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December 31, 2018 08:11 AM UTC

New Year's Eve Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Because Trump can’t shut down the calendar.

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  1. WOTD: "If you are not paying, you are the product, not the consumer."

    My resolution is to remove as much advertising from my life as possible:
     – Subscriptions to TPM, Pandora, Netflix.
     – Avoid Youtube, Facebook, TV

    1. I'm with Pocahontas?

      it does have a ring to it.

      but I'm waiting for Klobuchar.  It's time f or a candidate who is not on medicare.

      As a number two, I am warming up to Gillibrand.

          1. I beg your pardon.

            I asked "How is Warren's DNA relevant?

            I also missed the fiasco aspect. I don't consider Trump's tweets evidence for a fiasco. Noise without content. Hater's gonna hate. Bully's gonna bully

            Where's the fiasco?

            1. If you want a pardon, beg trump for it, not me, parkhillbilly.

              Again, you're the one who brought up Warren's DNA (Dubious Native Ancestry?)

              So, you need to be the one who explains why it's relevant.

              we're waiting, hillbilly!

        2. Because she took the bait and took the "23 & Me" test. She learned nothing from Obama and the birth certificate production. (Even after he produced the birth certificate, there were some who claimed it was a forgery.)

           

    3. The underlying problem right now is how corrupt Corporate and Wealthy Oligarchs have taken over the US economy and institutions of power. The Republican Party is totally Borg'ed, but so is a segment of the Democratic Party.

      I like Elizabeth Warren because she has proven she will confront the corruption. She is smart, and laser-focussed on things that make a difference to consumers, average people and the middle class. In a sense, she's "just" trying to make capitalism work. That may be the "minimum republican position", but I can live with that on the right side, while we are working on expanding the Free Stuff (I mean, the social safety net) on the left.

      For all the republicans on this board, I'm a radical leftist who believes in Social Security, Public Education, National Health Insurance, Free Daycare, National Weather Service, Free highways, and other Socialist ideals.

      1. There ain't a lot of Republicans here, hillbilly.  But explain to our environmentalists how "free highways" can even exist.  Do fairies build them?  An army of ten thousand angels pours the asphalt?

        or do you mean "highways heavily subsidized by regressive taxes so we can pollute the air , ruin our environment and hasten the destruction of our global climate to swell the profits of Exxon and Toyota?"

        Yeah, I thought you did.

         Free highways, my ass.  Your auto-erotica is destroying our planet.

      2. I'm with you on backing Warren, for the reasons you cite. She is a great speaker, has really sound policies and the wonk chops to back them up, has a relatable background.

        For the record, it was Psuedonymous who brought up Warren's Native ancestry in this thread. Jason must have released one of his squirrels in Psuedo's backyard, and Psuedo had to do something with it.

        via GIPHY

        And V is just doing V –  I recommend not engaging.

         

        There are plenty of recovering Republicans on this board: V, R&R, CHB, R36, Bowman, probably many I don't know about.

        Like you, I beleive in 1960s Republican pragmatism and Democratic vision in regard to building public infrastructure, the New Deal, the Great Society. Warren is pragmatic and visionary like that – she would be a great president.

        1. Or perhaps AG in a post-Trump administration.  Hard to say who will ultimately have the broadest appeal this early.  If Trump causes the next Great Recession cum WWIII, who knows who might earn voters’ trust — another JFK or an old steady hand like Uncle Joe Biden?

        2. Oh, I think I'd vote for her, if you guys pick her as the nominee.  But the fiasco of her claimed ancestry is funny to me, and it's nobody's fault but her own.  I look at her policies, and think they're generally pretty tame steps toward social democracy, and those would guide my vote, but she made her DNA an issue by doing dumb stuff dumbly, and I find that worthy of mockery even in someone I'd elect.

          If she's nominated (or, perhaps, before), I expect she'll make an abject apology to the descendants of First Peoples, where she apologizes for the crass way she devalued what it means to be Native American, both through her ridiculous claim to that ancestry at Harvard, and to the subsequent idiocy of her "See!  My genes say I'm that."  She treated the heritage of a people genocided by our anscestors as a mantle she could casually don when it suited her, and that utterly disrespects the hundreds of years of oppression those people suffered (and continue to suffer) at the hands of this country.

          2. But the fiasco of her claimed ancestry is funny to me, and it's nobody's fault but her own

            It's nothing more than a side show. The people who will be troubled by it (i.e., the Birthers) were never going to vote for her from the start. I am disappointed that she took the bait.

        3. Actually, Sudafed brought up Warren's native American claims but hillbilly was the first to mention the dna testing fiasco.  Mj never quite gets it right.

      1. blush As Takei would say, “Oh, myyyyyyyyyy…..” But – Where do our female candidates fit into this hotness continuum?

        I think that's the problem…we're hot-wired to vote for the alpha male, and we're all susceptible to his charms, but haven't really figured out what an alpha female is.

        But if we go back to our tribal roots (and everyone has them if one goes back far enough), even if you're talking about the Picts, the Nubians, the Masaii, the Latins, the Aztecs, the Judah, or the Visigoths, Warren would be the tribal elder I'd trust to make sure the tribe was situated well and prospering, that the water was clean, the kids were OK, life was calm, orderly, and just.

        Not nearly as sexy as a Beto, an Obama, a Gary Hart, a Bill Clinton (I met those last two in person, and they definitely had that alpha male aura going on. They just kind of radiated sex. It can be too much of a good thing, as it was with Hart and Clinton, but it’s an asset for any (male) candidate).

  5. Happy New Years, Polsters!  I’ve been in the north country (Minnesota) with relatives. Yesterday I spent the afternoon with my 94 yo great uncle who fought at the Battle of the Bulge. He’s still in good health and even better humor; he shared many of his WWII stories. Just before we arrived he received a call from a Belgium family who has called him every Christmas since the war.  My uncle saved the life of one of their (now) deceased family members during the war. The descendants still call him every year and thank him for what he did – and to thank him for what our country did for them. 

    He just moved off his dairy farm into town; we plan to grow hemp on his farm this year to commemorate the WWII ‘Hemp for Victory’ campaign and make the oil available to veterans in Minnesota that can’t afford to buy the product.  

    Uncle Duane is unapologetically Democrat – he makes me proud every day; he’s a great reminder of what made rural America truly great. 

     

     

    3. Yay Democratic New Deal elders! We have one in Keenesburg – our "bonus mom" who watched us when mom went to work – Marie is now 101, and counting. She says "Trump is so stupid. He's just awful."

      Happy New Year, Michael!

      1. We already have a lot of capacity to extract in Colorado, given we are at least three years ahead of most states. There is a handful of new, small-scale technologies to extract these days that we’ll use on Uncle Duane’s farm. With the signing of the new Farm Bill USDA is directed to support hemp-related infrastructure projects.  2019 should be a banner year for the crop. 

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