrike @Whiteman_AFB #Deterrence #Assurance #CombatReadyForce #PeacelsOurProfession”

    The embedded video showed footage of a B-2 stealth bomber. As the words “STEALTH,” “READY” and “LETHAL” flashed across the screen, the aircraft released bombs. They fall to the ground and crash with a fiery explosion.

    The tweet was removed. The follow up tweet of apology

    Our previous NYE tweet was in poor taste & does not reflect our values. We apologize. We are dedicated to the security of America & allies.

    No comment about whether the initial tweet is now a fine symbol for the career of the person who released it.

  4. davebarnes says:

    Bigger than Colorado.

    "'General' McChrystal got fired like a dog by Obama," Trump tweeted Tuesday morning. "Last assignment a total bust. Known for big, dumb mouth. Hillary lover!"

    • Davie says:

      Bob Woodward quotes Trump’s personal attorney, John Dowd, summing up his opinion of his client:  “You’re a fucking liar”.  Basically to avoid Mueller’s “perjury trap”, he would have had to plead mental incompetence.

  5. DENependent says:

    In 538's wrap up of charts from the past year I noticed one showing what is a 100 year storm in the midwest including Colorado. The whole article is interesting with some Colorado relevant information. We are getting very slightly drier as measured by maximum stream flows. This impacts us a lot since we were already fairly dry even way back in 1917.


  6. davebarnes says:

    Dear Dumpster®,

    Do not play poker.

    “Border Security and the Wall “thing” and Shutdown is not where Nancy Pelosi wanted to start her tenure as Speaker! Let’s make a deal?,” the president said on Twitter.

  7. Davie says:

    The Christian RWNJ fringe isn’t kidding around:

    I have attended dozens of Christian nationalist conferences and events over the past two years. And while I have heard plenty of comments casting doubt on the more questionable aspects of Mr. Trump’s character, the gist of the proceedings almost always comes down to the belief that he is a miracle sent straight from heaven to bring the nation back to the Lord. I have also learned that resistance to Mr. Trump is tantamount to resistance to God.

    This isn’t the religious right we thought we knew. The Christian nationalist movement today is authoritarian, paranoid and patriarchal at its core. They aren’t fighting a culture war. They’re making a direct attack on democracy itself.

    They want it all. And in Mr. Trump, they have found a man who does not merely serve their cause, but also satisfies their craving for a certain kind of political leadership.



    • RepealAndReplace says:

      the gist of the proceedings almost always comes down to the belief that he is a miracle sent straight from heaven to bring the nation back to the Lord

      That may be shoveling the shit a little thick but there is no doubt that the religious nuts put aside their scruples and decided it was worth supporting him if only to get their anti-choice judicial appointments.

      And you know what? It's worked out fine for them.





      • notaskinnycook says:

        I'd worry a lot more if I didn't believe that as Rick Wilson said, “Everything Trump Touches Dies”.
        Their whorish hypocrisy could be the death of the right-wing religious nuts. We can hope.

      • mamajama55 says:

        There has been a religious “ left” among tribal and earth-centered religions since humans lived here, and a Christian left in this country since the earliest European migrations.

        Those churches and congregations are growing. We should not condemn all religion or all Christians because of the right-wing political practices of some sects.

        And, yes, those traditional evangelical Christian churches were wrong, and are wrong in the ways Wingfield’s article enumerates. By their works shall you know them. Slavery, lynching, homophobia, sexism, Trumpism…pretty ugly stuff.

        The religious left, in opposition to right wing Calvinistic creeds, grew from the black churches in the south that supported and grew leaders of the Civil Rights movement, from early Unitarians like Emerson and Thoreau, Alcott, Jefferson, and Douglass to Councils of Churches, interdenominational movements that supported desegregation, to CAIR, to the Nuns on the Bus, to Rev. Barber's Moral Mondays, to the many feminist and neo-pagan / earth-based religions, which trace their roots back to Native and tribal religions all over the world. The “religious left” is a rainbow spectrum of resistance, of cultural affirmation, of community and spiritual strength on the religious left.

        I'm a religious mutt – ethnically Jewish, from converted Jews who nevertheless practiced their principles of "Tikkun Olam", improving the world and helping the poor, to being raised in an Episcopal liberal congregation that supported the social justice movements of the day, to a journey through pagan and feminist and native belief systems that reject human dominion over the earth and celebrate inter-relatedness. I'm now grounded in my  Unitarian community that embraces all of these paths, and also no-deity paths of atheism, agnosticism and humanism.

        Before y'all get on my case and accuse me of preaching about a mystical Sky Daddy or Earth Mommy that you're supposed to worship, let me just pre-emptively say "No. I don't preach." You save your own soul…or not. You are free to believe as you see fit. In nothing or the flying spaghetti monster or whatever. Just please keep in mind that not all Christians, nor all religious people, are right wing evangelists.

        I do wish you all hope and strength and joy to keep on doing the work you're doing, wherever that comes from and however you express it.

        • Voyageur says:

          Sorry to rai n on your parade again, mj, but I can't let your assertion stand that there has been a "christian left" this country "as long as humans have been here."

           not even close.  Humans were here in force about 15,000 years ago.  Christianity is only 2,000 years old and only about 500 years old in this country.  

          Don't Conflate humans with Europeans.  

          • mamajama55 says:

            Read more carefully. I deliberately wrote “religious left”, and “Christian Left”, separately . Native earth centered religions were around since humans lived here. I could  have  phrased that more clearly, of course, and have edited it since.   

            The Christian Left came in around the mid 1500s with the Spaniards, and of course the “Gold, Glory and the Gospel” explorers were not leftist, but some of the missionaries were. There were communities of Franciscans who formed egalitarian communities with indigenous people, and resisted the brutality and enslavement of the conquistadors.

            I wouldn’t characterize all Native religions as left or liberal,either – the Aztecs’ theocratic monarchy certainly was not.

            The Puritans were also not a monolithic Christian migration; there were Quakers, utopian freethinkers, and later, various abolitionist Lutherans, Methodists, and what have you since those earliest European migrations to this continent.

            And there have been “crypto-Jews” and Muslims fleeing the Spanish Inquisition , emigrating to South and Central America, since the 16th century.

            I doubt that you’re ”sorry”.wink

            But thanks for your advocacy of Native spiritual thought and presence in the Americas.

      • notaskinnycook says:

        I'm smiling because I wrote the remark above before I read your link, Michael.

    • notaskinnycook says:

      It sounds to me like he's campaigning. For 2024? Won't he be awful long in the tooth by then?

      • Voyageur says:

        He'll still be younger tha n bernie.

      • JohnInDenver says:

        Lots of people speculating the new 71-year-old Senator from Utah is positioning himself to be either

         * the 2019/2020 version of Gerald Ford, a long-time politician acceptable to nearly everyone, hated by few, and just great for becoming an appointed Veep if someone, say, has to leave.


         * the 2020 "anybody but Trump" candidate to draft and support.

        I'm a touch more hesitant about that, as I recall Ann Romney's medical status.  I think it is possible he is showing what a good LDS believer he is, so that after a single term as Senator (or slightly before), he's well positioned to become a new member of the Quorum of Twelve — a post selected by the President/Senior Apostle of the LDS.

  8. MichaelBowman says:

    This is an interesting read…

    The Path to Give California 12 Senators, and Vermont Just One

    In 1995, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan declared, “Sometime in the next century the United States is going to have to address the question of apportionment in the Senate.” Perhaps that time has come. Today the voting power of a citizen in Wyoming, the smallest state in terms of population, is about 67 times that of a citizen in the largest state of California, and the disparities among the states are only increasing. The situation is untenable.


    • JohnInDenver says:

      I saw that article, too. Definitely worth reading and considering the approach. 

      I was surprised by the rationale offered for a Constitutional defense of such a move. I'm not convinced it would go through the courts now — maybe the ample rationale will be enough at some point in the future.

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